[Ilugc] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS dual booting with Window 7 Partition problem (Arun Khan)
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Dhanagopal R <dhanagop...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors > Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes > Disk identifier: 0x58c35ab5 > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 63 80324 40131 de Dell Utility > Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. (what is it mean ? > Will it cause any problem while installing ubuntu boot loader?) > /dev/sda2 * 819204551884722718464 27 Hidden NTFS WinRE > /dev/sda345518848 784074751 3692779527 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT > /dev/sda4 784074752 1465145343 340535296f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/sda5 784076800 1132236799 174087 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT > /dev/sda6 1132238848 1465145343 1664532487 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT $ let x='1465149168 - 1465145343' $ echo $x 3825 << you have only this many sectors left free on the hard disk. I don't think there is enough free disk space to install Ubuntu on this machine. * I deleted the last partition E, so there was free space @158 Gb for ubuntu installation. * If I am not clear, I would like to explain my problem once again without hijacking the thread. I am having a Dell Laptop Inspiron 17 Model 3721 with Window 7 64 bit pre-installed. The configuration are i5 /6gb/ 750gb HDD. The HDD is having 5 following partitions as per windows disk manager. 1, OEM partion 39mb (Shown as primary) 2, Recovery partition 29 Gb (Shown as primary) 3. C: Primary partition 352 Gb (Primary) 4. D: Logical partition 166 Gb 5, E: Logical partition 158 Gb In the laptop bios, legacy boot is enabled and secure boot is disabled. My intention was to install Grub boot loader in the /boot partition and use the default Windows boot loader by appropriately modifying the entries using Easy BCD (to overcome any unforeseen problem while the nagging upgrade to Windows 10 happens). Though I can use Ubuntu, still I need to keep windows. To Install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS booted from the DVD, deleted the last partition E to create free space. As I am already having 3 primary and 1 logical partitions in the HDD, I created /boot and /root partition as logical without any problem. When I proceed to create /home partition that too logical the system was busy for more than 3 hrs and nothing happened. So I shutdown the system and rebooted to Windows. To find a solution for this problem, I googled a bit and came across the following: The 4-partition limit no longer exists with disks that use the GUID Partition Table (GPT). <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table> GPT supports up to 128 partitions by default and does not include the concepts of primary, extended, or logical partitions (although many tools refer to all GPT partitions as "primary partitions," simply because those tools were written with the older MBR system in mind). Intel-based Macs, the vast majority of computers that shipped with Windows 8, and some computers that shipped with Windows 7 (particularly beginning in mid-2011) all use GPT. Most PCs sold before mid-2011 use the older Master Boot Record (MBR) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record> system, which is limited to four primary partitions, one of which may be an extended partition that can hold an earbitrary number of logical partitions. Thus, increasing numbers of readers of this question are likely to find that there is no problem; if the disk is partitioned using GPT, the 4-partition limit simply doesn't exist. After reading the above, my questions are whether is it possible to install Ubuntu by creating all the partitions as logical? Is it mandatory to have all the Linux partition as primary? If not all, what partitions should be created as primary? How to ascertain GUID Partition Table (GPT) is used in a computer ( My laptop was shilled in 2013)? Is it possible to change windows primary partition into logical (except C: the boot partition) using Ubuntu partition utility while installing? Thank to Arun Khan and others for patiently reading my post and suggestions. Regards R.Dhanagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Limit of maximum 4 primary partition vs linux installation
Hi To a query regarding partition for dual booting ubuntu 14,04 and Windows 7, somebody in the group pointed out, there can be only 4 primary partitions in a HDD. I stumbled upon the following while searching for details regarding primary/logical partition. ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/149821/my-disk-already-has-4-primary-partitions-how-can-i-install-ubuntu ) The 4-partition limit no longer exists with disks that use the GUID Partition Table (GPT). <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table> GPT supports up to 128 partitions by default and does not include the concepts of primary, extended, or logical partitions (although many tools refer to all GPT partitions as "primary partitions," simply because those tools were written with the older MBR system in mind). Intel-based Macs, the vast majority of computers that shipped with Windows 8, and some computers that shipped with Windows 7 (particularly beginning in mid-2011) all use GPT. Most PCs sold before mid-2011 use the older Master Boot Record (MBR) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record> system, which is limited to four primary partitions, one of which may be an extended partition that can hold an earbitrary number of logical partitions. Thus, increasing numbers of readers of this question are likely to find that there is no problem; if the disk is partitioned using GPT, the 4-partition limit simply doesn't exist. Can someone enlighten me on this? Is it mandatory to have all the linux partitions as primary for smooth installation? Regards Dhanagopal R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS dual booting with Window 7 Partition problem
