Re: [ilugd] Freed.in planning meeting: Wed., 7/1, 6pm, DDA Flats, Munirka

2009-01-10 Thread shirish
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:28, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net wrote:
 Hello everyone,
  Below is the announcement for the next planning meeting
 for Freed.in 2009. This is a public meeting, and everyone
 is welcome to attend. Anyone planning on volunteering for
 the event, should try to be at the meeting.

   Event:Freed.in 2009 meeting
   Date: Wed., Jan 7th
   Time: 6pm
   Agenda:   o Outreach
 o Speakers
 o Committees, and volunteers
   Participants: All on this list.
   Venue:BB/3G, DDA Flats, Munirka
   Contact:  Me (9868527992)

Hi all,
 Are there are any minutes of what transpired. I would be coming to
attend Freed.in 2009 and would be interested to know what things are
cooking.

If there is a specific announce list or some other list which I need
to subscribe in order to know more, please lemme know.

 Regards,
 Gora

  Regards,
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[ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread Niyaz
Hi,

I need your suggestions friends.
My friend has two machines which he wants to use as test LAMP servers.
He would also use the same machines as a mail servers.
He wants to keep the two machine in sync so that if one of those fails
(for any reason) the mails and LAMP business keep going on the other
machine.

How can we do this?

Thanks to you all,
niyaz



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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread narendra sisodiya
I think, rsync can help  have a rysn server on primary machine..
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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread Niyaz
On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 22:21 +0530, narendra sisodiya wrote:
 I think, rsync can help  have a rysn server on primary machine..

Thank you for the suggestion, i am reading about it.


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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread Ramkumar R
 My friend has two machines which he wants to use as test LAMP servers.
 He would also use the same machines as a mail servers.
 He wants to keep the two machine in sync so that if one of those fails
 (for any reason) the mails and LAMP business keep going on the other
 machine.

Assuming he's writing code, I'm guessing one's his development server
and the other's his production server. If that is the case, do use a
versioning system and work on two different branches.


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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread Niyaz
On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 22:59 +0530, Ramkumar R wrote:
  My friend has two machines which he wants to use as test LAMP servers.
  He would also use the same machines as a mail servers.
  He wants to keep the two machine in sync so that if one of those fails
  (for any reason) the mails and LAMP business keep going on the other
  machine.
 
 Assuming he's writing code, I'm guessing one's his development server
 and the other's his production server. If that is the case, do use a
 versioning system and work on two different branches.
 
 

I need to clarify here,
He will code on his own workstation/laptop.
Those both machines will be production servers.
He just need to keep them in sync,  so that everything goes on if any 
of those two machines are down.

Please let me know if any further clarification is required.



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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Angad Singh an...@angadsingh.in wrote:

 -Rsync for sync'ing files
 -mysql replication for syncing the database

I was not aware of this , for a perfect HA backup system, what other
constraint we need to consider ?


 and you need a high availablility clustering agent to get that
 always-available behaviour.


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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread Angad Singh
-Rsync for sync'ing files
-mysql replication for syncing the database

and you need a high availablility clustering agent to get that
always-available behaviour.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Niyaz lists.ni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 22:59 +0530, Ramkumar R wrote:
   My friend has two machines which he wants to use as test LAMP servers.
   He would also use the same machines as a mail servers.
   He wants to keep the two machine in sync so that if one of those fails
   (for any reason) the mails and LAMP business keep going on the other
   machine.
 
  Assuming he's writing code, I'm guessing one's his development server
  and the other's his production server. If that is the case, do use a
  versioning system and work on two different branches.
 
 

 I need to clarify here,
 He will code on his own workstation/laptop.
 Those both machines will be production servers.
 He just need to keep them in sync,  so that everything goes on if any
 of those two machines are down.

 Please let me know if any further clarification is required.



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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread Niyaz
On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 23:29 +0530, narendra sisodiya wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Angad Singh an...@angadsingh.in wrote:
 
  -Rsync for sync'ing files
  -mysql replication for syncing the database
 
 I was not aware of this , for a perfect HA backup system, what other
 constraint we need to consider ?
 
 
  and you need a high availablility clustering agent to get that
  always-available behaviour.
 

HI again,

Is it possible, that the two machine be exact replica of each other
(which remain in sync), running in parallel so that we have a fail-over
system? 

Umm.. I am having this strong feeling that its possible, but I don't
know how is it done.
Please give me some pointers.

