Re: [Ilugc] More on e-mail part II
I have done training for a living; I burnt my fingers. As to writing a book it is worse. I am happy doing this. Well said. Very wise words from a person of your age. A blog and this mailing list would be a very good avenue for your efforts. All the best. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Who is the user that runs apache webserver ?
only root can start apache - that thread has 'start' in it. Nonsense. Every process has 'start' in it. Go through the posted process output before commenting. To answer the OP; the first apache process is started by root user. The remaining processes are spawned by apache user. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Mr. Baskar of LinuXpert Systems' interview in Kalaignar TV y'day
I had the pleasure of listening to this entire interview. In the first half, Mr. Baskar spoke in detail about the Free Software Movement, Stallman's contributions, the GNU project; the Linux kernel, and then about Torvalds' contribution. Then he discussed about the collaborative model of software development as opposed to the proprietary model followed by most Corporate companies. Mr. Baskar then emphasized the strong growth and acceptance of the GNU/Linux Server by most Corporate companies and the various uses it is put to. In the second half, Mr. Baskar lamented the fact that a kernel and Operating System both of which were born from Academic Institutions is not being taught in Academic institutions in India. He launched a scathing attack on proprietary software companies and the practices which they follow to impose their products in the curriculum to the exclusion of Free and Open Source Software. He then spoke about how Universities in Tamil Nadu are named after great thinkers like Anna and Periyar; and how they have bowed down to commercial and vested interests these days. He compared the strong efforts taken by the Kerala Govt. to impart FOSS based curriculum beginning from primary school level and above. --- Overall, it was a very pleasing interview, and Mr. Baskar spoke in Tamil quite fluently; and indeed I myself could not follow many of the words which he used. His strong passion and commitment to the cause of Free Software was evident throughout the interview. His humble beginnings and strong self-belief in starting and sustaining his own company based on FOSS were remarkable. --- I had only one major correction for him - he used the phrase 'Copyrighted Software' to describe 'Proprietary Software'. I felt he should've stuck to Proprietary itself; since even Free Software derives its Freedom because of the GPL License; which itself derives its existence from the concept of Copyright. --- All in all, it was a fantastic interview, and I feel ilugc members must congratulate him warmly for his efforts and achievements. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] 2 day workshop on Open Source Tools and Components
Computer Society of India Division III and Free Software Movement of India in association with KGISL Institute of Technology; jointly present a 2-day workshop on Open Source Tools and Components. The workshop will be conducted at KGISL Campus in Saravanampatty; on Monday and Tuesday (2nd and 3rd April, 2012) and will be broadcast live. The workshop is intended to help students of Final Year CSE under Anna University Coimbatore, who are having Open Source Tools and Components as a Final Semester subject in their academics. Dr. Debesh Das from CSI - Division III, will be joined by volunteers from FSMI and jointly conduct the workshop. Interested colleges, please contact the undersigned. We will enable 1 or more (upto 5) ip-addresses per participating College so that the broadcast can be viewed by the respective students from their own colleges. A nominal fee shall be collected towards bandwidth and other organising charges. Students who are reading this email, please inform your College authorities to join in this useful workshop; so that the Final Year CSE students can be benefited. Any clarifications or more information needed, please contact me off-list or on my mobile. Thanks Sundaram KR k...@kggroup.com 9487163035 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] USB stick for Android tablets?
I recently purchased an Android 2.2 Wespro 7 tablet. But it does not support my existing Reliance USB Broadband stick. Which data card should I buy for my Android tablet? Anyone with experience?? Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] block facebook squid
edit /etc/hosts and add following in last line 127.0.0.1 Website address you need to block.com This will redirect the requests to your machine which running the squid proxy server, so user can't reach that website. This is a clumsy and often unworkable solution. 1. It has to be done on each individual client machine using the squid proxy. 2. It has to be constantly updated on each machine. 3. And every browser on said client machine must be configured NOT TO use the proxy for such banned domains. Very clumsy. There has to be a more elegant way. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Needed: Training on Asterisk and related software
Hello Luggies, I need training on Asterisk and related software for my team - about 8 engineers. Those with necessary expertise may please contact me off-list. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Workshop in Gnanamani Group of Institutions, Namakkal Dt.
In lots of times I found that, you post as I did this... I did this... I did this Instead of this you can share about the student's interest on FOSS. Its my kind request. You can post your self advertisement in your own blog. What is your problem? Atleast Bhaskar did something to promote FOSS what about you? Writing about FOSS activities in this mailing list is not advertisement. Stop being jealous. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Lecture capture software in Linux...
