Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07
Anupam Jain wrote: Spread awareness? Start a free music based channel of our own? :) Just wondering , Is it ok to buy cd`s and start a music based channel :) nah i don`t think so Btw any pointer on resource of free music. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07
On 7/12/07, Gaurav Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering , Is it ok to buy cd`s and start a music based channel :) nah i don`t think so Btw any pointer on resource of free music. Jamendo - http://www.jamendo.com/en/ Regards, Pratik ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07
Btw any pointer on resource of free music. Jamendo - http://www.jamendo.com/en/ search-engine at creativecommons.org telefantastic stuff :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07
Spread awareness? Start a free music based channel of our own? :) Not a bad idea though regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07
On 7/12/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spread awareness? Start a free music based channel of our own? :) Not a bad idea though gotcha! here's the exasperating thing: even *if* i publish my music under a copyleft and/or free license, or just give it away royalty-free, the RIAA *will* collect royalties for *all* music broadcast or shared on the web. so as an artist you could just give up and collect your money from them, or donate it to them so they keep screwing the consumer as a beggar-king, or you could just stop publishing music totally. find references here: http://www.freepress.net/news/22887 please google for more. :-) niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1249882244;fp;16;fpid;1 the community thinks this is to safeguard apple from issues with gpl3, as apple's printing-engine relies on CUPS. maybe, maybe not. apple also bought the GPL-ed software similarly, that was the precursor to 'shake' its video-compositing app. can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? HP, that relies on CUPS to keep its printers compatible with GnuLinux, has yet to respond or issue a statement. could this have an impact on our GPL-ed ability to 'print-to-pdf' using CUPS? ? niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
IANAL FWIW On Thursday 12 July 2007 11:28 pm, Linux Lingam wrote: can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? It's not possible for anyone to revoke the GPL license on the code that is already out there. In the worst case we fork the last GPL/LGPL release. The GPLv3 question is more valid though - I have not seen the license for CUPS but unless it explicitly states 2 or later of GPL then it can not be relicensed under GPLv3. -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 23:28 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. [...] could this have an impact on our GPL-ed ability to 'print-to-pdf' using CUPS? [...] Bah. Repeat four words after me, boys and girls: F O R K Though I must say that I am kind of surprised that Novell is saying that they will distribute GPLv3 software rather than starting a v2/v3 fork war. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
On 7/12/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1249882244;fp;16;fpid;1 the community thinks this is to safeguard apple from issues with gpl3, as apple's printing-engine relies on CUPS. maybe, maybe not. apple also bought the GPL-ed software similarly, that was the precursor to 'shake' its video-compositing app. can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? HP, that relies on CUPS to keep its printers compatible with GnuLinux, has yet to respond or issue a statement. could this have an impact on our GPL-ed ability to 'print-to-pdf' using CUPS? ? niyam From the source: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L475 It seems to be fine and nothing to fork etc. over. Hostile takeover etc. seems to be an over-reaction. Also: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ Later, Vish ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. ... the community thinks this is to safeguard apple from issues with gpl3, as apple's printing-engine relies on CUPS. maybe, maybe not. http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/license.html -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] firefox event
hi! all, A firefox event is taking place in Mumbai on 21st July 2007. More details on http://www.mehtanirav.com/2007/06/29/join-hands-with-firefox/ regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07
gotcha! here's the exasperating thing: even *if* i publish my music under a copyleft and/or free license, or just give it away royalty-free, the RIAA *will* collect royalties for *all* music broadcast or shared on the web. so as an artist you could just give up and collect your money from them, or donate it to them so they keep screwing the consumer as a beggar-king, or you could just stop publishing music totally. Are you saying that if i setup a server outside US and only play music under copyleft or free license, RIAA can stil collect royalty from me ? How can RIAA collect royalties from internet music stations based outside US ? regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LIG] Fwd: internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07
On Thursday 12 July 2007 23:02, Linux Lingam wrote: [snip] gotcha! here's the exasperating thing: even *if* i publish my music under a copyleft and/or free license, or just give it away royalty-free, the RIAA *will* collect royalties for *all* music broadcast or shared on the web. so as an artist you could just give up and collect your money from them, or donate it to them so they keep screwing the consumer as a beggar-king, or you could just stop publishing music totally. find references here: http://www.freepress.net/news/22887 So how does it affect my Internet radio station with artists from, say, Europe, server based in Germany and promoters based in India? Are we liable? I mean, the last A in RIAA does stand for ``Assh^H^H^H^H America'', doesn't it? Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LIG] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
On 13-Jul-07, at 9:41 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? Note that there's a difference between ``lead programmer'' and ``only programmer''. If Foo is the only programmer of a project, she can choose to change to whatever license she wants at any time. If she's the lead programmer, however, she has to get permission from ALL programmers who've contributed even one byte to the code before she can change the license. Alternatively, she can go back to the pristine source which she originally single-handedly created and re-license that, but she loses all the innovation that the community made, and the community product remains under GPL anyway. or she can remove the code contributed by those programmers who dont agree. Or, like mysql does, refuse to accept any code unless the copyright is handed over -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LIG] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 12 July 2007 23:28, Linux Lingam wrote: [snip] can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? Note that there's a difference between ``lead programmer'' and ``only programmer''. If Foo is the only programmer of a project, she can choose to change to whatever license she wants at any time. If she's the lead programmer, however, she has to get permission from ALL programmers who've contributed even one byte to the code before she can change the license. Alternatively, she can go back to the pristine source which she originally single-handedly created and re-license that, but she loses all the innovation that the community made, and the community product remains under GPL anyway. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGlvtdyWjQ78xo0X8RArO3AJwJVufW8LyPEf+VudVZ6rLcTTQZfgCbB0mC Gs6yLeLlGQobRA9EbiBXOFo= =H3e4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LIG] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
change the license. Alternatively, she can go back to the pristine source which she originally single-handedly created and re-license that, but she loses all the innovation that the community made, and the community product remains under GPL anyway. Won't it be complex? Once a part of the code is relicensed, the remaining part may become unusable. Also, in this case, the programmer has changed the license in such a way that it allows Apple to build on a GPL software and not keep their modifications open source. In fact, the way the exception is worded, it would be possible for any company to pay up a fee to this programmer and have their name included in the list of parties that are excluded from provisions of GPL. Imagine Microsoft doing that!! Buying license exception from all the GPL software they are interested in, do some cosmetic changes, close it and call it theirs!! In some cases, they may even be able to use free software to actually kick free software out of the scene. Sounds dangerous. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. apple also bought the GPL-ed software similarly, that was the precursor to 'shake' its video-compositing app. can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? I dont think cups is project driven by single programmer. Apple hiring lead programmer presents no threat to the project as long as lead programmer is dedicated to the project. If lead programmer joining Apple is a 'takeover' then Google has taken over python long ago and M$ has taken over couple OSS projects. On the other hand if the project is run by a team of programmers then lead programmer can no way revoke the license of the software unless all the code contributors agree to revoke the license. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
