Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that
On Friday 11 Jul 2008, Raj Mathur wrote: Would you be interested in a discussion at the next ILUGD meet on the various types of FOSS licences, what precisely they imply for the developer, distributor and user and how to use them? I could try to give an exposition from my own non-legal-but-spent-enough-years-wading-through-the-quagmire perspective, and whatever answers come out of the discussion can be, say, posted on the Wiki as a FAQ or other global resource. Topics that may be interesting to discuss include: - Distribution policies - Development policies - Money exchange policies - Attributions - Bundling - RPC/SOAP/equivalents - Patent provisions - Web service licensing Good ideas. This may not fall under the realm of Licences as in above. Please include if you think it appropriate. - [Add your own] - Public Portals (developed using open standards) Govt. and PSU portals are being developed by companies like TCS and such. Some of these sites are begining to enforce authentication with Digital Signatures (usb dongle). They are using some MS proprietary technology that works only with WinXP and IE. This is tantamount to the Govt. and PSUs endorsing a proprietary product and forcing it's citizens to either buy a legit. Windows lic. or resort to piracy and break the law. Orgs. who work with Govt./PSU portals have raised this issue but with a Linux desktop we cannot download/upload tenders (or whatever). I am not conversant with the underlying technology. However, I am confident that the above can be done using open standards, thereby not forcing the citizens and organizations to purchase a Windows XP lic. For starters, there should be a DIT (or an approp. Govt. body) policy that requires every vendor, developing a portal that interarcts with public at large, to use open standards and ensures that it works across all the desktops, not just MS Windows. -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that
On Friday 11 Jul 2008, Arun Khan wrote: [snip] This may not fall under the realm of Licences as in above. Please include if you think it appropriate. - Public Portals (developed using open standards) Govt. and PSU portals are being developed by companies like TCS and such. Some of these sites are begining to enforce authentication with Digital Signatures (usb dongle). They are using some MS proprietary technology that works only with WinXP and IE. This is tantamount to the Govt. and PSUs endorsing a proprietary product and forcing it's citizens to either buy a legit. Windows lic. or resort to piracy and break the law. Orgs. who work with Govt./PSU portals have raised this issue but with a Linux desktop we cannot download/upload tenders (or whatever). That's a great topic and deserves a few days discussion to itself. Let's see if we can get some experts and movers in and do a small workshop-type thingie on FOSS and GoI. Just thinking off the top of my head here, so no commitments! Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that
Orgs. who work with Govt./PSU portals have raised this issue but with a Linux desktop we cannot download/upload tenders (or whatever). That's a great topic and deserves a few days discussion to itself. Let's see if we can get some experts and movers in and do a small workshop-type thingie on FOSS and GoI. Just thinking off the top of my head here, so no commitments! Am curious... How is this different from your (Raj Mathur) selling open source software without giving the source code ? You yourself mentioned that you do that whenever you get the chance and that you even bill the customers and charge sales tax rather than service tax. ??? Maybe I am missing out something, but would appreciate a clarification... N.S ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that
On Friday 11 Jul 2008, Nalin Savara (gmail) wrote: Orgs. who work with Govt./PSU portals have raised this issue but with a Linux desktop we cannot download/upload tenders (or whatever). That's a great topic and deserves a few days discussion to itself. Let's see if we can get some experts and movers in and do a small workshop-type thingie on FOSS and GoI. Just thinking off the top of my head here, so no commitments! Am curious... How is this different from your (Raj Mathur) selling open source software without giving the source code ? You yourself mentioned that you do that whenever you get the chance and that you even bill the customers and charge sales tax rather than service tax. I've never said that I sell FOSS without source code, so set your mind at rest. Unless you're just trolling, of course, in which case feel free to continue this discussion unilaterally, since I shall not be participating in it. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] distro name using lsb_release
Hi All, How can I have a generic way of knowing the name version of a distro? As my work area is SLES RHEL, I thought of using */etc/issue (*or */etc/ issue.net) *or */etc/redhat-release *or */etc/SuSE-release * Another way is, using* *the command* lsb_release -d ,* which works even on Hardy*. *As I liked it more, so, my query changes to: Can I assume lsb_release to be there on every Linux distro ? I assume because LSB means Linux Standard Base and their web site says *Currently all major distributions comply with the LSB ...* ( http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB) and have another link to https://www.linuxfoundation.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb Seeking inputs. Thanks in anticipation Vikas Upadhyay * * ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that
I've never said that I sell FOSS without source code, so set your mind at rest. Unless you're just trolling, of course, in which case feel free to continue this discussion unilaterally, since I shall not be participating in it. I'm not trolling; but all the same, I was wondering about the same when you posted-- and it would be great to hear your perspective about the salient points and contrasts. Ofcourse, your saying I've never said that I sell FOSS without source code, so set your mind at rest. does not actually clarify anything; nor does it set anyone's mind to rest. Look forward to hearing that perspective. Best Regards, Nalin ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Hello Everybody !!!!!!
