Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I had to snip off the rest of your informative text. I enjoyed reading that. Thanks. I read another interesting article but I forgot where from: It said the Indian school education system is `perfect`, but for what it was designed for. What was it designed for? To create perfect clerks for the British raj. Time to wake up! I think you are talking about this http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_build_a_school_in_the_cloud.html -- Regards Tavish Naruka ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need help
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Saravanan Devasagayam saravanansaga...@gmail.com wrote: Dont work crontap job but thats work on terminal in ubuntu anybody help please Like others have said, more details will be needed to help you. Nevertheless, the most common problem faced is what you have listed. Users just plug in the command line as used in a terminal and the command will not work. Terminals have shell with path to search which cron does not have. Cron/Crontab needs the complete path of the executable to be mentioned in the entry. should work then. +1 Also, man 5 crontab has a plethora of working examples. I don't know if the OP has read that or not. Also, I notice that OP is not willing to share the command line in question that is *not* working for him in the crontab. In the past, I have been bitten by the character '%' in the command line. It needs to be 'escaped.' Also, cannot split the command line into multiple lines with the char '\' quote The ``sixth'' field (the rest of the line) specifies the command to be run. The entire command por‐ tion of the line, up to a newline or % character, will be executed by /bin/sh or by the shell speci‐ fied in the SHELL variable of the crontab file. Percent-signs (%) in the command, unless escaped with backslash (\), will be changed into newline characters, and all data after the first % will be sent to the command as standard input. There is no way to split a single command line onto multiple lines, like the shell's trailing \. /quote -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:27 PM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: That said, there are a few realities that are specific to India which act as deterrents or disadvantages toward entrepreneurship in India. And, at the same time, the last 5 years have demonstrated a willingness of a large number of individuals (of all ages) to attempt to develop a business away from the I'll get a job model. I find that reassuring because it indicates that slowly (even if it is more slowly than we'd like) the ability to take a chance is being built. The part from the article with which I disagree is that it tends to conclude that education is a means to an end. Education is, and mostly has been a guide - a pointer to further ways of development. Unfortunately, like all other things, it has morphed into an entity which is measured by marks on the score-card. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need help
Thank for your help I was run this command from the terminal and crontap and i was Compare the two files manually but they are different i need daily back up mysql database and weeky optimiz tablea On May 16, 2013 8:34 AM, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Saravanan Devasagayam saravanansaga...@gmail.com wrote: Dont work crontap job but thats work on terminal in ubuntu anybody help please Like others have said, more details will be needed to help you. +1, Mohan! Also, be sure to compare environment variables. Run this command from the terminal, as well as from a cron job, ( using different filenames to capture the output ). env | sort file.txt Compare the two files manually. This might help you troubleshoot. Cheers, - Ashwin. = Subvert the dominant paradigm. Repeat as desired. http://ownlifeful.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need help
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Saravanan Devasagayam saravanansaga...@gmail.com wrote: Thank for your help I was run this command from the terminal and crontap It is crontab (tab as in table) and *not* crontap (tap as in faucet). Please learn to use the correct terminology. and i was Compare the two files manually but they are different i need daily back up mysql database and weeky optimiz tablea This info is of no help. On May 16, 2013 8:34 AM, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com Among the several mailing list guidelines pay attention to: 1. Do *not* top post 2. Trim your quotes. -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: The part from the article with which I disagree is that it tends to conclude that education is a means to an end. Education is, and mostly has been a guide - a pointer to further ways of development. Unfortunately, like all other things, it has morphed into an entity which is measured by marks on the score-card. I just saw the TED talk by Sugata Mitra that Tavish posted. Just mindblowing! No more canings. :) I suggest a different testing strategy for the future. Give the students all the resources they need to know, all the time. As Mr. Mitra says, knowing is obsolete. Let the students consult books, computers, the Internet, each other, and anyone they can get to help, maybe even the teacher ( if she/he is not careful ). FOSS is one of those things. Children of the future should be given tools they can evolve to their needs and share with others. The slogan is: By any means handy! The test will be that of imagination, not knowledge. There will be no right answers, because the test-creator won't assume that he/she is smarter than the test-takers. In fact, we should give these wonderkids all the resources they need to imagine, let them self-organize, and sit back and expect to be blown away by their creative solutions. They will come up with things we can't imagine! The current education system doesn't account for the Flynn effect. We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter than us, and inhabit a very different world than us. Mr. Mitra even suggests that children are an emerging new species, more evolved than Homo Sapiens. What a thought! Orson Scott Card's highly relevant book, Ender's Game is being made into a movie. Cheers, - Ashwin. -- = Subvert the dominant paradigm. Repeat as desired. http://ownlifeful.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?
