[ilugd] Volunteer, Demo and Speaker Meet
Hi, Can the volunteers, demonstrators(?) and speakers get together for a pre-event Meet tomorrow (Wednesday the 23rd) at Connaught Place around 7pm? I hope CP would be fine for people coming from all parts of Delhi. Suggestions for a venue in CP where 10-15 people can sit for an hour or so without having to dish out too much money welcome. If you know a Barista or a Cafe Coffee Day or such-like which remains either empty of filled with people one can easily intimidate into giving up their seats please mail the list fast! Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Which mirror to use?
Chirpy said on Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:39:32PM +0530,: of many mirrors to get the software. What general guideline can one follow to select the mirror site. Physical proximity obviosly does not work. Its something to do about transatlantic cables, gateways and such but what exactly? Compare output of trace route for each site. mtr/mtr-tiny will be a better alternative if you cannot understand output of traceroute. -- Mahesh T. Pai http://paivakil.port5.com free - (adj) able to act at will; not hampered; not under compulsion or restraint; free from obligations or duties; not bound to servitude; at liberty. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] grub (in pata) can't boot winxp (in sata)
R.Vijayaraghavan said on Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 10:38:50AM +0530,: (I had already sent this mail but with no subject and I guess, that's why I got no replies.) It is also possible that this question was answered in a different context sometime back. Read the archives ;) I think you should be using the `map' directive in the entry to boot xp. Something like map (hd0) (hd3) map (hd3) (hd0) Read the grub documentation possibly in /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/html/ depending on your distro. Primary Master: Hard drive with Fedora Core 2 and grub Secondary Master: Cd-rom drive Secondary Slave: dvd-rom drive SATA Port 1: SATA drive with Windows XP. -- Mahesh T. Pai http://paivakil.port5.com Encryption: A powerful algorithmic encoding technique employed in the creation of computer manuals. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] LDD 2k4 account summary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here's the current status of accounts for LDD 2k4. I've tried to make it look professional (hey, I'm not a CA!) Account Dr Cr Notes ~~~ ~~ ~~ ~ From Srijan Tech 5000 From ILUGD kitty 11651 emergency only From Kishore personal A/C 3000desperate only To poster printing1300 To Jamia for misc expenses1000 Balance 17351 SPENDABLE balance 2700 Have given Rs 1000 to Jamia for miscellaneous expenses like hiring of tables and chairs, bouquets for the Chief Guest and Guest of Honour, etc. We're trying to avoid spending from the kitty, and we'll only spend Kishore's money if we're completely desperate. Of course, if it comes to that I'll chuck in a few K too (I'm not as rich as Kishore ;) We have yet to receive cash from eSys (Rs. 10K promised, which goes for the snacks and tea). No other money confirmed yet, though we're ever hopeful. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFBT8W2yWjQ78xo0X8RAsslAKCTGsryWDI0HubSi/oWOwBoYlWGagCfeF+8 0IfcE3q+ztetf/CETF4nrn4= =/9tK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Volunteer, Demo and Speaker Meet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, If you're a volunteer, speaker or manning a demo at the Linux Demo Day 2004, September 25, please make it convenient to attend the pre-event meeting. Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 Time: 19:00; please be punctual Venue: Coffee Home Baba Kharak Singh Marg Next to Gujarat Handloom Opposite Hanuman Mandir Connaught Place Agenda: Finalise plans for LDD 2k4. Make list of pending issues. Action plan to tackle same. Coffee, snacks and chat Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFBT8nEyWjQ78xo0X8RAol2AJ4tOk5rdnxRFafHj54sPz6vBWB41ACdHFJd qjCATet28o5y+U/EKV7JR/4= =WEGO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Volunteer, Demo and Speaker Meet
Too far for me!! I would have to travel from Gurgaon to Cp and CP to Faridabad. I can manage South Delhi! anand - Original Message - From: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:59 am Subject: [ilugd] Volunteer, Demo and Speaker Meet Hi, Can the volunteers, demonstrators(?) and speakers get together for a pre-event Meet tomorrow (Wednesday the 23rd) at Connaught Place around 7pm? I hope CP would be fine for people coming from all parts of Delhi. Anand Shankar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Volunteer, Demo and Speaker Meet