Hello Folks, I am Using Edubuntu 7.10.I cannot configure the webcam(Model: Quantum,QHMPL group). i tried do do this: uname -a Linux indistylo-desktop 2.6.22-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Jun 10 09:21:34 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge 00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 437A Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 4379 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 81) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (rev 80) 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80) 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 02:03.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) lsusb Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Camera kernel Available 2.4.25 with Camera Manufacturer CD please Help me fight from this problem.. Thank you In Advance Regards Arun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello Everybody !!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arun singh writes: Hello Folks, I am Using Edubuntu 7.10.I cannot configure the webcam(Model: Quantum,QHMPL group). i tried do do this: uname -a Linux indistylo-desktop 2.6.22-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Jun 10 09:21:34 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge 00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 437A Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 4379 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 81) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (rev 80) 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80) 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 02:03.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) lsusb Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Camera kernel Available 2.4.25 with Camera Manufacturer CD please Help me fight from this problem.. You should try gspca. Thank you In Advance Regards Arun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkh3S6YACgkQHy+EEHYuXnQxMQCffeOJtAqO6LBrZifOsNRGbo1B KaMAn2aLTmlRQXtlAuSusKslgaNQkZ8f =DKYk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello Everybody !!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [sorry for the last post] Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल writes: arun singh writes: [snip] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam Above VendorID:ProductID is listed at http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html. [snip] You should try gspca. I'm not any Ubuntu GNU/Linux user, so I won't be of much help. But I think you need to install gspca[1] driver from their repositories. It is available in 'universe' section, so you need to enable Universe section of repositories in your apt-get configuration. Or, if you prefer latest, install from the sources on site. References: [1] - http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/gspca-source Ashish - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkh3TXcACgkQHy+EEHYuXnRh/gCgtoa2RY7SFANueY6ygnpHouV5 A50AnR1LnP67aUgOE/9odc0e3HwrsA18 =PlfR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raj Mathur writes: On Friday 11 Jul 2008, Nalin Savara (gmail) wrote: Orgs. who work with Govt./PSU portals have raised this issue but with a Linux desktop we cannot download/upload tenders (or whatever). That's a great topic and deserves a few days discussion to itself. Let's see if we can get some experts and movers in and do a small workshop-type thingie on FOSS and GoI. Just thinking off the top of my head here, so no commitments! Am curious... How is this different from your (Raj Mathur) selling open source software without giving the source code ? You yourself mentioned that you do that whenever you get the chance and that you even bill the customers and charge sales tax rather than service tax. I've never said that I sell FOSS without source code, so set your mind at rest. Unless you're just trolling, of course, in which case feel free to continue this discussion unilaterally, since I shall not be participating in it. Testing -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkh3UusACgkQHy+EEHYuXnQIAACgyGEmKHJF4BMVZQNLQtggrjs8 QWQAoJrurzDTAc9C+qv1x9yxPerbbkmF =Z6CY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raj Mathur writes: On Friday 11 Jul 2008, Nalin Savara (gmail) wrote: Orgs. who work with Govt./PSU portals have raised this issue but with a Linux desktop we cannot download/upload tenders (or whatever). That's a great topic and deserves a few days discussion to itself. Let's see if we can get some experts and movers in and do a small workshop-type thingie on FOSS and GoI. Just thinking off the top of my head here, so no commitments! Am curious... How is this different from your (Raj Mathur) selling open source software without giving the source code ? You yourself mentioned that you do that whenever you get the chance and that you even bill the customers and charge sales tax rather than service tax. I've never said that I sell FOSS without source code, so set your mind at rest. Unless you're just trolling, of course, in which case feel free to continue this discussion unilaterally, since I shall not be participating in it. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Testing - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkh3U3YACgkQHy+EEHYuXnSNLQCgqv+M/Ev2gCUPtTK9Zpy9Z11S 3pYAnRr50WH4ZHAeGJ22z64QaPL9dNUB =2Snp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Apologies for the last few messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for the last few messages, which I accidentally posted to the list, while testing format=flowed messages and Gnus PGP. Ashish - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkh3VDMACgkQHy+EEHYuXnTSzACfZMtygk7/KObP+kevGVEkKMh7 b2kAoIdQfS2kG7OuqIBKWmZumbRTFts6 =EhHn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Web Analysis Tool
Hello Folks Iam Searching for a Open Source Web Analysis Tool for windows platform , which can give me data like page views , visits , etc . I have heard about awstats , Is there any other tool which is even more powerfull then awstats -saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Web Analysis Tool
saurabh vadhera wrote: Hello Folks Iam Searching for a Open Source Web Analysis Tool for windows platform , which can give me data like page views , visits , etc . I have heard about awstats , Is there any other tool which is even more powerfull then awstats -saurabh why not just use the google analytics ? its what urchin used to be, and is considered to be quite good by people - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS Linux, and source code availability
Gora Mohanty wrote: Hi, I seem to remember a discussion on this some time ago, but am not sure what the conclusion was. I was reminded of this in the meeting yesterday, and when I visit the BossLinux site, I see no place to download source code, nor any mention that such is available. Specifically, the download page, http://bosslinux.in/downloads has no such note. Is this not a GPL violation? Would someone from FSF-India be willing to take this up with CDAC, and BossLinux? *giggle* I had this conversation with some people from BossLinux a while back.. damn, I forget when this was. Maybe 18 months +, can dig through the emails and find out who / when etc. But the result of the conversation went something along the lines of : we have some .diff's somewhere obscure- but there will be a svn within the next few days.. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Web Analysis Tool
http://site24x7.com/index.html?q=QurJhkVY check this utility provide by zoho On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:52 AM, saurabh vadhera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Folks Iam Searching for a Open Source Web Analysis Tool for windows platform , which can give me data like page views , visits , etc . I have heard about awstats , Is there any other tool which is even more powerfull then awstats -saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- ** Vinay Yadav B.tech(IT) , JSSATEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] del.icio.us/vinayrks *** ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Useful Rescue Compilation
http://ikkiboot.tuxfamily.org/ http://download.tuxfamily.org/ikkiboot/Ikki_Boot_1.7.iso It is a compilation of various data rescue tools. Most of these can be accessed from the boot menu. It includes three mini-distributions - Parted Magic, RIPLinuX and Toutou Linux (a French desktop distribution based on Puppy Linux). The boot menu also provides a quick access to Memtest86+ , Super Grub Disk, Nuke (a utility that safely erases hard disk content) etc. Most of the utilities on the CD are provided in their English versions. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Useful Rescue Compilation
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Mani A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://ikkiboot.tuxfamily.org/ http://download.tuxfamily.org/ikkiboot/Ikki_Boot_1.7.iso It is a compilation of various data rescue tools. Most of these can be accessed from the boot menu. It includes three mini-distributions - Parted Magic, RIPLinuX and Toutou Linux (a French desktop distribution based on Puppy Linux). The boot menu also provides a quick access to Memtest86+ , Super Grub Disk, Nuke (a utility that safely erases hard disk content) etc. Most of the utilities on the CD are provided in their English versions. Try Billix, which also does some of the things which you mentioned, quite handy and it is in english! http://sourceforge.net/projects/billix has also both usb and ISO formats. Regards Yash ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/