[ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Dear Sirs, Thank you all for good bad appreciating and threatening comments.I shall keep respecting all even if they do not respect me.This happens when complex issues are debated.First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.” This is the one of the comment made by PC Quest Reader.According to him he states as follows. According to GPL Redhat cannot put any restriction on RHEL redistribution. But if redhat put restrictions in any distribution of GPLed softwares in aggregate , it violates the license agreement GPL..But when REDHAT do modify Fedora which is community made and distribute it as derived version of Fedora , you (Redhat) can't put any restrictions on redistribution that will negate any of the conditions in FSF's definition of free software and freedoms. PC QUEST is most admired IT magazine .It also brings every year Linux distribution.This year PCQ Linux 2008 .. PCQLinux 2008 Core was built from scratch to have a minimal installer and installed footprint so as to be a powerful host system for running virtual .This distribution is based on CentOS 5.1. Therefore it shares the same installer technology as the original-which is the RPM format. RPM stands for RedHat Package Manager after the creators of this packaging method.This also can be taken as opening locked gate of RHEL as it also is based on CentOS which has already opened the gate of locked RHEL.Redhat should take note of most popular voice of community.What redhat achieves by locking the main gate of the RHEL distribution when inside all gates are open.RHEL lock does not work.Is Redhat is gate keeper and wachman with the key in hand to give every body the key to open the main gate without any objection.This is mockery of GPL and Trademarks laws.It needs only common sense to understand.It does not need rocket science to understansd this isuue. PC QUEST has published cover story entitled the complete guide to open source and free software.i am extractung two paragraph from it to defend the GPL..The gist of this paragraph is this. But if you put restrictions in any distribution of GPLed softwares aggregate , it violates the license agreement.But when you do modify and distribute it, you can't put any restrictions that will negate any of the conditions in FSF's definition of free software.I am Extracting of two paragraph from march 2008 PC QUEST Magzine with due credit to PCQ.IT says.The other definition of free software has been created by the FSF or Free Software Foundation (www.fsf.org). The FSF was formed by Richard Stallman, the founder of GNU software and the famous GNU General Public License (GPL). The FSF has its own definition of free software. In this definition, free does not mean 'no cost'. It's free as in freedom or liberty to run, modify, distribute, or improve the software. Needless to say that access to the program's source code is a must to fulfils at least three of these needs.GNU software and GPLed software come under this 'free' software definition, i.e. you have the right to run it for your own requirements, modify its source code to suite your needs, distribute it for free or even sell it. But when you do modify and distribute it, you can't put any restrictions that will negate any of the conditions in FSF's definition of free software. For instance, you must distribute the source code along with the program as a part of the agreement. But if you put restrictions, it violates the license agreement. You can read the full article at http://pcquest.ciol.com/content/search/showarticle1.asp?arid=103073mode=disp I SHALL CONTINUE TO RECIEVE COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC.ALL ARE WELCOME . M.S.Yatnatti KPN UNLIMITED Corporate Office:No.18/6, Executive chambers, Cunningham Road, Bangalore – 560052. WEBSITE WWW.KPNUNLIMITED.ORG ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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Re: [ilugd] foss-based web-cloud for slide-sharing and slide-casting using creativecommons or similar.