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 13:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too far for me!! I would have to travel from Gurgaon to Cp and CP to Faridabad. I can manage South Delhi! anand -- Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Volunteer, Demo and Speaker Meet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anand == anandsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anand Too far for me!! I would have to travel from Gurgaon to Cp Anand and CP to Faridabad. I can manage South Delhi! anand I'd personally have preferred South Delhi too :) but we have volunteers from all over the city and it's not fair to ask them all to converge on one part of it. This way everyone gets to travel more or less the same distance -- Karl Marx and the greatest good of the greatest number, etc. Sorry you won't be able to make it -- try getting away early from office if you can manage. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFBT+X6yWjQ78xo0X8RAhPvAJ4wICHyjL78kaO9H/At64a+p4akugCfcTxD OyT6lOcnX2Za2rwlvLXh3Sg= =OnLh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Bapu Kuti se Bazaar ki aur: ek Khoj lecture on 2nd October
this year's gandhi peace foundation's gandhi jayanti lecture is entitled as above. the lecture will be in hindi, by well known author and writer rajni bakshi (she is best known for her book bapu kuti). she has been following the open source movement for quite sometime and also has interviewed stallman (rms), raymond (esr) etc. i believe that her lecture will partly dwell on the economics/market paradigm of the open source/free software movement, and examine how it may actually be a reasonable bridge between gandhi's village (small is beautiful) economy vision and the modern reality of a capitalist/globalised multinational dominated economy. but of course, i am second guessing the content of her lecture, which we will know only on 2nd oct. details - date: Saturday, October 2nd time: 4:15 pm venue: Gandhi Peace Foundation, 223 Deendayal Upadyaya Marg, New Delhi - 110002 phone: 3230-8810 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] sendmail query
Hi Manoj, --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to create a rule on SendMail server on linux or solaris to forward all SMTP requests from a particular application server to a single mail account. Use procmail to do the job. Kapil __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] [Fwd: [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved]
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From: Atul Chitnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux Bangalore/2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:43:55 +0530
All:
OK, this is a dificult subject, so please forgive me if I don't quite get
this right on the first attempt:
That Linux Bangalore has now become India's largest technical conference,
and may even be one the largest in Asia, is now a fairly established fact
(numbers, my friends, numbers).
What many people fail to realise, however, is that LB is not supposed to
be a technical conference alone - it is supposed to be (and in fact is) a
community event - created by and for the community and driven by it.
Over the years, we have been trying to get Linux and FOSS user groups from
across India to use the event to draw attention to themselves. Given the
huge national and international audiences who converge at this event, this
makes a lot of sense.
Now I can understand it if larger LUGs don't feel that they need this kind
of exposure, since they are well established in their own rights. Not that
we wouldn't love having them participate - it is just that they seem to
feel that they don't need to. This probably explains why the Mumbai and
Delhi LUGs are so poorly represented every year at the event (though there
is no shortage of *speakers* from these places!).
But our focus isn't really on the big LUGs - not even on the Bangalore
Linux User Group (which, as we all know, is probably the single largest in
India) or the Chennai LUG (the oldest and best established LUG in the
country).
We would like the smaller LUGs, such as Belgaum, Goa, Coimbatore,
Trivandrum, Bijapur, Vizag, Pune, Nagpur, Mysore, {insert comprehensive
list of LUGs here} etc. etc. to be seen and highlighted.
This is made clear every year when Linux Bangalore is inaugurated not by
some big name in a tie, but by representatives from the various LUGs who
are attending the event. This is no gimmick - we have done this for three
years in succession, and will continue to do this even if $deity is a
chief guest at the event (in which case s/he will be *one* of the people
inaugurating the event).
So why this long note?
Because we need your help.
