Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-23 Thread pavithran
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Bharathi Subramanian 
sbhara...@midascomm.com wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Arun SAG wrote:

  LOL MOU with Microsoft to aid teachers in teaching FOSS.

 Joke of Year 2009. As IT became a part of political agenda in IT Super
 Power(?) country, we may hear lot more jokes like this, in the coming
 days.


This might be hard to believe . But looks like all major political parties
are using/promoting FOSS !
Congress:
Has no special agenda for FOSS .
Uses PHP for it's webpage http://www.aicc.org.in . The site according to an
article in globalvoicesonline is still in web 1.0
 But it's recent andhra pradesh site http://votecong.com/ also uses PHP and
runs Joomla content Management site on it . This site has some blogs of
political  leaders but doesn't allow users to comment on it !

BJP:
released a special agenda for FOSS .
http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf
Uses foss on it's site www.bjp.org .BJP  has pledged to use open source
software and support open standards .
BJP used FOSS for cutting down costs , whats more innovative from BJP is
using a open source repository management (eprints ) for it's documents .
Appointed special IT incharge for every loksabha seat ( surprise )

CPIM:
uses mailman , in it's manifesto http://cpim.org/manifesto.pdf clearly
states that  Promoting free software and other such new technologies, which
are free from monopoly ownership through copyrights or patents; “knowledge
commons” should be promoted across disciplines, like
biotechnology and drug discovery
The new election site http://vote.cpim.org/ runs on drupal . The website
they state is done enttirely on free software and is contributed by
volunteers from Kochi free software notably also states that it has a  Free
software and Research team 

 DMK: I can't understand the site www.dmk.in much but it looks pretty
old Viewed
best with IE 4.0  Netscape 4.0 and Above with 800x600 screen resolution 
LOL , it makes me download a tamil font ,which I am not sure is a free font
? (amachu do check it ;) )

AIADMK: couldn't find a official website :(

All said and done check
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/03/22/indias-first-digital-elections/

So what do we observe, three main political parties using FOSS , though
little they ARE somehow dependent on FOSS . Other than kerala we haven't
seen much of government support in FOSS.
Suddenly Microsoft comes and tells that it is cutting down costs for
governement and these people go and sign a MOU with it .
What I would like to tell is FOSS is not a cheap software for cutting costs
, it is quality software for which code has been contributed and tested by
lot of volunteers :)
Finally I just wish BOSS was properly designed and implemented in all the
governement offices all over India .

Regards,
Pavithran

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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-19 Thread senthilraja P
Recently, i heard from my neighbour that microsoft is selecting students
from various engineering colleges for training abroad..  my neighbour's
daughter  also got selected, and they were so thrilled upon this..

While i could understand the tactics of microsoft, i could not explain it to
them as they might not understand..  Microsoft is canvassing by the lure of
travel abroad and also creating a hype..

Regards,
senthil

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://sagarun.googlepages.com/MicrosoftLiveedu.pdf

 See how far Microsoft penetrates inside poor engineering colleges in
 India.Pleases HOD,Principals,MSP's with windows mobile ;) (aka: gentle
 bribe)

 Regards
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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-18 Thread Arun SAG


 Was there an attempt from people from the Community/ FOSSY corporates
 to meet the government officials. politicians, identifying the right
 person to get FOSS done at the government level?

 Was there an attempt of this kind? If not it is likely that M$ will
 push and rush through.


yes (i guess),
http://www.public-software.in/FOSS-manifesto

But personally i feel this isn't enough, we should have opposed/protested
against things like  this
http://www.hindu.com/2006/06/15/stories/2006061517520700.htm

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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-18 Thread Arun SAG

 I remember one mail in the list about Microsoft's open source web
 page.


http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/  (The page has been updated for
bizspark ;) )



Regards
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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-18 Thread ராஜேந்திரன்

M$ can stop these types of grade-3 activities and release M$-Linux!

With Linux initiative it can generate huge revenues through services
Need not lay off employees
Can utilize its excessive workforce for OSS RD.


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[Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-17 Thread Arun SAG
Many people has admired on L.K Advani's IT vision.

It seems like Gujarat is making an U-Turn
.http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/project-on-it-upgradation-in-schools-makes-no-headway-in-gujarat/434979/
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/project-on-it-upgradation-in-schools-makes-no-headway-in-gujarat/434979/
Conflicts of opinion between education department and IT department.

LOL MOU with Microsoft to aid teachers in teaching FOSS. (this shows
politicians dont know a heck about foss, or M$ might have bribed them (if u
sign MOU with software gaint you get publicity for sure ) )

ZD-net covers it extensively http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3718

Find out who are the enimies to BJP if they promote
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/MS-top-telcos-may-be-hit/articleshow/4266133.cms

Seems like microsoft is on FIRE
BizSparkhttp://blogs.livemint.com/blogs/incubator/archive/2008/12/17/microsoft-india-launches-bizspark-for-startups.aspx
,DreamSpark http://www.dreamsparkindia.com And Lot of Sparks to burn
competition !! :(

Just FYI

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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-17 Thread Ashok Gautham
 The IT Department wants free and open source software (FOSS), while the
 Education Department is eager for Microsoft.

:o

Upside Down Cake!

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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-17 Thread pavithran
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:



 Seems like microsoft is on FIRE
 BizSpark
 http://blogs.livemint.com/blogs/incubator/archive/2008/12/17/microsoft-india-launches-bizspark-for-startups.aspx
 
 ,DreamSpark http://www.dreamsparkindia.com And Lot of Sparks to burn
 competition !! :(


M$ will never stop trying (LOL)
M$ might have realised that SME 's are going fastly towards FOSS to cut down
costs expecially in this recession environment . This might  be one step to
get their businesses back, hope they wont succeed ;)

Regards,
Pavithran

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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-17 Thread ம . ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many people has admired on L.K Advani's IT vision.

 It seems like Gujarat is making an U-Turn
 .http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/project-on-it-upgradation-in-schools-makes-no-headway-in-gujarat/434979/
 http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/project-on-it-upgradation-in-schools-makes-no-headway-in-gujarat/434979/
 Conflicts of opinion between education department and IT department.

 LOL MOU with Microsoft to aid teachers in teaching FOSS. (this shows
 politicians dont know a heck about foss, or M$ might have bribed them (if u
 sign MOU with software gaint you get publicity for sure ) )


People from Microsoft approach government and do whatever (one could
tag it as lobby, persuade, sell, bribe, market etc.,) for their
products.

Was there an attempt from people from the Community/ FOSSY corporates
to meet the government officials. politicians, identifying the right
person to get FOSS done at the government level?

Was there an attempt of this kind? If not it is likely that M$ will
push and rush through.

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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-17 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:
| LOL MOU with Microsoft to aid teachers in teaching FOSS. (this shows
| politicians dont know a heck about foss, or M$ might have bribed them (if u
| sign MOU with software gaint you get publicity for sure ) )
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