Re: [ilugd] Forums

2005-07-06 Thread nitin gupta

Hello Vivek,

I didn't knew that this is the attempt no 4. 
However, I would love to make it a success.
By now 3 LUG-D members have registered there, i would
love to see you all there.


Regards,
Nitin Gupta
CEO
Xaprio Solutions
http://www.xaprio.com/
http://www.xaprio.com/forums/

--- vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- nitin gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 
> > This is Nitin Gupta, some of you might know me.
> > I am a silent member of this prestigious Linux
> Users
> > Group from quiet a long time. I completely shifted
> > to
> > linux on january and one of the biggest fans of
> > linux.
> > I thaught of doing something for Linux and LUG-D,
> > but
> > was not getting, that how i can be of some help to
> > it.
> > Finally i got the idea of launching Forums for
> Linux
> > and LUG-D. I know thats not too much, but yeah, if
> > we
> > guys can work together using that forum as central
> > point, we can definitely do something for this
> > comunity and AlMighty Linux.
> > Some of you might think that i am doing it for
> Repo
> > or
> > hits on my website, but its not that.
> > I hope you guys would have a look at
> > http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ and would spend some
> > of
> > your expensive time to register there and to help
> it
> > become a success.
> > I am always open for suggestions.
> > I hope that most of you reading it would register
> in
> > the forums.
> 
> 
>  And this will atempt number four in past one year
> to
> launch a forum for ilugd
> 
> 
> regards
> VK
> 
> 
> I have studied in an university called life
> 
> 
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Re: [ilugd] Forums

2005-07-06 Thread vivek khurana
--- nitin gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> 
> This is Nitin Gupta, some of you might know me.
> I am a silent member of this prestigious Linux Users
> Group from quiet a long time. I completely shifted
> to
> linux on january and one of the biggest fans of
> linux.
> I thaught of doing something for Linux and LUG-D,
> but
> was not getting, that how i can be of some help to
> it.
> Finally i got the idea of launching Forums for Linux
> and LUG-D. I know thats not too much, but yeah, if
> we
> guys can work together using that forum as central
> point, we can definitely do something for this
> comunity and AlMighty Linux.
> Some of you might think that i am doing it for Repo
> or
> hits on my website, but its not that.
> I hope you guys would have a look at
> http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ and would spend some
> of
> your expensive time to register there and to help it
> become a success.
> I am always open for suggestions.
> I hope that most of you reading it would register in
> the forums.


 And this will atempt number four in past one year to
launch a forum for ilugd


regards
VK


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[ilugd] (fwd) [SECURITY] [ GLSA 200507-05 ] zlib: Buffer overflow

2005-07-06 Thread Raj Mathur
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A buffer overflow has been discovered in zlib, potentially resulting in
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Background
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zlib is a widely used free and patent unencumbered data compression
library.

Affected packages
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 Package/  Vulnerable  /Unaffected
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  1  sys-libs/zlib < 1.2.2-r1  >= 1.2.2-r1

Description
===

Tavis Ormandy of the Gentoo Linux Security Audit Team discovered a
buffer overflow in zlib. A bounds checking operation failed to take
invalid data into account, allowing a specifically malformed deflate
data stream to overrun a buffer.

Impact
==

An attacker could construct a malformed data stream, embedding it
within network communication or an application file format, potentially
resulting in the execution of arbitrary code when decoded by the
application using the zlib library.

Workaround
==

There is no known workaround at this time.

Resolution
==

All zlib users should upgrade to the latest version:

# emerge --sync
# emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose ">=sys-libs/zlib-1.2.2-r1"

References
==

  [ 1 ] CAN-2005-2096
http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-2096

Availability


This GLSA and any updates to it are available for viewing at
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[ilugd] Forums

2005-07-06 Thread nitin gupta
Hello,


This is Nitin Gupta, some of you might know me.
I am a silent member of this prestigious Linux Users
Group from quiet a long time. I completely shifted to
linux on january and one of the biggest fans of linux.
I thaught of doing something for Linux and LUG-D, but
was not getting, that how i can be of some help to it.
Finally i got the idea of launching Forums for Linux
and LUG-D. I know thats not too much, but yeah, if we
guys can work together using that forum as central
point, we can definitely do something for this
comunity and AlMighty Linux.
Some of you might think that i am doing it for Repo or
hits on my website, but its not that.
I hope you guys would have a look at
http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ and would spend some of
your expensive time to register there and to help it
become a success.
I am always open for suggestions.
I hope that most of you reading it would register in
the forums.