--- On Thu, 16/5/13, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter than us, and inhabit a very different world than us. Mr. Mitra even suggests that children are an emerging new species, more evolved than Homo Sapiens. What a thought! Human intelligence 'peaked thousands of years ago and we've been on an intellectual and emotional decline ever since', see the link below http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-decline-ever-since-8307101.html Raman.P blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?
--- On Thu, 16/5/13, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter than us, and inhabit a very different world than us. Mr. Mitra even suggests that children are an emerging new species, more evolved than Homo Sapiens. What a thought! Human intelligence 'peaked thousands of years ago and we've been on an intellectual and emotional decline ever since', see the link below http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-decline-ever-since-8307101.html Raman.P blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: --- On Thu, 16/5/13, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter than us Human intelligence 'peaked thousands of years ago and we've been on an intellectual and emotional decline ever since', see the link below http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-decline-ever-since-8307101.html Interesting article. It's more ideas than facts. For facts, check the Flynn effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect -- = Subvert the dominant paradigm. Repeat as desired. http://ownlifeful.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Beware of skype
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:27 PM, PrasannaKumar Muralidharan prasannatsmku...@gmail.com wrote: From the link http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Skype-with-care-Microsoft-is-reading-everything-you-write-1862870.html it looks like skype is reading user's data. So be beware of that. Arch Wiki suggests making a new user for skype: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Skype#Use_Skype_with_special_user You can call skype from the other user from terminal, you just need to add following to your ~/.bashrc file: ##use skype alias skype='xhost +local: sudo -u skype /usr/bin/skype' ##don't allow skype to touch /home/user umask 066 Regards, Prasanna Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Jitsi - Free Software alternate to Skype
There are news all over Internet about Microsoft spying on its Skype users. You can read a lot like this http://www.zdnet.com/is-microsoft-reading-your-skype-instant-messages-715388/ Whether the news is true or false, people use skype, because they do not find a perfect alternative for it. We have Ekiga, When I tried last time, it does not even established connection properly. Now I recently came through Jitsi - A Free software under GPL which looks promising and available cross-platform. If this functions well, it has the potential to replace Skype, and I have just installed it and will try and post my review on it sooner or later. If this is worth, then we have to promote this tool as a community behind Free Software and Open Source. Jitsi Website - https://jitsi.org/ Source - https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi -- Thanks Regards, Prasanna Venkadesh. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Beware of skype
XMPP (Jabber) is a protocol that respects your freedom and has many clients and servers (free s/w) that respect your freedom. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS http://www.logicamani.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Fwd: [Reps-General] Internship at the Free Software Foundation
Forwarding without prejudice -- Forwarded message -- From: Saurabh Nair saur...@rebugged.com Date: May 11, 2013 11:49 AM Subject: [Reps-General] Internship at the Free Software Foundation To: Mozilla Reps - General reps-gene...@lists.mozilla.org Cc: Hello reps, The Free Software Foundation (makers of the GNU OS - as in GNU/Linux - and others) is looking for interns for this summer. I thought my fellow reps will be interested since the FSF's mission and work aligns to that of Mozilla - *Freedom to users*. The internship is for a duration of 3 months and can be either half day or full day. You will be working from the FSF office in Boston (Massachusetts). You will get opportunity to work closely with really cool people and on great projects. So if you think you are up for it, you can apply directly at http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-advocacy-internships-apply-by-may-15th If you need any help regarding the matter, please let me know at j...@fsf.org Saurabh ___ reps-general mailing list reps-gene...@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/reps-general -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Jitsi - Free Software alternate to Skype