Hi, --- On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Dhanagopal R <dhanagop...@gmail.com> wrote: | 1, OEM 39mb OEM partion (Not sure logical or primary) | 2, Recovery partition 29 Gb (Not sure logical or primary) \-- Do these show up when you install Ubuntu? # yes --- | As I am not sure whether the first two partitions or primary or logical, \-- Check in the UI or in fdisk output when you boot from the Live CD. #Below is the output of fdisk -l command ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x58c35ab5 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 63 80324 40131 de Dell Utility Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. (what is it mean ? Will it cause any problem while installing ubuntu boot loader?) /dev/sda2 * 819204551884722718464 27 Hidden NTFS WinRE /dev/sda345518848 784074751 3692779527 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda4 784074752 1465145343 340535296f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 784076800 1132236799 174087 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda6 1132238848 1465145343 1664532487 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT --- | I preferred a | /boot partition to install boot loader there to use windows boot loader \-- The bootloader gets installed in the first 512 bytes and is called the Master Boot Record (MBR). You really don't need a large /boot. --- | As somebody suggested, I can also wait for the release of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. \-- If you have run out of primary partitions, waiting for Ubuntu 16.04 is not going to solve anything. Please check your primary partitions. # To install Ubuntu is it mandatory to have all the partitions as primary? What about creating /boot and /root as primary and /home as logical? Kindly check the above partition detail and advise whether, I could install Ubuntu 14,04 in my Windows 7 laptop to dual boot. What does it mean Regards, ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS dual booting with Window 7 Partition problem (Dhanagopal R)
--- On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Dhanagopal R <dhanagop...@gmail.com> wrote: | 2. Selected the free space using the Ubuntu partition utility | 3. Created 1gb /boot logical partition ext4 - no problem | 3. Then created a 30 gb / root logical partition ext4 - no problem | 4. Then created a 130 gb /home logical partition ext4 - There was problem. | I could not proceed to create /swap partition. \-- >Firstly, that is a very well written e-mail. You have provided all the >steps that you had followed for us to understand what you are >experimenting with. Let me thank members who responded to my mail. #1 Why are you creating logical partitions? You can create up to four primary partitions. The Windows HDD is having 5 following partitions 1, OEM 39mb OEM partion (Not sure logical or primary) 2, Recovery partition 29 Gb (Not sure logical or primary) 3. C: Primary partition 352 Gb 4. D: Logical partition 166 Gb 5, E: Logical partition 158 Gb (In this partition I wanted to Install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS) As I am not sure whether the first two partitions or primary or logical, I preferred to create linux partitions as logical to overcome the limitation of not exceeding four primary partitions in a HDD. #2 You do not need 1 GB for /boot. Try installing with separate /, /home and swap primary partitions. Of course, I can reduce the /boot partition size to 500 mb. I preferred a /boot partition to install boot loader there to use windows boot loader instead of Grub 2 to avoid issues when upgrade to windows 10. #3 Can you also check if there are no other primary partitions on the hard drive? There is one known primary partition C: and two more; OEM and Recovery partitions of Windows 7 (logical?). As somebody suggested, I can also wait for the release of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Regards R.Dhanagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS dual booting with Window 7 Partition problem
Hi I attempted to install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64bit in my Dell laptop (Inspiron 17 3721 i5/ 6gb / 750 gb HDD / Windows 7 pro) to dual boot. In the laptop legacy bios was enabled and secure boot disabled. I booted the system using the downloaded ISO DVD and did the following steps: 1. Deleted the empty 170 gb Windows NTFS partition to create free space. 2. Selected the free space using the Ubuntu partition utility 3. Created 1gb /boot logical partition ext4 - no problem 3. Then created a 30 gb / root logical partition ext4 - no problem 4. Then created a 130 gb /home logical partition ext4 - There was problem. I could not proceed to create /swap partition. After clicking OK, home partition did not get created. It was showing busy icon for more than two hours. Then I clicked the cancel button. There was no response for another one more hour. Only the busy icon was displayed. Then I am forced to shutdown the system, removed the DVD. Rebooted into Windows and checked the disk partition, all the partitions including the deleted one remained intact as NTFS. Earlier I had installed different versions of Ubuntu in many laptops and desktops (dual booting). I find this problem strange and also googled a bit. Some people have reported similar issue i.e. Ubuntu partition utility taking longer time to create ext4 file system. I shall be thankful if someone from ilugc suggest me a solution. R.Dhanagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Dual booting ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit with Windows 7 64 bit
Hi I am planning to install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (dual boot) in my Dell Inspiron 17 Laptop. It has Windows 7 professional 64 bit OEM version. The processor is Intel core i5 3337U 1.8 GHz which supports 64 bit instruction set. I would like to know which desktop image PC (intel 386) or 64 bit PC (AMD 64) I should download and use. Will this Intel processor support 64 bit Ubuntu? I shall be thankful, if someone clarify my doubt. R.Dhanagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Partition issue to dual boot windows 7 and Ubuntu