Regards,
Nitin Gupta
CEO
Xaprio Solutions
http://www.xaprio.com/
http://www.xaprio.com/forums/

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[ilugd] ESR says "GPL should be dead"

2005-07-06 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Eric S. Raymond (ESR) is harping about the community not really
needing GPL any more.

Complete interview at:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html?page=last&x-showcontent=text

What do others think? Especially people who work in companies dealing
with open source products? Or people whose companies are evaluating
deploying Linux based solutions? Does GPL do more harm than what it
tries to protect?

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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
vivek khurana wrote:
> 
>>I think certain trademark and other contractual
>>obligations also ensure
>>that you cannot even copy a RHEL distribution for
>>your own use(not just
>>redistribution). In other words, you can only
>>install RHEL on the number
>>of machines you have licence for.
> 
> 
>  As far as i am told by redhat executives, if you
> install redhat on more machines than you have licence
> for; redhat will support only those machines which
> have licence. That means extra machines will not be
> supported by redhat. 
> 

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html?page=last&x-showcontent=text

[...]

[Q] But Red Hat doesn't release all of its software as open source.

[ESR] I believe they make their real money on a product (Red Hat
   Enterprise Linux) that is completely GPLed. If you know differently,
   can you tell me what other licenses they are using?

[Q] It seems that Red Hat is selling its GNU/Linux distribution under a
   sort of user license that limits the freedom No. 2 provided by the
   GPL. The short version of the story, as I was told, is that if I buy
   a CD/DVD with the last Red Hat version and I make an ISO from that
   and put that online, I'll get sued.

   The same thing happens with
   computer magazines. They cannot include any Red Hat CD because the
   term Red Hat is a trademark or something like that, and they don't
   let the magazine use it without permission. And obviously they don't
   give you that permission. Magazines must use Fedora and never say Red
   Hat.

[ESR] Excuse me while I fire up a browser and research this a bit...
   Ahhh... right, if you republish a RHEL CD in either form, you could
   get sued for illegal use of the embedded trademarks. I think I just
   found the user license in question.

   So the answer to your question is yes... Red Hat is a demonstration
   that you can have a profitable business based on entirely GPL code.
   You may have to play some interesting tricks with trademark law to do
   it, though. As I understand it now, what Red Hat has done is legally
   blocked republication of its entire RHEL distribution even though any
   component part is still GPLed and therefore freely redistributable.

   Damn, that's clever and sneaky. I like it. It serves everybody: Red
   Hat gets a fence around its product, but all the community objectives
   of open source licensing are still met.

[Q] Do you consider this behavior coherent?

[ESR] Yes. It makes logical and even ethical sense.

[Q] Isn't one of the community objectives of open source licensing the
   possibility to share the code? So how can the fact that every single
   piece is still under GPL and thus redistributable, but if I take the
   whole CD/ISO it will be covered by the US trademark laws, be
   acceptable?

[ESR] That's the beauty of it. The possibility of sharing the code is
   unaffected--what you can't "share" is Red Hat's integration work and
   branding.



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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread vivek khurana


--- Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> I think certain trademark and other contractual
> obligations also ensure
> that you cannot even copy a RHEL distribution for
> your own use(not just
> redistribution). In other words, you can only
> install RHEL on the number
> of machines you have licence for.

 As far as i am told by redhat executives, if you
install redhat on more machines than you have licence
for; redhat will support only those machines which
have licence. That means extra machines will not be
supported by redhat. 

regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> While individual packages can be freely copied, the total distribution
> is supposed to be under a separate independent compilation effort, which
> Redhat is restricting to paid customers.

