Re: [Ilugc] [fosscomm] Hacking and Activism
On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 11:02 +0530, Arun Khan wrote: > As has been suggested, please do not cross post topics that are going > to generate talk back. Most of the members of the *lists* you have > cross posted to are not likely members of *all/some* of the same lists > and therefore responses are going to be disjointed in each of those > mailing list. > > Please post them individually and summarize the discussion from each > of the lists in one final post. I agree - I pressed reply to his post and got some bounce from some other list. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [fosscomm] Hacking and Activism
@ Mani As has been suggested, please do not cross post topics that are going to generate talk back. Most of the members of the *lists* you have cross posted to are not likely members of *all/some* of the same lists and therefore responses are going to be disjointed in each of those mailing list. Please post them individually and summarize the discussion from each of the lists in one final post. On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:46 AM, A. Mani wrote: > The term "ethical hacking" usually makes no sense because "ethics" is > part of "hacking". > Cracking is reserved for "actual methods for illegally subverting the > security of computer systems". > Terms like "ethical cracking" may make sense in complex > corporate-political scenarios Explain this to the CTO, CSO of most IT shops; most likely you will get a glazed look. > But the FSMK people have decided to use the term "ethical hacking" for > "hacking + Activism" and possibly beyond. > http://www.fsmk.org/ethical-hacking > > Is this a good move? FOSS or no FOSS, FSMK needs to get the message across to a larger audience than those who do differentiate between "hacking" and "cracking" - marketing reality. Perhaps in the workshop content they can highlight this point across to the attendees. My 11.2 paise. -- Arun Khan "As a layman, I would say we have it, but as a scientist I have to say, 'What do we have?'" Rolf Heuer, Director General CERN on the announcement of Higgs Boson particle. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [fosscomm] Hacking and Activism
> > But the FSMK people have decided to use the term "ethical hacking" for > "hacking + Activism" and possibly beyond. > http://www.fsmk.org/ethical-hacking > > Is this a good move? > time will tell , so far the users of the term have had made money , also the motive of FSMK is not clear may be they wanted to catch the attention as in publicity since the spin web doctors and media have done so much to register the term in people 's mind it makes it so much more easier to sell something than just old philosophical and moral high ground points. etymologically speaking there is some research to be done to find how this word came into being , a quick web search just could find one such paper on the http://digitalcommons.kennesaw.edu/facpubs/1451/ term but alas that too was not accessible to me it looks like lots of terms like spam,hacker which have made it to the urban language then to the dictionaries , so may be this term will be as acceptable to you as spam is over period of time. this was the most interesting one did not know that RMS was a whithat till i read this http://www.protectivehacks.com/Ethical-Hacking.html , as i said this one and many more like these have used and abused the term. so overall it speaks of changing times and desperation of certain organizations to have themselves heard you should be writing to the organizations and the individuals in order to understand what the motives has been if you have an issue with them. but yes i agree it does make a case to study and publish something about what the term really means wrt to free software , open source etc.. now i think i am getting into an area where most people here are not comfortable with like researching with these terms itself , i think it will soon become OT :-) because of the etymological research we are talking about. -Satya fossevents.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
