Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
Venkatraman S wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, sohail genius sohailgen...@yahoo.comwrote: But please do remember i am a newbie not a techie. Probably, you can start with SICP(google for this term) and understand the fundamentals of computing. This would take a couple of months to a year. Try to understand subjects such as computer architecture, networking, data structures etc also. Honestly, why do you want to frighten the kid? ;-) I would rather suggest playing around with what he has claimed to have learnt. [1] Start creating small apps which would be useful to you, like a mini-diary, a blog, a photo album, a contact list, etc. [2] Run it on your local machine and use it. Try learning more and better ways to the same and keep your creations evolving. [3] When you feel you have got enough of exposure, you can start to take small tasks from people as part-time. [4] For this, you have to invest in participation and getting to know people, parallel to your learning process. Join some PHP forums and mailing list, answer to queries, listen to what others say, what others are doing. [5] Improve your communication. Check this list on how people are asking questions, replying questions, etc. [6] Participate in LUG meets and other UG meetings, get to know people, share experiences. Well, along the way you will get to know a lot of things like SICP. but you have to decide what to master and what to merely have an exposure. There is no generalized best way to do it. You have to try, learn and make your own best ways. -- With Regards, Parthan technofreak (2FF01026) http://technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, sohail genius sohailgen...@yahoo.com wrote: or is there some thing else that is crucial to web development that is required. knowledge of Javascript! ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, why do you want to frighten the kid? ;-) Why do you think he's a kid! mano ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
HI Friends, Plz help us to learn PHP with step by step... Which is very usefull for us. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Mano manoka...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, why do you want to frighten the kid? ;-) Why do you think he's a kid! mano ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- www.opennetguru.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
[1] Start creating small apps which would be useful to you, like a mini-diary, a blog, a photo album, a contact list, etc. [2] Run it on your local machine and use it. Try learning more and better ways to the same and keep your creations evolving. [3] When you feel you have got enough of exposure, you can start to take small tasks from people as part-time. [4] For this, you have to invest in participation and getting to know people, parallel to your learning process. Join some PHP forums and mailing list, answer to queries, listen to what others say, what others are doing. [5] Improve your communication. Check this list on how people are asking questions, replying questions, etc. [6] Participate in LUG meets and other UG meetings, get to know people, share experiences. I agree with this. Also you can start playing around CMS. Start with joomla then move on to drupal, moodle etc. Subscribe to web technology based blog and tutorial websites RSS feeds. All the best. -- Thanks a lot - http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
sivaji j.g wrote: Start with joomla then move on to drupal, moodle etc. Uh-huh. From my perspective, that's a very bad place to start. Sure they're popular, but I've seen programmers permanently scarred by the 'php mindset'. They can't grok good app design if it hits them on their head. Perhaps SICP is overkill, but it's not such a bad place to start. Sohail, I would recommend you aim higher - go learn Ruby or Python. Start with self-respecting web-frameworks like Rails or Django. They won't be as easy to get started with as PHP, but it will be worth your effort. Oh yes, if you want to get anywhere in modern web development at all, take Mano's advice and don't forget to master Javascript :). V. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] to learn web development.
I am new to the open source concepts but find it fascinating. I had installed ubuntu8.10 and from then my system never hanged even once. I want to know the structure and process of a website project. I had knowledge of html and i have now learnt php from a book(for dummies series). Can people tell me how to proceed? what more to learn and which other books to read? i have installed php5 and apache2 on my ubuntu8.10system. Or give me some assignments in php? or is there some thing else that is crucial to web development that is required. Also to contribute to the open source movement i want to begin with doing documentation for any project or review it as i am quick at pointing out typos. Can someone give me a project to document or review its documentation?. But please do remember i am a newbie not a techie. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, sohail genius sohailgen...@yahoo.comwrote: But please do remember i am a newbie not a techie. Probably, you can start with SICP(google for this term) and understand the fundamentals of computing. This would take a couple of months to a year. Try to understand subjects such as computer architecture, networking, data structures etc also. Then, take a language such as Python (which has good library support and an active community) and understand the language and then probably you can move to webframeworks in that language (like Django). I might have missed many details in the above , but SICP is pretty good to start off. The entire flow above will take some time(from a minimum of a year to a few). Once, the prerequisites are satisfied see the projects in the community that need volunteers and write some _quality_ code and start enjoying. -V- http://twitter.com/venkat83 ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to learn web development.
Hi sohail, 2009/2/9 sohail genius sohailgen...@yahoo.com: I am new to the open source concepts but find it fascinating. Welcome. I had installed ubuntu8.10 and from then my system never hanged even once. Fine. I want to know the structure and process of a website project. I had knowledge of html and i have now learnt php from a book(for dummies series). Are you a student? Self learning is so much needed to really rock in the field. Can people tell me how to proceed? what more to learn and which other books to read? i have installed php5 and apache2 on my ubuntu8.10system. If you are into web development, make sure that you are well in the following areas HTML CSS Javascript Database server side scripting language - like PHP There are plenty of books available in internet. Learn the Basics first. Try with simple examples. Or give me some assignments in php? or is there some thing else that is crucial to web development that is required. If you have enough knowledge, you will automatically get freelance projects. Take them and finish them in time. Also to contribute to the open source movement i want to begin with doing documentation for any project or review it as i am quick at pointing out typos. Can someone give me a project to document or review its documentation?. Nice to see this interest. Sourceforge.net launchpad.net have thousands of projects. Join in any project and start your contribution. But please do remember i am a newbie not a techie. Wishes. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.wordpress.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
