Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-19 Thread steve

Hi

You've already got quite a few responses with suggestions, so, I am going to 
repeat that. However, I just wanted to point something out ...


On 04/19/2010 10:18 AM, JITHIN K wrote:

Yes ,

Username and one password i would like to give to one customer and other
password i like to give to developers. ( Developers have the full privilege
but the customers shouldn't have the full privilege)


Think a bit about what you described and you'll see what you are describing is 
one user (the customer) and a group of other users (the developers). So, an 
alternate way to go approach this would be to make a one to one mapping between 
actual users (customers as well as individual developers) and implementing 
access control based on groups.


cheers,
- steve




On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, sivakumar  wrote:


 >  I am using Ubuntu Server 9.10  as a my FTP server. I would like to create
 a
 >  FTP user account with two passwords ( Rather than sharing the passwords).
 >  And to set privileges to the user who is logged in based on the
 passwords.
 >  Your suggestions are welcomed.

 Any specific reason not to have two usernames ?

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Re: Subject: Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-19 Thread JITHIN K
Hai Prem,

I think that its a good idea. If two passwords with single user breaks the
security criteria. Then i would like to follow your method ( Which u posted
here).


Thanks & Regards

Jithin K

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Prem Kurian Philip
wrote:

>
> Jithin k wrote:
>
> >Hai Abgishek k,
>
> >I just want to know that, will it possible.
>
> >Regards
>
> >Jithin k
>
> As far as I know, it is not possible in any FTP server software I have
> looked at. The user name is mapped to a single password.
>
> What you can do is to have multiple users with different access rights to
> the same folder. You could give your clients one username with the lower
> access rights and give your developers separate usernames with greater
> levels of access to those directories. It is not hard to do.
>
> >>  Why not have just two usernames instead with full-rights and partial
> >> rights? I think it is a better solution and more secure than what you
> are
> >> trying to achieve.
> >>
> >> (Never heard of a user having two passwords. That's a first ;-) ;-) )
>
> Regards,
> Prem
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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-19 Thread JITHIN K
Thanks Arun Kumar  and Manu for your response.


Regards

Jithin k




On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Manokaran K  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, JITHIN K  wrote:
>
> > Hai Abgishek k,
> >
> > I just want to know that, will it possible.
> >
> >
> Technically, its possible. At worst you can modify the src of some open
> source ftp server to achieve that!
>
> But the idea behind a 'username' is to give an identity to some entity
> that's performing some actions on the system. And the password is just to
> ensure the entity is the authorized owner of the 'identiy'. In your case
> you
> want to restrict actions based on identity. So, its clearly a case of two
> usernames!
>
> regds,
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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-19 Thread Manokaran K
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, JITHIN K  wrote:

> Hai Abgishek k,
>
> I just want to know that, will it possible.
>
>
Technically, its possible. At worst you can modify the src of some open
source ftp server to achieve that!

But the idea behind a 'username' is to give an identity to some entity
that's performing some actions on the system. And the password is just to
ensure the entity is the authorized owner of the 'identiy'. In your case you
want to restrict actions based on identity. So, its clearly a case of two
usernames!

regds,
mano
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Subject: Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-19 Thread Prem Kurian Philip

Jithin k wrote:

>Hai Abgishek k,

>I just want to know that, will it possible.

>Regards

>Jithin k

As far as I know, it is not possible in any FTP server software I have
looked at. The user name is mapped to a single password.

What you can do is to have multiple users with different access rights to
the same folder. You could give your clients one username with the lower
access rights and give your developers separate usernames with greater
levels of access to those directories. It is not hard to do.

>>  Why not have just two usernames instead with full-rights and partial
>> rights? I think it is a better solution and more secure than what you are
>> trying to achieve.
>>
>> (Never heard of a user having two passwords. That's a first ;-) ;-) )

Regards,
Prem

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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-19 Thread Arun Khan
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, JITHIN K  wrote:
> Hai Abgishek k,
>
> I just want to know that, will it possible.

No, it goes against the grain of user security model in any OS.

I strongly second the solutions that others have suggested i.e. have
separate logins for your developers and customers.

Besides the above you can attain additional ACL via group ids, sticky
bits, and your file system's extended ACLs.

Please read them up, do some testing on your desktop before embarking
on any implementation on production systems.

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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-18 Thread JITHIN K
Hai Abgishek k,

I just want to know that, will it possible.

Regards

Jithin k

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Abhishek K  wrote:

>  Why not have just two usernames instead with full-rights and partial
> rights? I think it is a better solution and more secure than what you are
> trying to achieve.
>
> (Never heard of a user having two passwords. That's a first ;-) ;-) )
>
> Regards,
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> Original Message---
> * From: * JITHIN K [jithin...@gmail.com]
> * To: * ILUG-C [il...@ae.iitm.ac.in]
> * Date: * Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:18:05 +0530
> * Subject: * Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords
>
>> Yes ,
>>
>> Username and one password i would like to give to one customer and other
>> password i like to give to developers. ( Developers have the full
>> privilege
>> but the customers shouldn't have the full privilege)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, sivakumar  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I am using Ubuntu Server 9.10  as a my FTP server. I would like to create
>>>>
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>>> FTP user account with two passwords ( Rather than sharing the
>>>> passwords).
>>>> And to set privileges to the user who is logged in based on the
>>>>
>>>>
>>> passwords.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Your suggestions are welcomed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Any specific reason not to have two usernames ?
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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-18 Thread Abhishek K
 Why not have just two usernames instead with full-rights and partial 
rights? I think it is a better solution and more secure than what you 
are trying to achieve.


(Never heard of a user having two passwords. That's a first ;-) ;-) )

Regards,
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<http://twitter.com/abhihello>


Original Message---
* From: * JITHIN K [jithin...@gmail.com]
* To: * ILUG-C [il...@ae.iitm.ac.in]
* Date: * Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:18:05 +0530
* Subject: * Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

Yes ,

Username and one password i would like to give to one customer and other
password i like to give to developers. ( Developers have the full privilege
but the customers shouldn't have the full privilege)


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, sivakumar  wrote:

   

I am using Ubuntu Server 9.10  as a my FTP server. I would like to create
   

a
 

FTP user account with two passwords ( Rather than sharing the passwords).
And to set privileges to the user who is logged in based on the
   

passwords.
 

Your suggestions are welcomed.
   

Any specific reason not to have two usernames ?

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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-18 Thread JITHIN K
Yes ,

Username and one password i would like to give to one customer and other
password i like to give to developers. ( Developers have the full privilege
but the customers shouldn't have the full privilege)


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, sivakumar  wrote:

> > I am using Ubuntu Server 9.10  as a my FTP server. I would like to create
> a
> > FTP user account with two passwords ( Rather than sharing the passwords).
> > And to set privileges to the user who is logged in based on the
> passwords.
> > Your suggestions are welcomed.
>
> Any specific reason not to have two usernames ?
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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-18 Thread subhojit ojha
>
> >I am using Ubuntu Server 9.10  as a my FTP server. I would like to create
> a
> >FTP user account with two passwords ( Rather than sharing the passwords).
> >And to set privileges to the user who is logged in based on the passwords.
> >Your suggestions are welcomed.
>

Can u tell me why u need two password for an account and what I know is that
an FTP user can have only one password at a time, explain your requirements
brieflyso that it will be easy for us to understand ur requirements.

Regards
Subhojit Ojha
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Re: [Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-18 Thread sivakumar
> I am using Ubuntu Server 9.10  as a my FTP server. I would like to create a
> FTP user account with two passwords ( Rather than sharing the passwords).
> And to set privileges to the user who is logged in based on the passwords.
> Your suggestions are welcomed.

Any specific reason not to have two usernames ?

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[Ilugc] An FTP user with two passwords

2010-04-18 Thread JITHIN K
Hai all,


I am using Ubuntu Server 9.10  as a my FTP server. I would like to create a
FTP user account with two passwords ( Rather than sharing the passwords).
And to set privileges to the user who is logged in based on the passwords.
Your suggestions are welcomed.


Regards

Jithin K
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