Re: [Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
Porting .NET to Linux will definitely help Microsoft. Perhaps not in direct Windows sales, but in the platform war against Java. Microsoft is already heavily involved in adding .NET support for Python, Ruby, etc. Back in 2000 my university was funded by Microsoft to port our Mercury programming language to .NET. An increased .NET marketshare, will certainly benefit Microsoft. Yes.. its very true.. there is this possibility also.. it will provide a very good chance for all .NET developers to embrace linux.. existing of mono-develop and sharp-develop will make them dump visual studio for small and medium projects.. Windows sales will be dropped, the VStudio sales would be dropped, if the Mono matures in to stable product.. But in overall, the benefit to microsoft is more than losses.. Hence i suggested Ruby on Rails for the final year engineering students for doing their project.. (earlier i was thinking of suggesting .NET in Mono) I went thru the .NET architecture.. the main advantage of CLR format in .NET is that its converted to native code the first time it is executed, and all subsequent runs will use the compiled code.. but the java byte code is compiled everytime it was run.. Cant Java fill this gap easily? Regards, Senthil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
From: senthilraja P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes.. its very true.. there is this possibility also.. it will provide a very good chance for all .NET developers to embrace linux.. existing of mono-develop and sharp-develop will make them dump visual studio for small and medium projects.. Windows sales will be dropped, the VStudio sales would be dropped, if the Mono matures in to stable product.. Mono would have been a great framework for Linux and other non-MS OSs if the mono developers had not stated up front that they want to make Mono a close implementation of the .NET specification. MS as the author of the .NET specification and also as the organization developing a lot of the technology behind .NET will always have an advantage in the development of a .NET implementation and their implementation will always be ahead of Mono in terms of compliance with the .NET specification. Because of this Mono has always been viewed as the inferior implementation of the .NET specifications and has been shunned by most enterprises. Barring a handful of commercial apps which target Mono, pretty much every other .NET application is targeted for the MS's implementation of .NET. If the Mono developers had instead worked on a framework for Linux and other OSs which borrowed concepts such as the IL, CLR etc but was based on their own specification (that is, it is not branded as a .NET implementation for Linux/other OSs) and had worked on developing an all encompassing API which allowed apps to run on this framework and yet be written in many languages allowing applications to be developed for both the web as well as the desktop, it would have made Mono a great framework. Sadly, as it stands, the fact that the mono developers have opted to make it comply with the .NET specifications has resulted in Mono being seen as an inferior and potentially legally-suspect implementation (due to the fact that it uses technologies patented by MS) of the .NET specification and this will severely limit it use. Thanks, PK ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
On 02-Sep-08, at 10:22 AM, Prem Kurian Philip wrote: Sadly, as it stands, the fact that the mono developers have opted to make it comply with the .NET specifications has resulted in Mono being seen as an inferior and potentially legally-suspect implementation (due to the fact that it uses technologies patented by MS) of the .NET specification and this will severely limit it use. so what about dotgnu? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
Hi, I was going through Mono and Mono develop few days back. It was said, that mono is a .NET port for linux, spearheaded by Novell. Can Mono be an efficient tool for commercial projects? If its so, why its not widely adopted? There is a good IDE similar to Visual Studio, and it would provide a good dev platform for application projects. Is there any review of Mono to know more about its viability? regards, Senthil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:18 PM, senthilraja P [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I was going through Mono and Mono develop few days back. It was said, that mono is a .NET port for linux, spearheaded by Novell. Can Mono be an efficient tool for commercial projects? If its so, why its not widely adopted? There is a good IDE similar to Visual Studio, and it would provide a good dev platform for application projects. Is there any review of Mono to know more about its viability? Even myself looking forward for the same, I have client you have existing Linux servers. They also have skilled .net developers. Is it feasible for them to host .net application in Linux using mono. is it a proved one or still a fiction, if so, it could save handsome money for my clients and i could happily port everthing to linux box. cheers Ravi Jaya ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
is it a proved one or still a fiction, if so, it could save handsome money for my clients and i could happily port everthing to linux box. As per the mono website, (http://www.mono-project.com/Software), two applications developed in it caught my attention - http://www.splendidcrm.com/ (a port of sugar crm) - Deki Wiki I feel, if Mono is really feasible, we can establish it for RAD for some realtime business applications.. Regards, Senthil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
On 29-Aug-08, at 12:48 PM, Ravi Jaya wrote: Is there any review of Mono to know more about its viability? Even myself looking forward for the same, I have client you have existing Linux servers. They also have skilled .net developers. Is it feasible for them to host .net application in Linux using mono. is it a proved one or still a fiction, if so, it could save handsome money for my clients and i could happily port everthing to linux box. also look at dotgnu - I think it is closer to dotnet as it uses C# -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Efficiency of Projects in Mono
also look at dotgnu - I think it is closer to dotnet as it uses C# I just googled for comparing dotgnu and mono.. the following articles are interesting http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/02/11/mono_and_dotgnu_whats/ http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3361991 It seems, only Microsoft is going to get benefitted by either Mono or DotGNU.. But clearly, Mono is in an advantageous position.. A lot of commercial applications has been developed using Mono.. particularly the dekiwiki from mindtouch.com looks promising.. Any alternate views? particularly on whether microsoft will get benefitted out of .NET port to linux? Regards, Senthil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