I used Jitsi to make voice/video calls and IMs using my elastix VOIP server. I never find any issues with it. we have 80+ Jitsi packages installed over windows and Linux variants in my previous office. -- With Regards, RK, +91 9840483044 defects ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Jitsi - Free Software alternate to Skype
I installed jitsi. It asks to configure the account network. it shows the below networks. aim,facebook,google talk, icq, ippi, iptel.org, msn, sip, xampp, yahoo. What is the protocol and server we have to choose for seamless viceo/voice/text chat with others? -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Beware of skype
Thanks all for the suggestions :). Regards, Prasanna Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [Reps-General] Internship at the Free Software Foundation
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding without prejudice -- Forwarded message -- From: Saurabh Nair saur...@rebugged.com Date: May 11, 2013 11:49 AM Subject: [Reps-General] Internship at the Free Software Foundation To: Mozilla Reps - General reps-gene...@lists.mozilla.org Cc: Hello reps, The Free Software Foundation (makers of the GNU OS - as in GNU/Linux - and others) is looking for interns for this summer. I thought my fellow reps will be interested since the FSF's mission and work aligns to that of Mozilla - *Freedom to users*. The internship is for a duration of 3 months and can be either half day or full day. You will be working from the FSF office in Boston (Massachusetts). You will get opportunity to work closely with really cool people and on great projects. So if you think you are up for it, you can apply directly at http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-advocacy-internships-apply-by-may-15th The link says: The deadline to apply for a summer internship at the Free Software Foundation has been extended to *May 15th*. If you need any help regarding the matter, please let me know at j...@fsf.org Saurabh ___ reps-general mailing list reps-gene...@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/reps-general -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc * Chirag Vora* Tel: 91 712 272 2478 | Mobile: 91 800 737 5470 www.bio-python.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/chiragvvora ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] PC Configuration for Web Development
How much does your netbook setup cost in all? Also, a netbook mostly comes with a small display (less than 14, if I am not wrong). If so, won't it be uncomfortable developing a web app on a netbook, assuming that you are spending at least 10 hrs a day in front of it? A decent netbook will set you back by around 20k. If you are going to use it for so long in a day, get an extra monitor, keyboard and mouse. Use them when desk bound. I've foun such a setup useful even while I use a larger laptop for work. More screen real estate makes a lot of sense while tailing logs and writing long docs ;-) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [Reps-General] Internship at the Free Software Foundation
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Chirag Vora chirag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding without prejudice The link says: The deadline to apply for a summer internship at the Free Software Foundation has been extended to *May 15th*. You can still try knocking on the door - worst case they will say no. -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Google announces Android studio set to replace Eclipse
Hi folks, One of the latest announcement in Google I/O 2013 is that a new IDE for Android development will be introduced which sets to replace current ADT which combines with Eclipse. Google claims that the aim behind Studio is to help developers be faster and more productive. More details here, http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/05/15/google-announces-android-studio-an-ide-built-just-for-android-developers/ -- With Regards, RK, +91 9840483044 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Jitsi - Free Software alternate to Skype
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM, RK RK kanagaraj...@gmail.com wrote: I used Jitsi to make voice/video calls and IMs using my elastix VOIP server. I also use Elastix VoIP server; great product. With a 1 Mbps (symmetric) connection audio is great but video is unacceptable. Off hand I don't recall the video codec setup in my server. I notice that you mention video calls; what is your WAN bandwidth? -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc