Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin
On 29-Jun-08, at 10:01 AM, shirish wrote: and an apology justifies the cross-post? Hi all, Kenneth, no an apology doesn't justify the cross-post. But if one wants to post to couple lists as possible to get the answer I don't see any other way. mailing lists are meant for discussion and community interaction and not for people who want answers 'asap'. Choose the most appropriate list and ask there. If they cannot answer, then try another. I am open to suggestions as to how should one go about seeking answers. you will very fast become unpopular if you cross post to several lists at a time. We are not here to serve you As said before in my original query, I did use google and actually also used IRC for the same. If there is a better way to do things, I'm interested to know. cross posts are only justified in announcements of general interests of several lists, not for self centred attempts to get an answer 'asap' -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin
Oh..com'n guys grow up. Give it a rest. On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:39:34 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29-Jun-08, at 10:01 AM, shirish wrote: snip Hi all, Kenneth, no an apology doesn't justify the cross-post. But if one wants to post to couple lists as possible to get the answer I don't see any other way. mailing lists are meant for discussion and community interaction and not for people who want answers 'asap'. Choose the most appropriate list and ask there. If they cannot answer, then try another. I am open to suggestions as to how should one go about seeking answers. you will very fast become unpopular if you cross post to several lists at a time. We are not here to serve you As said before in my original query, I did use google and actually also used IRC for the same. If there is a better way to do things, I'm interested to know. cross posts are only justified in announcements of general interests of several lists, not for self centred attempts to get an answer 'asap' -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin
On 29-Jun-08, at 7:39 PM, Smruti M wrote: Oh..com'n guys grow up. Give it a rest. what exactly does that mean? I got 4-5 copies of his posts as I was subscribed to many of the lists to which he crossposted. And now I see another batch - looks like he is making it a habit. Before making comments like this, I suggest you read up on cross posting and the problems it causes, while you are about it, read up on top posting and adhere to list etiquette and post properly the next time. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin
On 6/29/08, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29-Jun-08, at 7:39 PM, Smruti M wrote: Oh..com'n guys grow up. Give it a rest. what exactly does that mean? I got 4-5 copies of his posts as I was subscribed to many of the lists to which he crossposted. And now I see another batch - looks like he is making it a habit. Before making comments like this, I suggest you read up on cross posting and the problems it causes, while you are about it, read up on top posting and adhere to list etiquette and post properly the next time. Sorry about that top posting Kenneth. I didn't intend it, it just happened. So accept my sincere apologies. About the content of the mail, my point was to rest the case and move on to subjects of higher interest. I had subscribed to ILUG-Delhi to participate in technical discussions and become aware and if possible spread the message of Software Freedom. So correct me if I am at the wrong place. The last time we discussed anything remotely related to FOSS was 3 days back when Niyam had posted some links. So my urge to the community was to have more and more discussions on Linux and Open Source rather than taking every topic to all sorts of absurd electronic warfare. Also, we really don't care what goes on in Redmond. So whether Mr W H Gates found it from a trash bin or from his backyard, it really doesn't matter. Regards SM -- The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. ~Walter Bagehot ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin
Replies in-line Message: 8 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:51:31 +0530 From: Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 29-Jun-08, at 7:39 PM, Smruti M wrote: Oh..com'n guys grow up. Give it a rest. what exactly does that mean? I got 4-5 copies of his posts as I was subscribed to many of the lists to which he crossposted. And now I see another batch - looks like he is making it a habit. Before making comments like this, I suggest you read up on cross posting and the problems it causes, while you are about it, read up on top posting and adhere to list etiquette and post properly the next time. Lemme first clear the air. I cross-posted to 2 mailing lists. Now if I get a satisfied answer from one mailing list , should I just shut up or should I also make an attempt to let the other mailing list know of the answer I got. Perhaps they didn't know. I am reading about crossposting as I write. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-posting Thank you for your help. As far as your other post is concerned, please don't assume or presume whatever others do is just out of pure self-interest. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [OT] Difference between cross-post and multi-post
Hi all, Was reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-post http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-posting I am confused, would my message be treated as cross-post as kenneth says or should it be a multi-post, the distinctions are not clear. Another one [quote : Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-post ] Cross-posting is often frowned upon, but if the groups to whom the post is submitted are all independent, but appropriate to the subject matter, objections are generally minimal. [/quote] What does it mean to be an [b] independant [/b] . Aren't all mailing lists independant? Looking for answers. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Difference between cross-post and multi-post
Hi all, Another thing I know both the articles are written from usenet perspectives. From what little I know usenet are the forefathers of modern mailing lists, so the above should apply to mailing lists as well I guess. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin
On 30-Jun-08, at 9:40 AM, shirish wrote: Lemme first clear the air. I cross-posted to 2 mailing lists. I am sure I saw both chennai and mumbai Now if I get a satisfied answer from one mailing list , should I just shut up or should I also make an attempt to let the other mailing list know of the answer I got. Perhaps they didn't know. if you did cross post it is good etiquette to let the other mailing lists know what answer you got -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Difference between cross-post and multi-post
On 30-Jun-08, at 9:57 AM, shirish wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-post http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-posting I am confused, would my message be treated as cross-post as kenneth says or should it be a multi-post, the distinctions are not clear. wikipedia is not a source of knowledge. It is a pointer to the sources of knowledge. It is not an encylopedia and does not permit original articles. Use wikipedia to find the sources and study the sources. If you check out usenet policies you will see: 1. same post to more than one list is a crosspost 2. announcements of interest to more than one list are justified 3. admin announcements where the admin handles more than one list is justified 4. any post that is expected to generate discussion should be confined to one list. If a crosspost for generating discussions or getting replies is made, it should be specified to which list the replies are to be sent. From this it follows that lists to which the crosspost is sent should have members in common. Hence it also follows that crossposts that generate discussions should not be sent to various LUG lists as they dont have a common membership. A cross post to freed.in and ilugd and possibly a sarai list could be justified. (incidentally I personally feel that references to wikipedia should be banned because it shows that the person referring has not done his homework.) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin
shirish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First of all sorry for cross-posting the same query on so many lists. So don't do that then. It irritates people and gets you bad karma. I read somewhere couple of days ago that Bill Gates actually got his source-code from some trash-bin It's distorted in the telling. I don't remember the website [snip excuses] I posted about it on this mailing list too a while ago, I think. I'd skip out on athletics and go down to this computer center. We were moving ahead very rapidly: Basic, FORTRAN, LISP, PDP-10 machine language, digging out the operating system listings from the trash and studying those. - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/06/29/bill_gates_roots/ PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