Which I think is a fair deal. Redhat can retain its revenue sources
but doesn't end up compromising the open nature of its software.
People can still look into the hood and tinker with individual parts
of the entire system but can't earn off Redhat's efforts.

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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Saurabh Nanda wrote:
>>Does anyone know if what they are doing is legal or not ?
> 
> 
> I don't know the exact licensing agreement for SuSE Linux, but Redhat
> has something like this:
> 
> All their work (or almost all) is GPLed. That means you get the four
> freedoms on the code. BUT the trademarks and logos are not freely
> distributable. The extract from RHL 9's EULA sums it up -
> 
> "THE "RED HAT" TRADEMARK, THE "BLUECURVE" TRADEMARK AND RED HAT'S
> SHADOW MAN LOGO ARE REGISTERED TRADEMARKS OF RED HAT, INC. IN THE
> UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. WHILE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT ALLOWS
> YOU TO COPY, MODIFY AND DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE, IT DOES NOT PERMIT
> YOU TO DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE UTILIZING RED HAT'S TRADEMARKS."
> 
> So, you may copy the entire CD and redistribute it but you can't call
> it a Redhat product. You have to remove all Redhat logos and
> trademarks before redistribtuion. This effectively nullifies any brand
> equity that you might get from redistributing a 'Redhat product' per
> se.

I think certain trademark and other contractual obligations also ensure
that you cannot even copy a RHEL distribution for your own use(not just
redistribution). In other words, you can only install RHEL on the number
of machines you have licence for.

While individual packages can be freely copied, the total distribution
is supposed to be under a separate independent compilation effort, which
Redhat is restricting to paid customers.

- Sandip



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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Mayank Jain
On 7/6/05, Saurabh Nanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "THE "RED HAT" TRADEMARK, THE "BLUECURVE" TRADEMARK AND RED HAT'S
> SHADOW MAN LOGO ARE REGISTERED TRADEMARKS OF RED HAT, INC. IN THE
> UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. WHILE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT ALLOWS
> YOU TO COPY, MODIFY AND DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE, IT DOES NOT PERMIT
> YOU TO DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE UTILIZING RED HAT'S TRADEMARKS."

Agreed...

Infact, SuSE also follows a similar policy.
According to SuSE's EULA (found on the cd),  you can toss around SuSE
cd's in your office, but cannot sell it!

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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Does anyone know if what they are doing is legal or not ?

I don't know the exact licensing agreement for SuSE Linux, but Redhat
has something like this:

All their work (or almost all) is GPLed. That means you get the four
freedoms on the code. BUT the trademarks and logos are not freely
distributable. The extract from RHL 9's EULA sums it up -

"THE "RED HAT" TRADEMARK, THE "BLUECURVE" TRADEMARK AND RED HAT'S
SHADOW MAN LOGO ARE REGISTERED TRADEMARKS OF RED HAT, INC. IN THE
UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. WHILE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT ALLOWS
YOU TO COPY, MODIFY AND DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE, IT DOES NOT PERMIT
YOU TO DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE UTILIZING RED HAT'S TRADEMARKS."

So, you may copy the entire CD and redistribute it but you can't call
it a Redhat product. You have to remove all Redhat logos and
trademarks before redistribtuion. This effectively nullifies any brand
equity that you might get from redistributing a 'Redhat product' per
se.

I hope I've made this subtle point clear.

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[ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
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Someone brought to my notice that i could "BUY" most of the Linux
distros on a per CD basis from http://www.roseindia.net . Their list
even includes stuff like SuSE Professional and Mandrake Power Pack
which i know are not distributable and need to be purchased for a tidy
sum.

Does anyone know if what they are doing is legal or not ?