in infinite wisdom Linux Lingam spoke thus On 10/06/2008 01:37 AM: dear all, wish to author, present, and share slides, using nothing but a web-browser. advantages: 1. author anywhere, from any platform. 2. present to an audience using nothing but a web-browser on a computer connected to an overheadprojector and the internet. 3. publish slides under a cc or similar license for archiving and sharing. 4. ... and a few more. I think the S5 will meet your needs. http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ Make slides in HTML host slides on your webbrowser. I have used it a few times. My preferance still lies with using soffice or LaTeX (to get pdf slides) -- raj shekhar facts: http://rajshekhar.net opinions: http://rajshekhar.net/blog I've never made anyone's life easier and you know it! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Lett er To Linux For You India
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Sirs, Thank you all for good bad appreciating and threatening comments.I shall keep respecting all even if they do not respect me.This happens when complex issues are debated. [snip rest of cobbled-together statements] I wonder if this so-called M S Yatnatti is actually a sophisticated perl script that gathers together randoms strings that are tenously linked to each other and mashes them together to form an incoherent, dribbling, gibbering whole. I tried to follow the logic of MSY's last mail. But after raising several warnings my brain blew a fuse and refused to continue to parse it. PJ PS: Respect is what you get if you listen and respond logically. You simply aren't doing that. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Dear PJ, I really unable to understand why my mails in the list are cobbling.Don't worry about that . In few days I shall have document neatly typed in very proper manner..Do you thinkh that we don't need GPL any more or GPL is strong , which can defend the internal and external threats.Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? if so why? Under what provision of trademark law Redhat claims the copyrights and where it has registered the copyrights for RHEL. Does it own RHEL..How redhat is GPL compliant.Fedora is upstream and open gate when it flow down stream in the name of RHEL its gate are shut.which is derived version of Fedora becomes owned by Redhat under trademarks. Your views might be diffrent than others .Please let me know your views only .Let us know your logic. M.S.Yatnatti ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Reminder: G.I.S.S. multimedia workshop at Sarai, Sat., 11 Oct., 11am
Hi, Just to remind people, there will be a multimedia workshop at Sarai, CSDS, this Sat., the 11 of Oct., starting from 11am. This event will be more in the nature of an informal discussion group, rather than a formal workshop. I have updated the page at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/GISSMultimediaWorkshop, and directions to the venue are also available there. Some interesting technology will also be on display, such as computer vision. The examples that Yves showed me looked pretty neat. Please see the Wiki page for details. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] List of FOSS for 2020 AD
I have tried to put together a list of areas in which FOSS products should be available widely by 2020AD. The idea is to host the list at a public site, with links on each area, leading to a sublist. There can be two activities that this list can be used for: 1. Identifying exiting FOSS that fulfill the needs 2. Start new FOSS projects ( :) Ab India bolega) http://abhi-freestyle.blogspot.com/2008/10/free-open-source-software-for-2020ad.html Regards, Abhishek Choudhary MSc MA MA BBA Chartered IT Professional(UK) MBCS(UK) MIET(UK) MIEEE SrMCSI Pune, INDIA WWW: http://cognitist.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +91-9860700184 Affiliations: AAAI, ACM, BCS, CogSci, CSI, IEEE (CS/ComSoc/NNS/RAS/SMCS/VTS), IET, INCOSE, SAE From Assembly to Lisp in your mother tongue http://hindawi.in --- On Thu, 10/9/08, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:48 PM Dear PJ, I really unable to understand why my mails in the list are cobbling.Don't worry about that . In few days I shall have document neatly typed in very proper manner..Do you thinkh that we don't need GPL any more or GPL is strong , which can defend the internal and external threats.Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? if so why? Under what provision of trademark law Redhat claims the copyrights and where it has registered the copyrights for RHEL. Does it own RHEL..How redhat is GPL compliant.Fedora is upstream and open gate when it flow down stream in the name of RHEL its gate are shut.which is derived version of Fedora becomes owned by Redhat under trademarks. Your views might be diffrent than others .Please let me know your views only .Let us know your logic. M.S.Yatnatti ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] List of FOSS for 2020 AD
http://abhi-freestyle.blogspot.com/2008/10/free-open-source-software-for-2020ad.html The original message had a copy-paste error and refelected contents from another thread - due apologies! -Abhishek ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
[there is no sane way I could unwrap the word wrap in this mail - apologies in advance] M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote: I really unable to understand why my mails in the list are cobbling.Don't worry about that . In few days I shall have document neatly typed in very proper manner..Do you thinkh that we don't need GPL� any more or GPL is strong , which can defend the internal and external threats.Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? if so why? Under what provision of trademark law� Redhat claims the copyrights and where it has registered the copyrights for RHEL. Does it own RHEL..How redhat is GPL compliant.Fedora is upstream and open gate when it flow down stream in the name of RHEL its gate are shut.which is� derived version of Fedora becomes owned by Redhat under trademarks. Your views might be diffrent than others .Please let me know your views only .Let us know your logic. It appears that you have exhausted the response pool of the list. If so, while you are typing out all the points raised by you, would it also be possible for you to visit http://www.redhat.com/legal/legal_statement.html (unless you have already done so) along with http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/trademark/ and http://www.redhat.com/legal/legal_statement.html#claim http://www.redhat.com/about/contact/ would provide you more information. It is always a good idea to attempt to contact the vendor, as opposed to a general list about questions on a vendor's product. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
