Re: [Ilugc] Legal issues with selling Open Source software

2013-04-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Mayan Choudhary
 wrote:

>
> I hope this is the correct forum for this discussion. If not please point
> me to the correct ilist and ignore this email.
>
> I have been doing some reading on legal issues in selling open source OS (
> Fedora / Ubuntu ). However I still have some questions unanswered. I tried
> contacting both Canonical and RedHat but did not get any response from them
> . Below are some of my queries which hopefully I might be able to find
> answers to on this ilist :
>
> * Can I sell ubuntu/fedora as it is on my website. I would not directly be
> selling the OS but only the services around it . However can I have the OS
> uploaded on my website ?

It depends on the OS.  This would be the equivalent of mirroring free
or for a small charge e.g. selling DVDs of the ISO files.   The
community versions (to the best of my knowledge) can be distributed
w/o any approval.  This may not hold true for the commercial versions
from Redhat and Novell, they give eval versions with keys for trials.
 Each distro has some kind of distribution policy, you should read
that policy.

> Also is it illegal to say that "Our company XYZ
> provides support for Ubuntu/Fedora ?

No but you cannot claim that you are some kind of partner with the
respective company unless you have a proper paper contract.

>
> * Can I use their logos on my website without Canonical/RedHat's consent ?

Wow,  these are trade marks.

Suppose you had a company with a logo upon which you have spend
time/money to build a brand name.  Would you like some un-associated
entity to use your logo?   Short answer NO.

>
> * In order to use Ubuntu/Fedora do I have to get rid of all the
> Ubuntu/Fedora logos from the ISO and then upload it on the website ?

Read the distribution policy of respective distro, there is no one
blanket answer that covers everything.

> There are lot of apps to create a ubuntu based distro however I was
> wondering if there is one which can let us get rid of only the Logos/Splash
> Screen. The ones we see during installation and during boot and all the
> other that are there on the system ) .

Look at the CentOS model which is binary compatible of RHEL without
the trade mark / logos

> * Any other trademark violation that I should be looking at ?

Consult a lawyer who specializes in patent, trade mark, intellectual
property etc.  (seriously).
We are mostly techies here.

>
> * Any more questions that I should be asking ?

A competent lawyer should be able to help with this.

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Re: [Ilugc] Legal issues with selling Open Source software

2013-04-15 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Mayan Choudhary
 wrote:
| I tried
| contacting both Canonical and RedHat but did not get any response from them
\--

Did you write to Fedora Legal?

  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/legal

SK

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Re: [Ilugc] Legal issues with selling Open Source software

2013-04-15 Thread Joerg Simon
On 15.04.2013 18:23, Mayan Choudhary wrote:
> I hope this is the correct forum for this discussion. If not please point
> me to the correct ilist and ignore this email.
> I have been doing some reading on legal issues in selling open source OS (
> Fedora / Ubuntu ). However I still have some questions unanswered. I tried
> contacting both Canonical and RedHat but did not get any response from them

Fedora related:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors

please also read the statement regarding trademarks and follow the link
to the trademark guidelines as well

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[Ilugc] Legal issues with selling Open Source software

2013-04-15 Thread Mayan Choudhary
Hello Everybody

I hope this is the correct forum for this discussion. If not please point
me to the correct ilist and ignore this email.

I have been doing some reading on legal issues in selling open source OS (
Fedora / Ubuntu ). However I still have some questions unanswered. I tried
contacting both Canonical and RedHat but did not get any response from them
. Below are some of my queries which hopefully I might be able to find
answers to on this ilist :

* Can I sell ubuntu/fedora as it is on my website. I would not directly be
selling the OS but only the services around it . However can I have the OS
uploaded on my website ? Also is it illegal to say that "Our company XYZ
provides support for Ubuntu/Fedora ?

* Can I use their logos on my website without Canonical/RedHat's consent ?

* In order to use Ubuntu/Fedora do I have to get rid of all the
Ubuntu/Fedora logos from the ISO and then upload it on the website ? (
There are lot of apps to create a ubuntu based distro however I was
wondering if there is one which can let us get rid of only the Logos/Splash
Screen. The ones we see during installation and during boot and all the
other that are there on the system ) .

* Any other trademark violation that I should be looking at ?

* Any more questions that I should be asking ?


Regards
Mayan
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