Re: [Ilugc] ISRO Bhuvan: Not for GNU/Linux users

2009-08-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Friday 14 Aug 2009, Guru Prasath wrote:
  The sad news is that ISRO Bhuvan is not for us GNU/Linux users.
  Their website http://bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/ says:
 
  Mininimum System Requirements:
 
 * Operating System: Windows XP/Vista;CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz+ or
  AMD 2400xp+ ;System Memory (RAM): 512MB ; Hard Disk: 2GB free space
  ;Network Speed: 768 Kbits/sec; Graphics Card: 3D-capable with 32MB
  of VRAM; Screen: 1280x1024,32-bit True Color;
 * To browse Bhuvan, you require the Bhuvan Plug-in which can be
   downloaded from this website, after registration and you will
   also need DirectX 9.0 or higher version
   (www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/) and MS .NET framework 2.0
   or above for installing the plug-in. Please note that the
  Bhuvan Plug-in can be installed with administrative privileges
  only.

 Simple question. To access a government service, why should I need to
 buy a proprietary product. This is not possible in other government
 services. Say for example,

1. Only VISA card is allowed to buy items from ration shop.
2. You can use only reliance mobile to make calls to government
 offices.


 Does Public Interest Litigation solves the issue?

I am also of the opinion that a PIL would help but it would be a long 
drawn process with a lot of evidence collection to present to the 
courts such that the presiding  judge rules favor of open standards.  
Evidence collection and a good council - they cost money.  Who will 
foot the bill?

The problem is with the tender process.  To the best of my knowlege 
there is no requirement that the application must work to open 
standards.

There has been some movement in the DIT in the direction of using open 
standards but the draft text has enough cope out clauses for vendors 
to use as escape.

-- 
Arun Khan

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Re: [Ilugc] ISRO Bhuvan: Not for GNU/Linux users

2009-08-15 Thread senthilraja P
On 8/15/09, Bhargav Prasanna bhargavprasa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Guru Prasathapras...@gmail.com wrote:

 I sent them feedback. And this is what i got:

 Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e10'

 [Microsoft][SQL Native Client]COUNT field incorrect or syntax error

 /Bhuvan/WebClient/PresentationLayer/WebClient/feedback.asp, line 214


I checked this site, and the first thing i noted was, it was developed in
ASP.   Its sad, that they could not even develop properly, in the user
friendly RAD model.

Regards,
senthil
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Re: [Ilugc] ISRO Bhuvan: Not for GNU/Linux users

2009-08-14 Thread Guru Prasath

 The sad news is that ISRO Bhuvan is not for us GNU/Linux users. Their
 website http://bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/ says:

 Mininimum System Requirements:

* Operating System: Windows XP/Vista;CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz+ or AMD
  2400xp+ ;System Memory (RAM): 512MB ; Hard Disk: 2GB free space
  ;Network Speed: 768 Kbits/sec; Graphics Card: 3D-capable with
  32MB of VRAM; Screen: 1280x1024,32-bit True Color;
* To browse Bhuvan, you require the Bhuvan Plug-in which can be
  downloaded from this website, after registration and you will
  also need DirectX 9.0 or higher version
  (www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/) and MS .NET framework 2.0
  or above for installing the plug-in. Please note that the Bhuvan
  Plug-in can be installed with administrative privileges only.


Simple question. To access a government service, why should I need to buy a
proprietary product. This is not possible in other government services. Say
for example,

   1. Only VISA card is allowed to buy items from ration shop.
   2. You can use only reliance mobile to make calls to government offices.


Does Public Interest Litigation solves the issue?

Regards
Guru Prasath
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Re: [Ilugc] ISRO Bhuvan: Not for GNU/Linux users

2009-08-14 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Guru Prasathapras...@gmail.com wrote:

 Simple question. To access a government service, why should I need to buy a
 proprietary product. This is not possible in other government services. Say
 for example,

   1. Only VISA card is allowed to buy items from ration shop.
   2. You can use only reliance mobile to make calls to government offices.


 Does Public Interest Litigation solves the issue?

 Regards
 Guru Prasath
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I sent them feedback. And this is what i got:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e10'

[Microsoft][SQL Native Client]COUNT field incorrect or syntax error

/Bhuvan/WebClient/PresentationLayer/WebClient/feedback.asp, line 214


-- 
Cheers,
Bhargav Prasanna
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[Ilugc] ISRO Bhuvan: Not for GNU/Linux users

2009-08-13 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear ILUGC,

The sad news is that ISRO Bhuvan is not for us GNU/Linux users. Their
website http://bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/ says:

Mininimum System Requirements:

* Operating System: Windows XP/Vista;CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz+ or AMD
  2400xp+ ;System Memory (RAM): 512MB ; Hard Disk: 2GB free space
  ;Network Speed: 768 Kbits/sec; Graphics Card: 3D-capable with
  32MB of VRAM; Screen: 1280x1024,32-bit True Color;
* To browse Bhuvan, you require the Bhuvan Plug-in which can be
  downloaded from this website, after registration and you will
  also need DirectX 9.0 or higher version
  (www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/) and MS .NET framework 2.0
  or above for installing the plug-in. Please note that the Bhuvan
  Plug-in can be installed with administrative privileges only.

So much for my expectations. I'll just continue using Google Maps.

Kumar
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Re: [Ilugc] ISRO Bhuvan: Not for GNU/Linux users

2009-08-13 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:17:07PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
 Dear ILUGC,
 
 The sad news is that ISRO Bhuvan is not for us GNU/Linux users. Their
 website http://bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/ says:
 
 Mininimum System Requirements:
 
 * Operating System: Windows XP/Vista;CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz+ or AMD
   2400xp+ ;System Memory (RAM): 512MB ; Hard Disk: 2GB free space
   ;Network Speed: 768 Kbits/sec; Graphics Card: 3D-capable with
   32MB of VRAM; Screen: 1280x1024,32-bit True Color;
 * To browse Bhuvan, you require the Bhuvan Plug-in which can be
   downloaded from this website, after registration and you will
   also need DirectX 9.0 or higher version
   (www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/) and MS .NET framework 2.0
   or above for installing the plug-in. Please note that the Bhuvan
   Plug-in can be installed with administrative privileges only.
 
 So much for my expectations. I'll just continue using Google Maps.

And the FAQ answers my question even more clearly:

Can I run Bhuvan on Mac OS and Linux?
No at the moment Bhuvan can run only on windows system and is
optimised for IE 6. or higher.

Kumar
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Re: [Ilugc] ISRO Bhuvan: Not for GNU/Linux users

2009-08-13 Thread Arun SAG
Hi,

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Kumar Appaiah a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.inwrote:

  Can I run Bhuvan on Mac OS and Linux?
 No at the moment Bhuvan can run only on windows system and is
 optimised for IE 6. or higher.


Most of their products are vendor locked
http://lists.fosscom.in/pipermail/network-fosscom.in/2009-August/001031.html

-- 
A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
-Fighting 4 Freedom-
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