Re: [Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-23 Thread Sivasankar Chander
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
> > For normal students, the plethora of softwares loaded in suse may be a
> > burden..  they can in turn use ubuntu linux..
>
> Using virtualisation of course!
>
> Elcot has actually anticipated the need for an alternative distro, and
preloaded Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron as an option, accessible as a
multiboot option under Grub. It's already there and works out of the
box, but some apps (e.g. WxCam) that are preloaded in Suse 10.1
may not be there in the Ubuntu preload. There's nothing to prevent
anyone from installing whatever they want in either distro, or adding yet
another distro to the multiboot options.

Of course, one could also install a zillion distros (including non-free
ones)
into separate VMs using VirtualBox. Or use Qemu, Xen, etc.

-Siva
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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-23 Thread Arun Khan
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2008, Shrinivasan T wrote:
> Friends.
>
> The laptop provided by ELCOT is preloaded with OpenSuse and Ubuntu
> linux.
>
> But most of the people dont know how to use them.
>
> They struggle a lot little little things like bluetooth, installing
> apps, games, etc
>
> It will be so nice, if we give a one day seminar on ow to use linux
> for all elcot laptop users.

Commendable objective but suggest you do it through ELCOT sponsorship.  
AFAIK, the laptops are going to students all over TN.

> It is necessary too. I see more users remove linux and put windows
> with local service engineers.

Closed minds will *never* learn new things.  With such people you are 
wasting your time trying to show them an alternate way.  Let them 
exercise their "freedom" to choose.

> It is our responsible thing to urge and train people to use linux.

This raises the point are "LUG members expected to be tech. support 
for anything open source?" when anyone who puts out something on 
Linux/OSS platform w/o support for it.

> So, please arrange a tutorial day.

Since you have raised the idea please take lead in this 
initiative.

-- 
Arun Khan

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread Arun Khan
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2008, senthilraja P wrote:

> I tried to find apache server in the installation, but could not
> find.. Software installation is little bit difficult in suse..

What kind of software did you find difficult to install?  IIRC, Apache 
and it's common modules are included in the media.

Did you try using Yast?   There is a whole bunch of repos you can add in 
Yast to pull software (just like in Ubuntu).

-- 
Arun Khan


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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread Arun Khan
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2008, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:

>
> Why would a general user want to run an apache server on a laptop?
>

These laptops are for students, presumably most from the IT streams.  
They will need an web server if they get into web applications.  From 
what I saw @ FOSSConf08, > 90% of the projects were web apps.

-- 
Arun Khan

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, senthilraja P wrote:
> >>VirtualBox is there. but they dont know about it.
> I tried installing XP inside virtual box.  But the size of display area
> inside the virtual machine is small..

Use it with VNC or rdesktop then. Also try kvm which should be faster
since this laptop supports hardware virtualisation.

> For normal students, the plethora of softwares loaded in suse may be a
> burden..  they can in turn use ubuntu linux..

Using virtualisation of course!

> I tried to find apache server in the installation, but could not find..

Why would a general user want to run an apache server on a laptop?

Kapil.
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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread senthilraja P
>>VirtualBox is there. but they dont know about it.

I tried installing XP inside virtual box.  But the size of display area
inside the virtual machine is small..

But other than that, suse linux is very nice to use with all pre-loaded
softwares.

For normal students, the plethora of softwares loaded in suse may be a
burden..  they can in turn use ubuntu linux..

I tried to find apache server in the installation, but could not find..
Software installation is little bit difficult in suse..

Regards,
Senthil
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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Shrinivasan T wrote:
> It will be so nice, if we give a one day seminar on ow to use linux
> for all elcot laptop users.

This is a good suggestion. Why not also video(s) of hands-on usage from
someone who is using this machine for these tasks?

Kapil.
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[Ilugc] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends.

The laptop provided by ELCOT is preloaded with OpenSuse and Ubuntu linux.

But most of the people dont know how to use them.

They struggle a lot little little things like bluetooth, installing
apps, games, etc

It will be so nice, if we give a one day seminar on ow to use linux
for all elcot laptop users.

It is necessary too. I see more users remove linux and put windows
with local service engineers.

VirtualBox is there. but they dont know about it.

It is our responsible thing to urge and train people to use linux.

So, please arrange a tutorial day.
We can get all the email ids from elcot.

Waiting for the Linux Laptop Festival.

-- 
dear,
T.Shrinivasan


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