Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-11 Thread Sriram J
>
> I burnt my hand recently after buying a $90 Logitech quickcam pro or
> something. As my bad luck turned out, this needed the exact driver which
>  was pulled out from the Linux kernel in a big public spat [1]. My bad,
> I should have checked before that flash of impulsive buying. I had to
> donate the cam to my brother who happily runs it on his XP (blech).
>
> [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/99615/
>
> Can some one tell me what is the positioning of linux as an operating
system.
who are target audience/consumers of linux supposed to be.

is it for the general users who want an alternative for windows or the few
fakirs[1] who put ideology above all and are not willing to compromise at
any cost.

is  linux intended by design to always remain out of the reach of the person
who refuses  to jump through hoops to get the hardware to work .

 i myself back in the days  had to switch to windows because i bought an
unsupported video card and did not have the money to buy an new one.


[1] Definitions of *fakir* on the Web
A performer of seemingly miraculous feats (such as firewalking, snake
charming and lying on a bed of nails)
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Re: [ilugd] AMD 64 X2 linux install issue

2008-01-11 Thread Sahil Dave
On Jan 7, 2008 11:51 PM, Anoop John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > does AMD 64X2 only supports 64-bit distros, is there any way around
> > > this...??
> > I have been able to successfully install Ubuntu 7.10 32bit edition on
> > Athlon X2 processors. What is the exact error message that you are
> > getting? Edit the boot options and take out the quiet and splash
> > options while booting Ubuntu installation CD and check for the error
> > messages.
> >
>
fedora 8 installed correctly once i inserted 'acpi=off' option. my mobo is
not supporting acpi with linux i-386.

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[ilugd] ATI Driver Install Issue

2008-01-11 Thread Sahil Dave
hi,

i have installed the ATI graphics for my on-board gpu (Xpress 1250)
have tried doing the default config. by:

$aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf

but the following error comes on reboot and there is no gui.

*Error Log: only the relevant part*
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//drivers/fglrx_drv.so
dlopen: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//drivers/fglrx_drv.so
(II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (loader failed, 7)
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//input/kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.2.2
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//input/mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.2.3
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found


can anyone help...??
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Why would someone put a TTL of 60s on a DNS record ?

2008-01-11 Thread Ashish Shukla
On Jan 11, 2008 10:05 PM, Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> Akamai has a globally distributed server network. It maps users to
> these servers depending on a variety of factors such as geographic location,
> network latency, server load etc. One of the ways this works is that
> by recomputing the DNS entries based on these. As such factors are
> highly variable, the TTL is small so that users are mapped to the most
> optimal server everytime.

I know about Akamai stuff, but my point is other Akamai clients like
www.yahoo.com, www.microsoft.com, msdn.microsoft.com, which're
probably more popular than intel.com, has their TTL set to 300, 3600
etc. So my point is whats the need of TTL of 60s for such less popular
site. By setting it to very low TTL, they're just causing users to do
DNS queries more often. Anyways, I've not seen anyone with such low
TTL except DynDNS.com, thats it.

>
> Shameless plug follows :-)
> I agree with Vipul. Akamai does fairly interesting stuff.

I also agree with Akamai doing really interesting stuff :)

Thanks for the replies.
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Why would someone put a TTL of 60s on a DNS record ?

2008-01-11 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Jan 11, 2008 9:01 PM, Vipul Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008 4:55 PM, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just found that www.intel.com has TTL of 60s, and in my view TTL of
> > 60s should be suitable for records with frequently changing IPs, e.g.
> > for DNS records maintained by DynDNS users who're on dynamic IPs.
> > Hmm...?
>
> Note in your dig trace that the 60s TTL is for the CNAME record
> pointing www.intel.com to www.intel.com.edgesuite.net. Now
> edgesuite.net is an akamai service AFAIK.
>
> The purpose of keeping a very short TTL, as far as I see, is to
> prevent downstream DNS servers from caching it for a long time
> (obviously). This would typically be done if the record gets updated
> frequently... but hey, akamai is known to do weirdly interesting
> stuff!

 I work for Akamai and am not speaking for my employer
Blah blah blah 

Akamai has a globally distributed server network. It maps users to
these servers depending on a variety of factors such as geographic location,
network latency, server load etc. One of the ways this works is that
by recomputing the DNS entries based on these. As such factors are
highly variable, the TTL is small so that users are mapped to the most
optimal server everytime.

Shameless plug follows :-)
I agree with Vipul. Akamai does fairly interesting stuff.

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Why would someone put a TTL of 60s on a DNS record ?

2008-01-11 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Jan 11, 2008 4:55 PM, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just found that www.intel.com has TTL of 60s, and in my view TTL of
> 60s should be suitable for records with frequently changing IPs, e.g.
> for DNS records maintained by DynDNS users who're on dynamic IPs.
> Hmm...?

Note in your dig trace that the 60s TTL is for the CNAME record
pointing www.intel.com to www.intel.com.edgesuite.net. Now
edgesuite.net is an akamai service AFAIK.

The purpose of keeping a very short TTL, as far as I see, is to
prevent downstream DNS servers from caching it for a long time
(obviously). This would typically be done if the record gets updated
frequently... but hey, akamai is known to do weirdly interesting
stuff!

~ViM

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Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-11 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Anand Shankar wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2008 10:08 AM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bought a webcam yesterday, thought I'd share the experience...
>> Unfortunately the webcams
>> that seem to work well with Linux (at least according to Google) seem
>> to be pretty high priced -- Rs 4000+.
> 
> Thats right  - This has been putting me off for buying a webcam for
> years!! But these devices are supporting USB Video Class, [UVC] which
> supposedly do not bring up issues like this
> 

I burnt my hand recently after buying a $90 Logitech quickcam pro or
something. As my bad luck turned out, this needed the exact driver which
 was pulled out from the Linux kernel in a big public spat [1]. My bad,
I should have checked before that flash of impulsive buying. I had to
donate the cam to my brother who happily runs it on his XP (blech).

[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/99615/

Some years back, I did get a logitech quickcam express working fine.

http://blog.sandipb.net/2004/11/28/video-conferencing-on-linux/

- Sandip


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[ilugd] [OT] Why would someone put a TTL of 60s on a DNS record ?

2008-01-11 Thread आशीष श ुक्ल A shish Shukla
Hi,

I just found that www.intel.com has TTL of 60s, and in my view TTL of
60s should be suitable for records with frequently changing IPs, e.g.
for DNS records maintained by DynDNS users who're on dynamic IPs.
Hmm...?

I've posted the complete analysis at
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/intelcom-dns-admins-suck-bigtime/
.

If any DNS gurus in this list, can give me suitable reason for this,
I'll be thankful to him.

TIA
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Re: [ilugd] Linux RAID issues (was) Re: Linux graphic PC!

2008-01-11 Thread Anoop John
> w.r.t your urls, neither of those two even talk about lvm :D Anyway, i
> think we've had a point made. Time to move on.

I guess you made your points.
My lesson learnt - It is tougher in Ubuntu to setup raid+lvm than some
other distros :).
I happen to be a Ubuntu supporter and I had to defend it (at least try)
Time to move on. I agree.

Cheers
Anoop

PS: RMS gave a talk in Cochin yesterday on "Free Software in Ethics
and Practice". I will try to get hold of a copy of the video and post
on youtube or get somebody to post it.

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