[ilugd] Blackberry and Linux

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Hi

was curious to know if anyone of the list knows of blackberry being used 
with Linux OS. and if so what are the reviews etc.

and was seeing on the net that there is anothr device called Treo.

How do the two compare.

would appreciate your various opinions.

and Yes I did a search on the net and am then asking the list.

regards
ram

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Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10

[Tanveer Singh]

On 12/2/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Tanveer> On 12/2/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >> Hope this helps, feedback welcome.
>
> Tanveer> I guess for a newbie, rather than going into bridge mode
> Tanveer> and using pppoe client on system, we can simply put the
> Tanveer> comp in ethernet mode and let the router do the
> Tanveer> pppoe. Using rp-pppoe etc., runs into issues many times.
>
> You're right, at least about the comparative complexity of using PPPoE
> vs routing modes.  However, using PPPoE (on the host) does have the
> following advantages:
>
> 1. You get a routable IP and, if you really want, can expose services
> to your friends on the Internet.  For instance, you can put up files
> for downloading on your Apache web server and give people the IP to
> download them from temporarily.


Agreed, but I think by the time he gets to this level, he can go the pppoe
way

2. You control the connection.  I use the 590NU (night unlimited)
> plan, where MTNL requires me to restart the connection at midnight and
> 0800.  If I use the router mode, I have to physically switch the 502T
> off and on.  OTOH, with host PPPoE mode I have a simple cron entry
> that does the switching (poff; pon) automagically at 00:05 and 07:58,
> with me blissfully asleep.


You can reboot the modem by a script too! Check out vinuthomas.com

3. In general, i prefer to have control over my connections rather
> than some piece of hardware about which I know next to nothing.  To
> take an example, in host PPPoE mode, the 502T is inaccessible from the
> Internet, and people cannot exploit any weaknesses in it.  In router
> mode, however, the 502T is exposed to the 'net and potentially
> vulnerable to exploits.


No its not. All you have to do is block all connections  from outside world.
Simple. then computers only on the ethernet side can connect. Infact you
have a  hardware firewall router sitting, which is more powerful than
anything else :D

regards
Tanveer
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Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10

[Raj Mathur]

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> "Tanveer" == Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Tanveer> On 12/2/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Hope this helps, feedback welcome.

Tanveer> I guess for a newbie, rather than going into bridge mode
Tanveer> and using pppoe client on system, we can simply put the
Tanveer> comp in ethernet mode and let the router do the
Tanveer> pppoe. Using rp-pppoe etc., runs into issues many times.

You're right, at least about the comparative complexity of using PPPoE
vs routing modes.  However, using PPPoE (on the host) does have the
following advantages:

1. You get a routable IP and, if you really want, can expose services
to your friends on the Internet.  For instance, you can put up files
for downloading on your Apache web server and give people the IP to
download them from temporarily.

2. You control the connection.  I use the 590NU (night unlimited)
plan, where MTNL requires me to restart the connection at midnight and
0800.  If I use the router mode, I have to physically switch the 502T
off and on.  OTOH, with host PPPoE mode I have a simple cron entry
that does the switching (poff; pon) automagically at 00:05 and 07:58,
with me blissfully asleep.

3. In general, i prefer to have control over my connections rather
than some piece of hardware about which I know next to nothing.  To
take an example, in host PPPoE mode, the 502T is inaccessible from the
Internet, and people cannot exploit any weaknesses in it.  In router
mode, however, the 502T is exposed to the 'net and potentially
vulnerable to exploits.

Regards,

- -- Raju
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Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10

[Tanveer Singh]

On 12/2/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hope this helps, feedback welcome.
>
>
I guess for a newbie, rather than going into bridge mode and using pppoe
client on system, we can simply put the comp in ethernet mode and let the
router do the pppoe. Using rp-pppoe etc., runs into issues many times.
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Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10

[Raj Mathur]

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> > "Shirish" == Shirish Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   

Shirish> Hi all, I've just installed Ubuntu 5.10 in my dual-boot
Shirish> box. I'm using D-Link 502T for BSNL broadband & using the
Shirish> USB interface from windows without any issues. Would like
Shirish> to use the same in Ubuntu. The D-Link 502T Modem/Router
Shirish> is not always on. The web interface leads me to believe
Shirish> that its also is Linux-based.

