Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:56:21 -0700 Nitin Jaswal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bharat, Nitin Jaswal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has requested to be your friend on orkut. To confirm or reject this request click http://www.orkut.co.in/FriendAdd.aspx?accept=trueuid=5080245646850238854 [...] I will ask again: Can we make it policy on this list that morons like this be immediately put on moderation (actually, my preference would be a one-month ban), without further notice? Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Interesting article
Quoting the first paragraph - If you've ever used Microsoft Access or Excel, you have likely used a product that Mike Gunderloy had a hand in developing. The irony is that Gunderloy himself doesn't use those products anymore. He's given up Microsoft for open source -- and he's not going back. http://www.linux.com/feature/142083 -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:56:21 -0700 Nitin Jaswal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bharat, Nitin Jaswal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has requested to be your friend on orkut. To confirm or reject this request click http://www.orkut.co.in/FriendAdd.aspx?accept=trueuid=5080245646850238854 [...] I will ask again: Can we make it policy on this list that morons like this be immediately put on moderation (actually, my preference would be a one-month ban), without further notice? Regards, Gora Hi all. I would have donated for the ammunition, but i think it is a mistake. Was it? -- Thanks and kind Regards, Abhishek jain ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tuesday 05 Aug 2008, abhishek jain wrote: Hi all. I would have donated for the ammunition, but i think it is a mistake. Was it? Such spams occur when users (Gora used a better word) sign up for services and readily reveal their Gmail, Yahoo!, Hotmail userids/passwords during the sign up process. These individuals would not give the same to you if you were to ask them - social engineering. -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 Aug 2008, abhishek jain wrote: Hi all. I would have donated for the ammunition, but i think it is a mistake. Was it? Such spams occur when users (Gora used a better word) sign up for services and readily reveal their Gmail, Yahoo!, Hotmail userids/passwords during the sign up process. Just curious.. How can a mail originating from [EMAIL PROTECTED] get to the list? If I am not wrong, the email needs to be part of the list before it can post a message to the list? -- Maku http://www.makuchaku.info ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
if you think over it, this is generally not the problem of the user. And if some user prevent it from happenning event when using such site (as he knows this may happen when he reveals the Orkut or other will send the mails to their friends), then that guy is little genius or more accurately he already knew about it. So, just it can be thought to forgive such thing, and we should focus over how to prevent such occurences rather than shouting over the person. The beginners won't always know these things, and will learn/get experience over time. Take Care -- -=Ravi=- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:32 PM, मयंक जैन (makuchaku) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious.. How can a mail originating from [EMAIL PROTECTED] get to the list? If I am not wrong, the email needs to be part of the list before it can post a message to the list? From a 2 year old Orkut invitation's mail, I found that Orkut Spam Solution encodes the spammer's email address in 'Sender' field of the mail header: Quoting from RFC2822: 88 3.6.2. Originator fields The originator fields of a message consist of the from field, the sender field (when applicable), and optionally the reply-to field. The from field consists of the field name From and a comma-separated list of one or more mailbox specifications. If the from field contains more than one mailbox specification in the mailbox-list, then the sender field, containing the field name Sender and a single mailbox specification, MUST appear in the message. In either case, an optional reply-to field MAY also be included, which contains the field name Reply-To and a comma-separated list of one or more addresses. from= From: mailbox-list CRLF sender = Sender: mailbox CRLF reply-to= Reply-To: address-list CRLF The originator fields indicate the mailbox(es) of the source of the message. The From: field specifies the author(s) of the message, that is, the mailbox(es) of the person(s) or system(s) responsible for the writing of the message. The Sender: field specifies the mailbox of the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the message. For example, if a secretary were to send a message for another person, the mailbox of the secretary would appear in the Sender: field and the mailbox of the actual author would appear in the From: field. If the originator of the message can be indicated by a single mailbox and the author and transmitter are identical, the Sender: field SHOULD NOT be used. Otherwise, both fields SHOULD appear. 88 HTH -- Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Whats the diff btwn USB Storage and Harddisk?