Is there any decent lecture capture software in Linux? I am teaching some subjects - Microprocessors, Open Source Tools and Components etc. I want to prepare video lectures incorporating ppt slides, class notes, questions, and of course my own audio and if possible, a small video of my face as well. Any suggestions from people with experience? TIA ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Mailman customisation services needed
Hi, I am interested in customising Mailman - mailing list manager - to run as a Task Management System. My users should be able to send mails to this list for tasks they need to get done. The system should be able to group the emails taskwise, and offer facility to update the 'status' of the task, also through email. Mailman is based on Python. I am willing to pay for the customisation services. Anyone interested please contact me strictly off-list. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mailman customisation services needed
In addition, I also want the Mailman to store user's mobile numbers and SMS any tasks that are created. An Android app forcreating and updating tasks would also be a useful feature. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] RMS meet at Chennai - training for organizers
rms till date couldn't find a suitable alternative to free, though he agrees with mis-interpretation it raises. I think RMS is full of mischief. He never cared for Corporates, but only for small users and the society. So I feel he purposely used the word Free to make it attractive to the layman. In India and anywhere, people will travel by car spending Rs. 100/- on petrol to save Rs.50/- on some purchase if there is a Free offer. I think I have some solid evidence for my claim that RMS is mischievous: Consider the word GNU - initially it was pronounced as New, so as to make it more appealing. And consider the word Hurd which he used for his 'free' kernel project. It is very easy to confuse Hurd with Herd; in order to encourage the Herd mentality of the computing masses. So although RMS claims Free stands for Freedom, it is only the second or third meaning in the dictionary. The attempt is not to clarify, but to purposely and mischievously mislead to misinterpret. Thanks for laughing. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] RMS meet at Chennai - training for organizers
I think I have some solid evidence for my claim that RMS is mischievous: Some more evidence: 1. Stallman named his famous license as the GPL which stands for General Public License. This creates the impression that this is the license which the general public wants. And also that other licenses are not for the general public but for the big bad corporates. Why didn't he call it Free Software License or FSL for short? Purposely to misinterpret, IMO. 2. Also, Stalmman and his FSF folks give bad and critical expansions for acronymns which they don't like. For example: DRM: Originally stood for Digital Rights Management; RMS called it Digital Restrictions Management. CBDTPA: Consumer Broadband Data... something Act, The FSF expands it to: Consume But Don't Try Programming Act. Microsoft retorted by renaming DRM to RMS, calling it Rights Management System!;-) Stallman couldn't respond because it was his own initials ;-) A funny game is being played here, for the minds and hearts of the computing masses. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] RMS meet at Chennai - training for organizers
I think I have created an impression that I dislike RMS for being mischievous. On the contrary I admire the man a lot, and I am one of his longtime ardent devotees. I liked his plain speaking after Steve Jobs died. I look forward to meeting the great man in person on Feb 6th, and exchanging a few words and thoughts. Cheers ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Advanced Linux Shell Scripting Work Shop [OT]
There are some who have issues with anyone trying to make money off FOSS. But IMO, majority on this list encourage such activity. Pls go ahead. +1 I am totally disappointed why even FOSS lovers confuse Freedom with Gratis. As long as it is FOSS related, I feel there need not be any tags to start a thread on this forum. This [Commercial] tag is bullshit, IMO. There is nothing like Free Lunch or Free Beer. Readers who are genuinely interested in the topics or offers i nthis list can apply their mind and decide whether to pay or not. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Asterix compatible card in india
Try with Grandstream Microvillage in Chennai. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Needed: Moodle customisation or consultants
We need consultants who can write Moodle plugins for things like Attendance, Marks, Administration etc. We are also open to receive training on Moodle customisation by companies who have the expertise. Interested parties please contact off-list. Thanks ...KRS +91 94871 63035 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for suggestion : laptop VS netbook
priority is to get rid of the complainant as fast as possible. Noting that you are still alive and kicking, they have not succeeded!!! ;-) Or did you mean Complaint? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] How to create yahoogroups like site?
But how do i create a new group mail, dynamically? Use Mailman, which is the software used for this ilugc mailing list. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] How to create yahoogroups like site?
If i am right, mailman provides only one group mail id. Please correct me if i am wrong. You can create any number of groups with Mailman. Regarding building an interface with an external site, it is also possible. ilugcbe mailing list is actually ilug...@googlegroups.com but still adminstered through Mailman. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [Commercial] Needed: Website development and integration...
Dear Luggies, KG Hospital is looking to revamp its website. Simultaneously, we are looking to integrate it with the appointments system; provide online chat assistance; online enquiry form; etc. Only open source tools and components may be used in the design. Those interested (including students) may please contact me strictly off-list. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?
quote from Mumbai list: Adhar and the UIDAI are a fraud of the first order. They dont have a clue about identity, biometrics or security. Never mind the various social factors involved in eligibility to subsidy, recieving disbursement, corruption etc. All of which is claimed to be cured by the snake oil known as AAdhar. Mr. NN is an arrogant, ignorant marketroid, in the mould of various M$ execs. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ Such vicious and personal attacks and comments are of little use in constructive decision. Let us concentrate on actionable items instead. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Need help installing Mailman
Hi I am trying to install Mailman in my company and we are getting into some Postfix problems. Can anyone help us troubleshoot this and get it to work? Interested people please contact me off-list. You can visit our office in person, or we will arrange remote ssh access. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?