It is physically impossible for us to reach all the LUGs in India, but
using the network effect (you know a couple, and can contact them, they
know a couple each, and each contact them, and so on), it is possible to
reach a lot of people and let them know about *their* event!
It is a no-brainer getting technical people to attend, but that isn't the
sole reason for LB's existance. This is about the community as well.
As LB, we can offer LUGs some space at the expo, to tell people about
themselves and their activities (even if it is just some poster space, or
handouts), halls where they can meet with ther LUGs to discuss how they
can improve their memberships, activities, etc. and a chance to meet with
like-minded people.
These facilities have always been available to LUGs, and will be available
this year as well. All it needs is some prior planning.
What I'd like to do now is to have a discussion (and please, let's keep
the politics out of it) about how we can get the word out to the LUGs,
what is it that would keep them away, what would make them come, etc.
Over to you.
Atul
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[ilugd] [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved
All:
OK, this is a dificult subject, so please forgive me if I don't quite get
this right on the first attempt:
That Linux Bangalore has now become India's largest technical conference,
and may even be one the largest in Asia, is now a fairly established fact
(numbers, my friends, numbers).
What many people fail to realise, however, is that LB is not supposed to
be a technical conference alone - it is supposed to be (and in fact is) a
community event - created by and for the community and driven by it.
Over the years, we have been trying to get Linux and FOSS user groups from
across India to use the event to draw attention to themselves. Given the
huge national and international audiences who converge at this event, this
makes a lot of sense.
Now I can understand it if larger LUGs don't feel that they need this kind
of exposure, since they are well established in their own rights. Not that
we wouldn't love having them participate - it is just that they seem to
feel that they don't need to. This probably explains why the Mumbai and
Delhi LUGs are so poorly represented every year at the event (though there
is no shortage of *speakers* from these places!).
But our focus isn't really on the big LUGs - not even on the Bangalore
Linux User Group (which, as we all know, is probably the single largest in
India) or the Chennai LUG (the oldest and best established LUG in the
country).
We would like the smaller LUGs, such as Belgaum, Goa, Coimbatore,
Trivandrum, Bijapur, Vizag, Pune, Nagpur, Mysore, {insert comprehensive
list of LUGs here} etc. etc. to be seen and highlighted.
This is made clear every year when Linux Bangalore is inaugurated not by
some big name in a tie, but by representatives from the various LUGs who
are attending the event. This is no gimmick - we have done this for three
years in succession, and will continue to do this even if $deity is a
chief guest at the event (in which case s/he will be *one* of the people
inaugurating the event).
So why this long note?
Because we need your help.
It is physically impossible for us to reach all the LUGs in India, but
using the network effect (you know a couple, and can contact them, they
know a couple each, and each contact them, and so on), it is possible to
reach a lot of people and let them know about *their* event!
It is a no-brainer getting technical people to attend, but that isn't the
sole reason for LB's existance. This is about the community as well.
As LB, we can offer LUGs some space at the expo, to tell people about
themselves and their activities (even if it is just some poster space, or
handouts), halls where they can meet with ther LUGs to discuss how they
can improve their memberships, activities, etc. and a chance to meet with
like-minded people.
These facilities have always been available to LUGs, and will be available
this year as well. All it needs is some prior planning.
What I'd like to do now is to have a discussion (and please, let's keep
the politics out of it) about how we can get the word out to the LUGs,
what is it that would keep them away, what would make them come, etc.
Over to you.