Raju> Haven't tried the USB interface, but I have the same box
Raju> (502T) from MTNL and am using it through Ethernet, which
Raju> works fine.  Can send more details if you need them.

Raju> With Ethernet too there are two ways of using the 502T
Raju> (as a router and as a bridge).


Shirish> Would be glad to know any details u can forward me. Thanx
Shirish> in anticipation.

You have to do the following to use the 502T as a bridge (assumes you
can login to the router using the web interface and configure it).
Please read this whole message before you start:

1. Setup an IP on your ethernet to communicate with the 502T.  Use
192.168.1.2.

2. Login to the router admin console using a browser:
http://192.168.1.1/ .  The default login and password are both admin.

3. Switch the first virtual circuit (pvc0) to Bridge mode
(http://shanta.linuxops.net/~raju/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewpicture&album=/Misc&picture=pvc0.png&maxWidth=)

4. Switch the second virtual circuit (pvc1) to DSL mode
(http://shanta.linuxops.net/~raju/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?album=/Misc&mode=viewpicture&picture=pvc1.png#start_picture).

Make sure that pvc1 is DISABLED.

4a. Save settings and reboot the 502T.

5. Install the pppoeconf utility.  In Debian it belongs to a package
called ``pppoeconf'' (apt-get install pppoeconf).

6. Now just run pppoeconf.  It will discover the DSLAM or whatever
MTNL equipment it needs to and create a configuration file for ppp.
It will also give you options to set the default route and to start
the connection at boot time.

7. Start the connection (if you haven't done so already):

  pon dsl-provider

8. Disable 'net access to anything in your computer:

  iptables -I INPUT -s ! 127.0.0.1 -j REJECT (or something equivalent)

Make sure this gets done each time you start up the computer,
otherwise you're at the mercy of all the l33t haxqu0r k1dd13z waiting
to pounce upon you on the 'net.

I don't know if the pvc1 is really needed, but it works as a backup in
case something goes wrong (just enable it and set the default route on
your computer to 192.168.1.1 if you have problems and you can continue
to use the 502T as a router).

Hope this helps, feedback welcome.

Standard disclaimer: I'm not responsible if you manage to blow up your
house or get your cat run over by using the techniques described in
this message.  Caveat emptor.

Regards,

- -- Raju
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Re: [ilugd] Problem with LIRC and SVGAlib modules

[sanjay]

Vipin Jose wrote:

>i had tried modprobe before and it worked for both of them.But should these
>modules load automatically at startup? Is there any way i can fix this?
>  
>
Yeah, you can put the modprobe entry into /etc/rc.local file. It will 
load ur modules at startup.

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Re: [ilugd] 2 problems in Thunderbird

[Sudev Barar]

On 1 Dec 2005 08:24:09 -, bimal  pandit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >in infinite wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thus on 11/29/05 11:08:
> > > Am facing two problems in Thunderbird 1.0.2 on Ubuntu Hoary (5.04)
> > >
> > > 1. After reading all the mails the in folder continues to show unread
> > > mails (*in bold and brackets*) they disappear some time later or
> > > sometimes remain till the next lot of mails get downloaded.
> > >
> > > 2. The inbox takes a long time to load , after start up of Thunderbird.
> > >
> > > will appreciate knowing what is wrong and how to rectify.
[SNIP]

> do this and will be solved!!
> suppose the user is bimalpandit, so close thunderbird opend by this user and
> cd /home/bimalpandit/.thunderbird/xxx.default/Mail/Local Folders
> of his thunderbird directory on your system and save/move the following as
> mv Inbox Inbox.ORG
> mv Inbox.msf Inbox.msf.ORG
> mv Inbox.sbd Inbox.sbd.ORG
> now your actual mails are moved and are safe for future in case... now do as
> cp Inbox.ORG Inbox
> cp -r Inbox.sbd.ORG Inbox.sbd
> and now open thunderbird, will rebuild and will work as it should, I mean 
> both your issues will be GONE!!!
>

Bimal, care to explain why this happens?
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Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10

[Sudev Barar]

On 12/1/05, Shirish Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Haven't tried the USB interface, but I have the same box (502T) from
> MTNL and am using it through Ethernet, which works fine.  Can send
> more details if you need them.
>
> With Ethernet too there are two ways of using the 502T (as a router
> and as a bridge).
>
> Regards,
>
> - -- Raju
> - --
>
> Would be glad to know any details u can forward me. Thanx in anticipation.
>
> --

Two totally different beasts. One works right out of the box because
ethernet is standard. The other is highly unlikely as I pointed out in
my post.