Hi I have recently got a Dell Inspiron 17 Laptop online from US. I would like to install Ubuntu and dual boot with Windows 7 Pro 64 bit (already factory installed in C: by default. The HDD remains partitioned as follows: 1. 39 MB OEM Partition 2. 21.67 GB Recovery (System active Primary Partition) - created by dell recovery backup tool 3. OS (C:) Boot, Page File, Crash Dump Primary partition I have to shrink the partition C: to create two more partitions one for data another for Ubuntu installation. I did a google search. Some suggest not to use the GParted that comes with Ubuntu and has some issues with Windows NTFS. Some say the partition utility of Windows 7 Professional 64 bit is not reliable. I shall be thankful, if some one guide me how to proceed (with links or step by step instruction). I am dual booting my desktop with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Windows 7 ultimate 32 bit without any issues. I did not remember, what partition utility I used for that. Thanks. R.Dhanagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Installing grub in the root partition
Hi I was dual booting windows xp and ubuntu 12.4. Now I have installed windows 7. I would like to install grub in the root partition of ubuntu to use Easy BCD utility to add ubuntu 12.4 to the windows 7 boot loader. I followed the steps listed below and gets error message. Can someone help me with right step by step instruction. Thanks. R.Dhanagopal ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x18851884 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *2048 206847 1024007 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 20684861431807306124807 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda361432621 312576704 125572042f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 129692808 197952929341300617 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda6 197952993 26622917934138093+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda7 266229243 270132974 1951866 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda8 270133038 285764219 7815591 83 Linux /dev/sda9 285764283 31257670413406211 83 Linux /dev/sda10 61435904 129691647341278727 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT Partition table entries are not in disk order ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i root@ubuntu:~# sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x18851884 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *2048 206847 1024007 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 20684861431807306124807 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda361432621 312576704 125572042f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 129692808 197952929341300617 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda6 197952993 26622917934138093+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda7 266229243 270132974 1951866 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda8 270133038 285764219 7815591 83 Linux /dev/sda9 285764283 31257670413406211 83 Linux /dev/sda10 61435904 129691647341278727 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT Partition table entries are not in disk order root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt mount: /dev/sda8 already mounted or /mnt busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda8 is already mounted on /mnt root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/boot root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev/ root@ubuntu:~# sudo chroot /mnt root@ubuntu:/# gurb-install /dev/sda8 No command 'gurb-install' found, did you mean: Command 'grub-install' from package 'lupin-support' (main) Command 'grub-install' from package 'grub-coreboot' (universe) Command 'grub-install' from package 'grub' (main) Command 'grub-install' from package 'grub-efi-ia32' (main) Command 'grub-install' from package 'grub-ieee1275' (universe) Command 'grub-install' from package 'grub-efi-amd64' (main) Command 'grub-install' from package 'grub-pc' (main) gurb-install: command not found root@ubuntu:/# sudo grub-install /dev/sda8 sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition. This is a BAD idea.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists. root@ubuntu:/# ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Tamil transliteration IME ubuntu 12.04
Hi Is there any easy tool like google tamil transliteration IME, which could be used in Ubuntu 12.04 for off-line tamil typing. I find other tamil typing tools/methods available for Linux difficult for novice. Thanks. R.Dhangopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] xubuntu 9.1 x does not start error
Hi I have installed xubuntu 9.1 in a Intel P III/256mb/40gb box. It was working fine for few days. Suddenly it fails to boot giving the following message after getting updated to latest kernel. I shall appreciate if someone guide me to solve this problem. X doesn't start (important). It gives the following error messages on the console: [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 65520 wanted 65528 [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 65512 wanted 65528 [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 65504 wanted 65528 [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 65496 wanted 65528 [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup R.Dhanagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Firefox 3.5.5 crashes in ubuntu 9.04
Hi I am multibooting a system with Ubuntu 9.04 Windows XP. I have installed firefox 3.5.5 in Ubuntu 9,04 following exactly the steps outlined in the link below: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/193/installing-firefox-3-5-in-ubuntu-the-easy-way However it crashes randomly while opening some sites. Is it due to some bug in the firefox 3.5.5? Since it is irritating I revert to the default version of Firefox 3.0.5 included in Ubuntu 9.04 which is working without any problem. I would like to know if any one in the group faced similar problem and could suggest a solution? R.Dhanagopal ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] dynebolic linux - unable to log in as user
Hi I have installed the recent version of dynebolic linux in my old P III with 256mb RAM dual booting ubuntu 7.1 with grub. I am able boot into dynebolic linux as root (default option). It is working fine. I created a user account with adduser command with password. A home dirctory is also get created in the HDD nest. But I am unable to login as user. When I logout as root the xserver hangs.There is no login screen to type username and password. Hope somebody would be using dynebolic in the ilugc. I shall appreciate any help. Many people seems to have faced this problem in dynebolic linux. Googing did not yield any fruitful solution. I shall appreciate any help. Thanks. R.Dhanagopal -- அற்றால் அறவறிந்து உண்க அஃதுடம்பு பெற்றான் நெடிதுய்க்கும் ஆறு. - குறள் எண் : 943 ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