Atul
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Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved]
From: Atul Chitnis To: Linux Bangalore/2004 Subject: [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:43:55 +0530 Over the years, we have been trying to get Linux and FOSS user groups from across India to use the event to draw attention to themselves. Given the huge national and international audiences who converge at this event, this makes a lot of sense. Now I can understand it if larger LUGs don't feel that they need this kind of exposure, since they are well established in their own rights. Not that we wouldn't love having them participate - it is just that they seem to feel that they don't need to. This probably explains why the Mumbai and Delhi LUGs are so poorly represented every year at the event (though there is no shortage of *speakers* from these places!). Atalji ...err.. Atulji :) is under a very wrong impression. My personal belief is that poor representation of Delhi LUG is because of physical distance. There is no conspiracy/ego thing about this. For those of us who cant afford air fares for reaching such conferences, this is generally a week long affair, in which a third of the time is spent on the train. How many people can afford that much time off from work every year? The best way to ensure a pan-indian participation is to keep rotating the event (like say Linux India 2004) in different state capitals every year. Till then, LB will be a predominantly Bangalore/Southern-India centric event attended by either people from nearby regions or by people who have the money or time. - Sandip P.S. Sorry for sounding petty, but I am just venting my frustation at not being able to attend any worthwhile Linux events(other than LA-2004) in the past 5+ years that I have been involved in the Indian Linux community, because of my limited means. P.S.2. This seems to be intended for all LUGs in India. I wonder why it wasnt posted in LIG first. -- Sandip Bhattacharya*Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com* Home: http://www.sandipb.net PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 Dungeons and Dragons is just a lot of Saxon Violence. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [LIG] Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved]
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: For those of us who cant afford air fares for reaching such conferences, this is generally a week long affair, in which a third of the time is spent on the train. How many people can afford that much time off from work every year? much shorter events like sanog - http://www.sanog.org - are available networking and dns mostly - though there's a heavy sysadmin etc component as well the next sanog will be jan 2005 in dhaka - close enough for the babu moshais from ilug-cal to attend :) [apnic / bill manning teaching dns, nsrc/uoregon teaching open source sysadmin, cisco and juniper teaching routing and bgp ... well worth attending] srs ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] BBC planning to open up its archives
Dear all, The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), one of the world's largest public service networks, will shortly launch what it hails as a pioneering new approach to public access rights, and it is turning to the open source community to contribute to its successful rollout... snip Read the whole story at :- http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/14/0715249 Regards VK = Hug the REALITY ;-) Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] grub (in pata) can't boot winxp (in sata)
I hazard a guess and I may be wrong! SATA support in Kernel 2.4 was recently backported from Kernel 2.6. Check out for SATA support in your kernel. - Original Message - From: R.Vijayaraghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:08 am Subject: [ilugd] grub (in pata) can't boot winxp (in sata) Anand Shankar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Learn how to quote ...
I found this great page http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html which teaches newbies how to reply/quote properly on the Usenet - applies to lists as well. I especially like http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.3 which explains very well why one should bottom post. I quote: [...] 2.3 Why should I place my response below the quoted text? Usually, the reading-flow is from left to right and from top to bottom, and people expect a chronological sequence similar to this. Especially people who are reading a lot of articles (and who therefore would qualify as the ideal person to answer your question) appreciate it if they can read at first the text to which you are referring. The quoted text is some kind of help to remember the topic, which of course will not work, if you place the quoted text below your response. Furthermore, that's the standard. This may sound as a weak argument, but since people are not used to reading the other way around, they have no idea what you are referring to and have to go back and forth between the referenced articles, have to jump between different articles and so on. In short - reading the article becomes more and more difficult - for people who read many articles it is reason enough to skip the entire article, if the context is not obvious. And besides: doesn't it look stupid to first get the answer and then see the question? (Aside from Jeopardy, of course.) [...] -- Sandip Bhattacharya* Puroga Technologies *[EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home: http://www.sandipb.net PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Unusually high search bot activity from MSN ...
Has any body else been experiencing this? From my web log stats, lug-delhi.org is facing an unusually high and disproportionate hits from the MSN bot this month. While there have been 1249 hits (24.07%) from MSN, Googlebot is at a distant third at 238 hits (4.59%). What gives? BTW, the second place is taken by a regular browser (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) at 243 hits. :) - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya*Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com* Home: http://www.sandipb.net PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] how to LOGOUT with basic authentication with apache server
hi all, i have authenticated my cgi directroy for some user with apache.they need to submit password but i can't logout them. i need to cloase all browser window. is there any way to acheive this. i am using fedora core 1. have a nice day. skdubey ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