I feel this is a very very sad thing happening. Sometime back I read the only proprietary component used was for interfacing the devices since biometric devices come only with Windows drivers. Now it appears the entire stack is Windows-based. Mr. Nilekani must be exposed and removed from this project. He has no vision for India and Indians; he appears to be a mere pawn working for the interests of MNCs looting India. I found the database used by Aadhar was most probably SQL 2005; which is absurd. The lifetime of Aadhar project is very very large compared to the lifetime of Microsoft products. Every 3 years versions of the OS, database, .Net Runtime etc. keep changing. It is a continuous upgrade treadmill into which the Govt of India project will be sucked into. The biggest IT deployments (in my view) - or atleast some of the biggest IT deployments - are the Indian Railways ticketing system; and the Life Insurance Corporation system; both of which use Open Source. ALL the biggest stock exchanges in the World use Linux based software, not Windows. The London stock Exchange was using TradeElect by Microsoft and Accenture; which they recently abandoned and went back to Linux after crashes and performance hangs. I request all members to suggest concrete methods by which this project can be rescued and made into Open Source stack, instead of merely complaining on a mailing list. Please post your constructive actionable suggestions. Thanks KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?
I request all members to suggest concrete methods by which this project can be rescued and made into Open Source stack, instead of merely complaining on a mailing list. IMO, If we can get some details on the architecture from UIDAI, we might be able to justify our concerns. So, I guess, the first step is to establish contact with the UIDAI technical group (atleast, one among the various departments/modules) - I have a suggestion. Can we rope in Dr. Abdul Kalam to mediate in this matter? I am quoting from what Dr. Kalam said about open source software when he was president of India: I would like to narrate an event that took place in Rashtrapati Bhavan a few months back when I met Bill Gates, the CEO of Microsoft. While walking in the Mughal garden, we were discussing the future challenges in Information Technology including the issues related to software security. I made a point that we look for open source codes so that we can easily introduce the users built security algorithms Our discussions became difficult since our views were different.The most unfortunate thing is that India still seems to believe in proprietary solutions. Further spread of IT which is influencing the daily life of individuals would have a devastating effect on the lives of society due to any small shift in the business practice involving these proprietory solutions. It is precisely for these reasons open source software need to be built which would be cost effective for the entire society. In India, open source code software will have to come and stay in a big way for the bene fit of our billion people. The entire speech was available on NIC's website for the President of India; itpromptly was completely removed from existence the day Dr.Kalam completed his tenure! Here's a link in my company's site: (the speech is now available only in private company links, so I am sorry for the shameless plug: http://fossible.kgisl.com/fossible/users.php?mode=apj_speek I feel a person of Dr. Kalam's stature is needed in this fight, and the vested interests will have to bow down and give way. Does anyone here have contacts with Dr. Kalam? Please let us keep this chat going. --- Incidentally, a similar topic by Swapnil was categorised as off-topic by some, I would like to opine otherwise. FOSS is very much a social phenomenon as much as it is a matter of technology. We have to stand up and be counted to survive in the predatory world of proprietary software. I quote from Wikipedia: The free software movement is a social and political movement with the goal of ensuring software users' four basic freedoms: the freedom to run their software, to study and change their software, and to redistribute copies with or without changes. Thanks for reading. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?
Shall we send our queries to the following contacts 7 Subodh SaxenaTechnical Director - IT49819891 subodh.sax...@nic.in 8 Vineet TomarPrincipal System Analyst - it49819891vineetto...@uidai.gov.in mentioned in the contact us section of UIDAI website ? http://uidai.gov.in/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=172Itemid=29 I think that would be a good idea. Can we start drafting a decent note and edit it collaboratively? Any volunteers to kickstart the letter draft? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] UID, Aadhar and Open Source
Also most contracts have gone to Wipro (Nilekani's company) and MS hub. I don't think Nilekani ever worked for Wipro, only at Infosys. And everyone knows how Infosys and MS are very close to each other. Regarding details, can RTI be applied to get the needed info? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
Swapnil, I(I hope with others) dont see any problem in the link or the topic you had sent. Please continue your contribution. +1 Please continue. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [OT] [Job] Needed - Python engineers
My company KGISL is looking for 4 to 5 expereinced engineers in Python and OpenERP for an ERP project. It is a full time position, and salary will be on par with performance and experience. Interested people may please contact me off-list: k...@kggroup.com +91 94871-63035 Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Stable
am posted to Coimbatore and a hardware vendors name would be appreciated too. Please contact Mr.Govindaraj of GKV Computers, near Gandhipuram. 9843220715 ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Need copy of Revolution OS movie DVD...
Can anybody send me a copy of this DVD? I shall pay the needed amount by cheque or wire transfer. Please contact me off-list with details. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Transcript of Stallman's lecture...
Many years back I remember reading a lengthy transcript of Mr. Stallman's speech at MIT Chromepet. Can anybody point me to a link where I can find it now? TIA ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
