Re: [ilugd] oracle buys sun
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:37:11 +0530 Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I shared a perspective about my excitement at the opportunity and challenges--- for the good folks at Oracle in terms of business model and strategy... on acquisition of a product that was till now open source. Personally I feel the opportunity to innovate on a business model and technology-- with total unconstrained freedom-- is a exciting challenge and opportunity-- notwithstanding any queasiness I and many more may have about Oracle's intentions. This is clearly going nowhere, and I for one am going to let it drop. However, at least as far as I am concerned active promotion of proprietary companies, and espousal of their methodologies, is not germane to this list. --- Gora wrote: Customer discontent? Bah to you, and your ilk. Gora, do not use language like you and your ilk upon me. I respect your age, seniority and qualifications but even you better refrain from such personal attacks-- and limit yourself to debating and/or criticising the idea rather than degrading a individual's caste or ethnicity. [...] Er, what? In the context, ilk refers to people with positions similar to yours. I am not sure how you managed to read that statement as being about caste and ethnicity. In any case, such was absolutely not my intention, and never will be. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] oracle buys sun
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net wrote: On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:37:11 +0530 Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I shared a perspective about my excitement at the opportunity and challenges--- for the good folks at Oracle in terms of business model and strategy... on acquisition of a product that was till now open source. Personally I feel the opportunity to innovate on a business model and snip --- Gora wrote: Customer discontent? Bah to you, and your ilk. Gora, do not use language like you and your ilk upon me. I respect your age, seniority and qualifications but even you better refrain from such personal attacks-- and limit yourself to debating and/or criticising the idea rather than degrading a individual's caste or ethnicity. [...] Er, what? In the context, ilk refers to people with positions similar to yours. I am not sure how you managed to read that statement as being about caste and ethnicity. In any case, such was absolutely not my intention, and never will be. Thanks for the clarification-- that really helped. Personally, earlier in life-- I have dealt with people who would first curse the bania blood or trader mindset or punjabi mentality-- and after seeing oneself maintain a decent silence on that--- they would go further-- and indulge in full-scale bullying or discrimination. That's the reason when in doubt; I personally draw a line and ask the other guy to stop-- rather than assume good intentions-- and have someone think they can walk over oneself OR one's beliefs/history. Thanks for the clarification and Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] MS: A history of Anticompetitive behavior and consumer harm
Paper written by European Committee for Interoperable Systems: Microsoft: A history of Anticompetitive behavior and consumer harm http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf In brief: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009042327711 -- Regards, Tirveni Yadav What is this Universe ? From what it arises ? Into what does it go? In freedom it arises, In freedom it rests and into freedom it melts away. Upanishads. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Help: Linux Mobile
I want to know about linux mobiles to buy in recent future , in which have most user friendly functions. Regards Sarath ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Help: Linux Mobile
Motorola A1600 only feature missing is Wifi On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:28 PM, sarath babu.mg sarathbabu...@gmail.comwrote: I want to know about linux mobiles to buy in recent future , in which have most user friendly functions. Regards Sarath ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Kapil Dua Skype: mitr2mitr IRC: kaps Mobile: +919711311052 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Help: Linux Mobile
Ok thanks for the kind replay Question: - Only Motorola Company is producing Linux Mobiles ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Pirate Bay judge hilarity
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/23/pirate_bay_judge_accused_of_bias/ For anyone following the case, it's gone way beyond farce. BTW, the Pirate Party is now the 4th biggest political party in Sweden. Oh, we live in interesting times alright! PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Ubuntu -9.04 Released
See http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1209275cid=27687527 Best A.Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] request to remove my name from this mail chain
Please remove my name from this mail chain. My name is there in this list by mistake. I am no where related to linux. thank you. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Pirate Bay judge hilarity
For anyone following the case, it's gone way beyond farce. It's the icing on the cake. BTW, the Pirate Party is now the 4th biggest political party in Sweden. Compared to the 2000 members they had 3 yrs back when they first got raided. Oh, we live in interesting times alright! Interesting times indeed! ;-) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [ilug-calinfo] Re: Ubuntu -9.04 Released
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, dan dantrev...@gmail.com wrote: Even better: http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-server-i386.iso.torrent And someone needs to organize a release party in India! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties#Asia The weather is bad in Kolkata. Max temp ~43 C. But on the next LUG meeting we can have a release party... sometime in May. I don't know about Delhi. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] some sony LCD tv screens use GPL and copyleft software
thought you'd find this interesting. stumbled across it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_bravia haven't found anyone hacking them. yet. so that means millions of people will experience the 'invisible' linux: my term for those who use linux without knowing they're using it. for example in mobilephones, in tv sets, and washing machines. regards niyam -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] oracle buys sun
meanwhile, i've been thinking of openofice, and the whole ODF and open-standards battle around it. gotta hand it to oracle. they *never* dreamt of making a foss suite like openoffice.org. sun did. now what will oracle do with it? am also thinking of javafx. not oracle's core domain expertise area. but the battle for a viable flash alternative that brings a lot of interactivity and rich internet experience is paramount. on the other hand, i hope oracle gets inspired by its collection of software to start considering converting its model away from software licenses to services, thereby making oracle software foss. what about sun's hardware? all those storage, network, and other solutions? oracle is into selling software, and often they run their software on hardware from other vendors. i think oracle might lop off the hardware business, and throw it over the great wall of china, inspired by ibm's impressive move with lenovo. so let me see what else am i going to miss? ah yes, the mesmerizing sun logo. i'd shudder to see oracle's drab logo blanketing all things from the former sun. what else? oh my! will oracle be our partners for the next freed.in? regards niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] oracle buys sun
On Friday 24 Apr 2009, Linux Lingam wrote: meanwhile, i've been thinking of openofice, and the whole ODF and open-standards battle around it. gotta hand it to oracle. they *never* dreamt of making a foss suite like openoffice.org. sun did. now what will oracle do with it? Sun didn't create OpenOffice, they bought over Star Office from a German company and open-sourced it as Open Office. Since OOo didn't force developers to assign copyright to Sun (unlike MySQL), there is practically no way that Oracle would be able to make that into a proprietary product in the foreseeable future. The trade mark OpenOffice.org probably vests with Oracle today, so if they desire they can force the community to call OOo something else. No particular reason why they'd want to do that, though. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] request to remove my name from this mail chain
Gora ji Good Morning This one also want's to go out of Penguin Empire... *सजा बताये इसके लिए* Penguin Lover AjayB On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:52 PM, mayank shiromani mayankshirom...@gmail.com wrote: Please remove my name from this mail chain. My name is there in this list by mistake. I am no where related to linux. thank you. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] oracle buys sun
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:07 AM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: on the other hand, i hope oracle gets inspired by its collection of software to start considering converting its model away from software licenses to services, thereby making oracle software foss. You do realize that ORCL has had significant contributions to the 'plumbing bits of Linux'. http://oss.oracle.com/ and, just because it is a Friday - http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/webcomics/unbreakable-prophecy.svg from, http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/04/fedora-weekly-webcomic-unbreakable.html -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
