Re: [ilugd] eeepc.in any users here?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vikas Rawal wrote: | We have our own HCL MiLeap to compete with EEEPC. For roughly similar | price, MiLeap gives a conventional 30 GB HDD rather than a 4 GB solid | state drive in EEEPC. MiLeap also has a tablet style thing (MiLeap Y) | for about 30K. Isn't the one with the conventional HDD priced at ~30K ? - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHzl73XQZpNTcrCzMRAhqsAJ0Z6knki0oV89ROHcP+JFCQH8f4TgCaAh6R epPvn3q5R1tJ4+iWF7ohp7Q= =rFTm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] usb to tv tuner for ubuntu
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, spotted a tv-tuner today, in an external usb matchbox-sized device. quoted price: rs 1,350. connect your tv cable to the box, connect box to usb, watch tv on your computer monitor. also found another box, that could also bring tv via box to your monitor directly without requiring the cpu. was about to get it. but did not know if it works with ubuntu. any users here, any specific models? any issues? more importantly: does it record video. full-screen, full-motion? tia. it is like you saw a girl and asking us what is the Name PLease let us know the Manufacturers name and if possible model.. Thanks and Regards *Ravi Shanker Kr * ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] usb to tv tuner for ubuntu
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Ravi Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, spotted a tv-tuner today, in an external usb matchbox-sized device. quoted price: rs 1,350. it looked like a tech-com. did not note down the exact model. my question was: is there any usb-based tv-tuner device that works on linux, that anyone knows of? another way of putting it:can such a device work natively under linux with off-the-source-forge stuff like gstreamer, vlc, and other video components? connect your tv cable to the box, connect box to usb, watch tv on your computer monitor. also found another box, that could also bring tv via box to your monitor directly without requiring the cpu. was about to get it. but did not know if it works with ubuntu. any users here, any specific models? any issues? more importantly: does it record video. full-screen, full-motion? tia. it is like you saw a girl and asking us what is the Name PLease let us know the Manufacturers name and if possible model.. Thanks and Regards *Ravi Shanker Kr * ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [X-POST] Kerala schools to go completely FOSS
Congratulations to our friends in Kerala are in order, I think: Kerala shuts windows, schools to use only Linux http://www.indianexpress.com/story/280323.html I'd like to get my hands on a copy of the courseware... is it freely available? Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] eeepc.in any users here?
Vipul Mathur wrote: I had a brief look at the Eeepc [1] and MiLeap [2] some time back. IMHO, the 7 screen is barely usable, and the keyboard does not seem the 7 screen is quite usable, but yes a 9 or a 10 would have been better, I think they went for battery life rather than the screen size. I hear there is a larger screen model on its way. Also think about this - the larger screen will add to the weight too! Right now, an eeepc is easy to throw into a bag and leave it there ( the use case, in this situation, for me are the girls who work in the support department / admin department at one of my clients - they just have the eeepc in their bags and dont even need to carry another laptop bag etc. ) to be built for heavy use. However, for someone who needs a cheap, ultralight laptop, maybe for presentations or as a travel companion, these might be worth their money. Sure, and as I said earlier as well - the EEEpc is great for people who just need a laptop for the sake of a machine. To do things like email ( hey, dont let screen size bother you when it comes to email and internet stuff - the blackberry *crackberry* would not have been that big a hit if was down to screen size ). Here in London - there is now a longer waiting list for the EEEpc than there is for the Apple MacBook Air. That in-itself is a major achievement. Next step, for me, would be a better OS implementation on there. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
On 05/03/2008, Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asked me for the Windows Vista Home Premium CD so that he can try it out. I know its wrong in principal to give him the cd, its license terms deny it, and it would amount to software piracy. But if i dont give it, instead of understanding these principles, my friend would surely think Im just being mean, selfish. Your decision mate...and it would be nice to know what it was. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
Windows Vista checks online to see if the copy was activated-- and whether it is being used by the same guy/hardware for which it was activated-- chances are you need to apart from giving your friend the CD need to phone microsoft and ask them to transfer the activation. Vista OEM version detecting online that it's running on hardware on which it is not activated could lead to your own Vista activation being revoked. This has existed since the days of WinXP... Regards, Nalin On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/03/2008, Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asked me for the Windows Vista Home Premium CD so that he can try it out. I know its wrong in principal to give him the cd, its license terms deny it, and it would amount to software piracy. But if i dont give it, instead of understanding these principles, my friend would surely think Im just being mean, selfish. Your decision mate...and it would be nice to know what it was. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 22:39, Puneet Lakhina wrote: Moreover since I work in the software business, supporting piracy would be a disservice to my own profession and its profits. What do I do? Do I tell him what software piracy is, and expect him to understand? I know some of the suggestions would be give him Linux. He is knowledgable enough to understand whats linux and whats windows, so if hes asking for windows, he knows what he wants (I assume :-) ) Surprisingly, if the friend can understand about the specs of the computer, doesn't he know that there *is* something called as software piracy? (FOSS world may not consider something like this, but I have to be in both the worlds to speak) If there is a possibility he doesn't know about software piracy, he should probably be asked to refer and find out about it. I believe, he should probably try and understand what Windows is, and how a software company like Microsoft sells the software as a product. Probably, he would get a (pirated) copy for some other source, but then you aren't directly responsible for it. (May be you are not at all). I assume, Freed.in this year was trying to build an ecosystem where FOSS products are nearly, if not equally, trying to equate with the needs of an end-user, apart from forming such a community that brings FOSS to the forefront. Often, my friends do ask for Windows software, and I often tell them, that I don't download any such software, and that I use Kubuntu Linux. I often recommend them a Linux distribution, but I don't force upon them. I often do find alternatives in a Linux distro to accomplish a task better, but don't try it anytime, so I may not be correct all the time. Darn! people expect .exe to run directly. And to recommend them wine could probably increase the probability to run viruses and possibly affect some shared windows drive :( (hmm, I'm supposed to do a lot of things, besides this, and ... hmm) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Puneet Lakhina wrote: [snip] Moreover since I work in the software business, supporting piracy would be a disservice to my own profession and its profits. This is the key. It has nothing to do with profits, but of plain respect. Even if you are an open source programmer, you expect others to respect your licenses. So whether or not you like the terms under which someone else has licensed their software, it is their right to license it as they see fit, and you are free not to purchase it. -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
Re: [OT] My dilemma (Puneet Lakhina) the specs and the os with my friends. Now one of these friends today has asked me for the Windows Vista Home Premium CD so that he can try it out. I know its wrong in principal to give him the cd, its license terms deny it, and it would amount to software piracy. But if i dont give it, instead of understanding these principles, my friend would surely think Im just being mean, selfish. Just give it to him. It needs more skills than the ability to compile a couple of Linux kernels to run on any VISTA Capable hardware. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
On 05-Mar-08, at 10:39 PM, Puneet Lakhina wrote: I am facing a dilemma that I am sure a lot of you have faced. I recently bough a dell laptop which came with Windows Vista Home Premium. So I obviously got the official windows vista cd. in the first place you should have returned the cd to dell and got a refund for the price you paid for vista. If you havent returned it, then 'accidently' drop it so that it is scratched and unusable and then give it to your friend. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
in the first place you should have returned the cd to dell and got a refund for the price you paid for vista. Has anyone on this list managed to get a refund from any of the major laptop companies. They all package Windows OS with their laptops. Would be interested if anyone has managed to get a refund. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one of these friends today has asked me for the Windows Vista Home Premium CD so that he can try it out. I know its wrong in principal to give him the cd, its license terms deny it, and it would amount to software piracy. But if i dont give it, instead of understanding these principles, my friend would surely think Im just being mean, selfish. Where's the dilemma? If he is truly your friend you should point him to freedom and free software, and the principles of respecting licences. If he disowns you for having principles and for giving him helpful suggestions on setting him free, then you should reassess the value of this friendship. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] My dilemma
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM, pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one of these friends today has asked me for the Windows Vista Home Premium CD so that he can try it out. I know its wrong in principal to give him the cd, its license terms deny it, and it would amount to software piracy. But if i dont give it, instead of understanding these principles, my friend would surely think Im just being mean, selfish. Where's the dilemma? If he is truly your friend you should point him to freedom and free software, and the principles of respecting licences. If he disowns you for having principles and for giving him helpful suggestions on setting him free, then you should reassess the value of this friendship. The worry is more that a simple suggestion to use FOSS may prompt his friend to do nothing at all thus not be helped. As a person who constantly finds himself in a similar muddle, I have found that a show-and-tell approach much better than a simple suggestion to use FOSS. I usually let them use my Ubuntu laptop (replete with eye candy) for a few minutes and they are hooked. On a side note, this may be slightly controversial, it also helps sometimes to use Ubuntu without the Linux. For some strange reason most people have heard good things about this Ubuntu thing but never actually tried it but a mention of Linux still evokes the response But I hate typing out stuff in the command prompt! -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