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Re: [ilugd] modprobe bttv problem - Mandrake 10.1

2005-07-06 Thread Supreet Sethi

>After issuing command modprobe bttv and running xawtv, neither any channel is 
>displayed nor any sound out comes. But from root when I issue the command as 
>follows then everything is fine :
>
>
>  
>
Seems like ownership issue on /dev/ filesystem

Change permission according to your requirements on /dev/video* devices


> 
>rmmod bttv
>modprobe bttv card=23
> 
>please guide where the problem can be.
> 
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>MALKIAT
> 
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>
>  
>
HTH

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[ilugd] Invitation to linux geeks, July 17, at National Association for the Blind

2005-07-06 Thread Arun Mehta
Imagine a world where writing and the printing press had not been 
invented. Except for a few braille publications, and volunteers willing 
to record audio books, that is the world most blind people live in. The 
lucky ones are those with access to a computer, for they have recently 
become privy to any text in electronic form. Imagine how exciting it 
must be, to suddenly get almost equal access to the written word. If you 
are an English speaker, that is.

Many blind persons are professional typists. With typewriters, they had 
to be extra careful not to make any mistakes. The computer gives them 
the backspace key, and all the benefits of a word processor. If you type 
English, that is.

The blind rely on a neat little “screen reader” software called Jaws, 
that costs $900, and keeps speaking to the user, reading out what is on 
the screen, providing her with all the information she needs to decide 
what key to press next. It  does not handle Indian languages. So, if you 
are a blind Hindi typist, and your office switches from typewriters to 
computers, you lose your job.

Under Linux, there is also a screen reader available, called 
Gnopernicus. Work is going on to attach Indian-language text to speech 
to it. With a little extra effort, the whole range of Linux software 
can, through Gnopernicus, become accessible to the blind. Computers are 
rapidly becoming affordable to the blind, considering the benefit they 
provide. A little effort by Linux geeks, to help the transition of blind 
users to Linux, will dramatically increase the number of Linux users in 
years to come. Additionally, this effort will benefit a far wider 
community, you and me included.

Those of us who can speak a language but not read the script, are in the 
same position as the blind with regard to any written material in that 
language. When driving, or engaged in activities that demand the 
attention of our eyes, we are effectively blind from the point of view 
of the computer that is trying to navigate us, or to display a text 
message on a tiny screen. Thus, software for the blind is very useful 
for sighted persons as well, particularly in a country such as India, 
where we have over a dozen scripts, and illiteracy is high. There is 
therefore a huge professional opportunity here for developers and 
deployers of computer technology.

With a view to opening the eyes of geeks to such opportunities, on 
Sunday, July 17, 2005, the National Association of the Blind, RK Puram, 
would like to invite the Delhi Linux users group to a gettogether. The 
tentative agenda is as follows:

Dr. Dipendra Manocha will provide an introduction to the work being done 
at the technology center. In particular, he will talk about Daisy, 
www.daisy.org, a standard and system for content production, that 
effectively marries text with audio, so that users have the pleasure of 
listening to quality audio, while retaining the benefits of text, such 
as the ability to use search facilities, and to edit efficiently. This 
is a very interesting area with many opportunities for software development.

Students and faculty of the NAB will then demonstrate their use of 
diverse software packages. This part of the event will hopefully 
irritate our guests, for almost all they will see is software running on 
the MS Windows platform. This segment will show them, however, how 
useful computers can be in the lives of the “print challenged,” and 
provide them the incentive to make equivalent software work for the 
blind on the Linux platform, which we have not very successfully been 
trying to do at the NAB.

Arun Mehta will then make a presentation on Technology, Abilities and 
Disabilities, the outline can be found and commented on at 
http://www.india-gii.org/wiki/index.php/Presentations/ITandDisability

We will then have a general discussion, with a view to identifying 
projects that are interesting to work on, for which funding may be 
available, and have applications for both the sighted and the blind.

All are cordially invited.

Our first project will be a simple eBook reader, 
http://www.india-gii.org/wiki/index.php/Projects/mobile_eBook_reader .
Thanks to Dipendra Manocha for detailing the specifications as soon as 
we asked him for an idea!

This reader could grow into a full-fledged Daisy editor, which is 
described at 
http://www.india-gii.org/wiki/index.php/Projects/mobile_Daisy_creator

If you would like to help, but cannot come, here is a list of what we 
would like to learn in Java: 
http://www.india-gii.org/wiki/index.php/Java_wish_list -- your 
suggestions on appropriate courseware would be terrific.

Arun


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