Thanks again,
Niyaz



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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread Raj Mathur
On Saturday 10 Jan 2009, narendra sisodiya wrote:
 I was not aware of this , for a perfect HA backup system, what other
 constraint we need to consider ?

The first thing you need for high availability is data sharing.  If the 
applications permit it, you can have separate stores and 
application-level sync (e.g. replication in MySQL).  If the application 
doesn't do sync by itself (e.g. mail), you need a highly available 
shared data store between the two servers.  Ideally you would have some 
sort of NAS or SAN storage with multiple network paths, dual or triple 
power supplies and dual redundant RAID and disk controllers.

Apart from the shared storage you need a heartbeat and address and 
process migration infrastructure.  The Linux HA project provides these 
facilities IIRC.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] police: is your wifi secured?

2009-01-10 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:22:48 +0530
Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote:

 hope the cops use gnu/linux on their laptops rather than some proprietary os:
 
 http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090079455
[...]

Bah! Window-dressing for the abject failure of the police,
and military in Bombay.

Here is a challenge! My Wifi is absolutely unsecured, and as
far as I know is being used by the likes of terrorists like
Kasab. Come arrest me, morons.

The truth is that so are 90+% of Wifis in India. Throw all
of us into jail.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] police: is your wifi secured?

2009-01-10 Thread Nandeep Mali
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:22:48 +0530
 Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote:

 hope the cops use gnu/linux on their laptops rather than some proprietary os:

 http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090079455
 [...]

 Bah! Window-dressing for the abject failure of the police,
 and military in Bombay.

 Here is a challenge! My Wifi is absolutely unsecured, and as
 far as I know is being used by the likes of terrorists like
 Kasab. Come arrest me, morons.

 The truth is that so are 90+% of Wifis in India. Throw all
 of us into jail.

Hear hear! I totally agree with this opinion. They jump around doing
meaningless things when they have a security failure. And I have
noticed *too* many open source connections for this to gain any
measure of success.

+258(~) bytes from me

Regards
Nandeep

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Re: [ilugd] police: is your wifi secured?

2009-01-10 Thread Arun SAG
They think wep cannot be cracked? May be atleast not  by all.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net wrote:
  On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:22:48 +0530
  Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  hope the cops use gnu/linux on their laptops rather than some
 proprietary os:
 
  http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090079455
  [...]
 
  Bah! Window-dressing for the abject failure of the police,
  and military in Bombay.
 
  Here is a challenge! My Wifi is absolutely unsecured, and as
  far as I know is being used by the likes of terrorists like
  Kasab. Come arrest me, morons.
 
  The truth is that so are 90+% of Wifis in India. Throw all
  of us into jail.

 Hear hear! I totally agree with this opinion. They jump around doing
 meaningless things when they have a security failure. And I have
 noticed *too* many open source connections for this to gain any
 measure of success.

 +258(~) bytes from me

 Regards
 Nandeep

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Re: [ilugd] police: is your wifi secured?

2009-01-10 Thread Shiv

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [ilugd] police: is your wifi secured?
 To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
 Date: Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 9:29 AM
 They think wep cannot be cracked? May be atleast not  by
 all.
 

What do we expect next? Banning of all cell phones, bicycles, garbage dumps 
5-star hotels blah blah...

Instead of wasting time on these activities, they could do well to equip the 
armed forces with night vision goggles, ability to pull up blueprints of all 
major buildings ellectronically, ability to connect to the surveillance camera 
feeds of these buildings as and when required, secure communications eqpts, 
battering rams to open doors rather than blow them up with explosives.


With Warm Regards, 
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Re: [ilugd] Syncing Servers

2009-01-10 Thread vikram ranade
The first step would be to ensure that the data used by the lamp
applications and mail servers is replicated on both the machines
in near real time.
this can be done thru DRBD and a network share like (NFS or iscsi)

DRBD is kind of a RAID 1 over a network.If one of the drives or servers goes
down then the other one assumes its identity
 and the application accesses the data over a network as if nothing
happened.

The next is to have a HA daemon such as Heartbeat that monitors the services
that you want to have always running.
This will monitor if the Primary server has failed and in such an event will
make the secondary server the primary server
(meaning that the secondary server will assume the identity of the promary
and will continue to service client/service
 requests)

Hope this helps
Vikram Ranade
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Re: [ilugd] police: is your wifi secured?

2009-01-10 Thread Mehul Ved
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:
 They think wep cannot be cracked? May be atleast not  by all.

WEP can be easily cracked but WPA not so easily.
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