Whats the difference between a USB Storage Device [Pen Drive] and a regular harddisk, in so far as they present themselves to an Operating System and BIOS? The question springs from a fact that I was told: When we install an OS on the PenDrive, the concept of MBR is not what it is for a Hard disk. What it is then?? Is it different when we use a regular harddisk attached to a USB port, through an external casing? anand ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:15:20 +0530 Ravi Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Decent argument about the possibility of mistakes snipped] I quite agree with what you say, and what others have said. I am prepared to believe that it is not the moron^Wuser that is primarily to blame, but the unethical social networking sites, who absolutely rank among spammers (in my book, this includes popular sites like Facebook and Orkut by the way). However, given that this has been going on for a while (I get an average of one such unsolicited invitation either personally, or worse yet, on a list every few days), I think that we have to take pro-active steps to stop this nonsense: Hit the spammers, or their facilitators (however innocent), where it hurts. I am quite rude in replies to such personal mail, and make sure to locally black-list senders. I would really like my proposal of a one-month ban, but simple moderation is fine, too. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Whats the diff btwn USB Storage and Harddisk?
On 8/5/08, Anand Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats the difference between a USB Storage Device [Pen Drive] and a regular harddisk, in so far as they present themselves to an Operating System and BIOS? The question springs from a fact that I was told: When we install an OS on the PenDrive, the concept of MBR is not what it is for a Hard disk. What it is then?? Is it different when we use a regular harddisk attached to a USB port, through an external casing? MBR is defined as the 0th sector of a hard disk (or any other storage media, which can be partitioned, which means CD/DVD don't contain MBR). Wikipedia contains a good article on MBR[1], which as far as I can see is correct. As a user of an OS booting from USB flash drive, I find it no different than HDDs, except for the performance. What I can do on HDD, I can do it on USB disk also. And even if it is exposed through IDE-to-USB adapter, I don't think (thinks, because I never booted from one) there'll be any difference. References: [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record Ashish -- Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:15:10 +0530 Ashish Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:32 PM, मयंक जैन (makuchaku) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious.. How can a mail originating from [EMAIL PROTECTED] get to the list? If I am not wrong, the email needs to be part of the list before it can post a message to the list? From a 2 year old Orkut invitation's mail, I found that Orkut Spam Solution encodes the spammer's email address in 'Sender' field of the mail header: [...] How do the unethical spammers like Orkut (yes, this includes *you*, Google Search) manage this in the USA? Isn't this illegal under the CAN-SPAM act (never heard of a law that was better named). Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On 8/5/08, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] How do the unethical spammers like Orkut (yes, this includes *you*, Google Search) manage this in the USA? Isn't this illegal under the CAN-SPAM act (never heard of a law that was better named). I also think their mail violates, CAN-SPAM act[1], since their invites don't contain any valid postal address of the sender. BtW, how about some non-lazy person clicking on opt-out links of such lists ? References: [1] - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/canspam.shtm Ashish -- Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Bruce Perens: Microsoft and Apache - What's the Angle?
For a decade, Microsoft was open source's worst enemy, combating it at every turn. But last week Microsoft joined the Apache open source project as a platinum sponsor, promising to put $100,000 per year into a project that beats its own IIS (Internet Information Services) in the market. Microsoft also made some of their patents available for use in GPL software like Linux without a royalty. Has Redmond given up the fight? Or is this just their latest strategy? Read full story at http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3762786/Bruce+Perens:+Microsoft+and+Apache+-+Whats+the+Angle?.htm Regards Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tuesday 05 Aug 2008, Gora Mohanty wrote: How do the unethical spammers like Orkut (yes, this includes *you*, Google Search) manage this in the USA? Isn't this illegal under the CAN-SPAM act (never heard of a law that was better named). I am guessing, in the fine print, alongside the I agree button, the user consents to such activity. The offender can claim, the user gave access to his/her address book voluntarily (by readily coughing up userid/password during the sign up process). From what I have observed the SPAM comes only once as an invite to join the bleh service; it is a thin line between legit and SPAM. -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] orkut - Nitin has sent you a friend request
On Tuesday 05 Aug 2008, मयंक जैन (makuchaku) wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 Aug 2008, abhishek jain wrote: Hi all. I would have donated for the ammunition, but i think it is a mistake. Was it? Such spams occur when users (Gora used a better word) sign up for services and readily reveal their Gmail, Yahoo!, Hotmail userids/passwords during the sign up process. Just curious.. How can a mail originating from [EMAIL PROTECTED] get to the list? If I am not wrong, the email needs to be part of the list before it can post a message to the list? This is my high level understanding of how SMTP works: 1. The sending MTA packs your message (headers and contents) into an envelope (similar to what we do in snail mail) with a To and From header. 2. The receiving MTA opens the envelope and delivers the content to our mailbox. The headers and such that we see, are part of the message and not the envelope. The envelope is discarded. http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/1123/86.htm The rogue senders are most likely populating the From header in the envelope properly and such it is accepted by the mailing list. -- Arun Khan -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Perl script errors - parsing config file
Hi,
You'll have to make some changes in your script. Those have been highlighted
in blue and red color below.