Best course fo action get BSNL to replace your USB router with a ethernet one.
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Re: [ilugd] Spam Issue

[Komal]

I am using Linux version 2.4.18-3  (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110)..
Sendmail version : sendmail-8.11.6-27.73
MailScanner: mailscanner-4.22-5
Problem is from last 2 weeks i am getting some spam mails earlier it
was
working fine..
can any one guide me..what i have to do to resolve it..

-Thanks-
Manish Popli


I am willing to help you if you send me hard cash or read how to
configure Sendmail with Clam AV.

Regards,

Komal;


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Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10

[Shirish Agarwal]

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> > "Shirish" == Shirish Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   

Shirish> Hi all, I've just installed Ubuntu 5.10 in my dual-boot
Shirish> box. I'm using D-Link 502T for BSNL broadband & using the
Shirish> USB interface from windows without any issues. Would like
Shirish> to use the same in Ubuntu. The D-Link 502T Modem/Router
Shirish> is not always on. The web interface leads me to believe
Shirish> that its also is Linux-based.

Haven't tried the USB interface, but I have the same box (502T) from
MTNL and am using it through Ethernet, which works fine.  Can send
more details if you need them.

With Ethernet too there are two ways of using the 502T (as a router
and as a bridge).

Regards,

- -- Raju
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Would be glad to know any details u can forward me. Thanx in anticipation.

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[ilugd] TV streaming over LAN

[Vipin Jose]

Hi,

I am a BTech CS&E student and am planning to take up a "TV Streaming
over LAN (ethernet)" for major project. Have an idea for it to be
client-server (multiple clients, if possible). totally software
oriented.

Can experienced people plz give incite on feasibility and references
for the same.

platform - linux, language - C/C++/Java, duration-around 3 months, 5
member team.

: )
Vipin

TV streaming over LAN

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Re: [ilugd] Problem with LIRC and SVGAlib modules

[Vipin Jose]

i had tried modprobe before and it worked for both of them.But should these
modules load automatically at startup? Is there any way i can fix this?


On 12/2/05, sanjay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >The modules are not loaded and didnt find any mention of lirc or svgalib
> in
> >dmesg
> >
> >
> >
> if you know the name of ur module give the following command
> [prompt]#modprobe 
> this should solve the problems. make sure that ur module dependency is
> uptodate. for that u
> can give
> #depmod -a
>
>
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Re: [ilugd] Problem with LIRC and SVGAlib modules

[sanjay]

>The modules are not loaded and didnt find any mention of lirc or svgalib in
>dmesg
>
>  
>
if you know the name of ur module give the following command
[prompt]#modprobe 
this should solve the problems. make sure that ur module dependency is 
uptodate. for that u
can give
 #depmod -a

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[ilugd] 2 problems in Thunderbird

[bimal pandit]

Dear User,

>1. Re: 2 problems in Thunderbird (Raj shekhar)
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:46:11 +0530
> From: Raj shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [ilugd] 2 problems in Thunderbird
>To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list 
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>in infinite wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thus on 11/29/05 11:08:
> > Hi
> >
> > Am facing two problems in Thunderbird 1.0.2 on Ubuntu Hoary (5.04)
> >
> > 1. After reading all the mails the in folder continues to show unread
> > mails (*in bold and brackets*) they disappear some time later or
> > sometimes remain till the next lot of mails get downloaded.
> >
> > 2. The inbox takes a long time to load , after start up of Thunderbird.
> >
> > will appreciate knowing what is wrong and how to rectify.
>
>Are you using IMAP ?
>

do this and will be solved!!

suppose the user is bimalpandit, so close thunderbird opend by this user and 

cd /home/bimalpandit/.thunderbird/xxx.default/Mail/Local Folders

of his thunderbird directory on your system and save/move the following as

mv Inbox Inbox.ORG
mv Inbox.msf Inbox.msf.ORG
mv Inbox.sbd Inbox.sbd.ORG

now your actual mails are moved and are safe for future in case... now do as

cp Inbox.ORG Inbox
cp -r Inbox.sbd.ORG Inbox.sbd

and now open thunderbird, will rebuild and will work as it should, I mean both 
your issues will be GONE!!!

hope this will help.

regards,

Bimal Pandit
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