It'll run now.
Cheers
Sonika
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Sudeep Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
I have copied this script from this url which solves one of my purpose of
parsing a config file. Here is the URL
http://www.motreja.com/ankur/examplesinperl/parsing_config_files.htm
Now when I am running the script I am getting these errors:
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at config_parser.pl line
26.
Use of uninitialized value in split at config_parser.pl line 27.
Use of uninitialized value in hash element at config_parser.pl line 28.
Here is the copy of script, may be there is something which I am not doing
properly. Could someone please help me running this script successfully.
=script begins
#! perl -w
$path_and_filename=data.txt;
%Config=(); #global variable
# Call the subroutine
parse_config_file ($path_and_filename, \%Config);
foreach $Config_key (keys %Config) {
print $Config_key = $Config{$Config_key}\n;
}
sub parse_config_file {
local ($config_line, $Name, $Value, $Config);
($File, $Config) = @_;
if (!open (CONFIG, $File)) {
print ERROR: Config file not found : $File;
exit(0);
}
#while () {
while ($config_line=CONFIG) {
# $config_line=$_;
chop ($config_line); # Get rid of the trailling \n
if ($config_line !~ /^#/) {# Ignore lines starting with # and
blank lines
($Name, $Value) = split (/=/, $config_line); # Split
each line into name value pairs
$$Config{$Name} = $Value;
$Name=$Value=; #reinitialize the variables
# Create a hash of the name value pairs
}
}
close(CONFIG);
}
=script ends==
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[ilugd] Summary workshop for 2007 RGF-Sarai FLOSS fellowships: 9/10 Aug., Sarai
Hello everyone, Below is an announcement for a summary workshop for the 2007 RGF-Sarai FLOSS fellowship workshop to be held at Sarai over Sat., 9th Aug., and the first half of Sun., 10th Aug. A detailed agenda will follow once we confirm participation from our out-of-station fellows. The workshop will also be followed by an ILUG-D meeting at 3pm on Sun., at the same venue. Please see the other announcement. Regards, Gora 9 and 10 August 2008 Seminar Room Sarai-CSDS The Sarai independent FLOSS Fellowships enable programmers to research and develop different kinds of open source software applications. Typically, these are projects of concrete and practical value, especially for social and educational ends. They are also the kinds of projects that would not usually find support in formal, institutional or market-driven settings, either because of the intent/nature of the goal or because of the 'open' nature of the knowledge thus produced/created. This year, we had partnered with the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation (RGF) who are providing support for work in the specific area of computing, and localisation in five Indian languages, namely, Assamese, Hindi, Kashmiri, Oriya, and Urdu. The summary workshop is a forum for fellows to present their work to the larger FLOSS community, and to seek further engagement with the projects. All are invited to take part in these enriching discussions. The Sarai- CSDS FLOSS Fellows 2007: Sawood Alam, et al: Urdu localisation of GNOME, a FOSS desktop for computers. Anand Kulkarni: Localisation of guides to OpenOffice, and other software in Marathi, and Urdu. Sachin Joshi, Venkatesh Keri: Speech-to-text in Hindi, with application to other languages. Rakesh Pandit, et al: Localisation of the GNOME desktop in Kashmiri. Dr. N. M. Pattnaik, et al: Two fellowships for technical glossary in Oriya. Ravishankar Shrivastava*: Hindi localisation of a FOSS computer desktop. C. S. Yogananda, and D. Shivashankar: Publishing in Indian languages using TeX, applicable to all major Indian languages. Amitakhaya Phukan: Assamese localisation of GNOME, a FOSS desktop for computers. --- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
