[ilugd] Openmoko, Symbian, Android

2008-10-06 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Any clues on how these compare on mobiles? Particularly Openmoko and
Android? Would the C/C++ thingy be a negative mark for Openmoko? I
understand there are license issues too (Symbian isn't 'yet' open
source, and Android is in Google's grip). But how does this reflect
when it comes to the user's interests? FN
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[ilugd] Lyx, My Beautiful GNU/Linux, Mind-Maps, and DP

2008-09-29 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Videos from Software Freedom Day at BITS Pilani Goa centre...

Lyx ... and all that
LyX is a document processor following the self-coined what you see is
what you mean paradigm (WYSIWYM), as opposed to the WYSIWYG ideas
used by word processors. This means that the user only has to care
about the structure and content of the text, while the formatting is
done by LaTeX, an advanced typesetting system. LyX is designed for
authors who want professional output with a minimum of effort and
without becoming specialists in typesetting. The job of typesetting is
done mostly by the computer, following a predefined set of rules
called a style, and not by the author. Specific knowledge of the LaTeX
document processing system is not necessary but may improve editing
with LyX significantly for specialist purposes. DP explains how he
uses this tool...  (quote from the Wikipedia)
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=F-03AtOx1Ps

My beautiful [GNU]Linux
BITS-Pilani Goa campus has grown over the past four to five years, and
now has over 2000 students on the outskirts of Vasco/Dabolim. At a
Software Freedom Day held on the campus recently (Sept 27, 2008) we
encounter students, and learn about their interest in Free Software
and Open Source. Also some images from an event that saw talks and
presentation span the better part of two days. This video starts with
a showcasing of the potential of GNU/Linux, the largely
volunteer-built alternative computing system... that's in fact better
than the 'real thing' (my view)!
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=Py6YdW03YYE

Mind-maps? What's all that about?
A mind map is a diagram used to represent words, ideas, tasks, or
other items linked to and arranged radially around a central key word
or idea. Mind maps are used to generate, visualize, structure, and
classify ideas, and as an aid in study, organization, problem solving,
decision making, and writing. DP explains at the BITS Pilani, Goa
centre. 27 September 2008.
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=k5689nG0FEU

---

On mind-maps, please check out some other excellent presentations also
on YouTube.

On Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_map#Origins

On YouTube.com:

Maximise the Power of Your Brain - Tony Buzan MIND MAPPING
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=MlabrWv25qQfeature=related

Mindmeister - Mindmaps with team spirit
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=FChJkOch0Fwfeature=related

Getting Things Done (GTD) with Mindmaps
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=THxauHwtUpMfeature=related

Mind-Maps How to mindmap
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=qWz88RHQS4sfeature=related

Smarter Mind Maps
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=3zdBkVvJkFUfeature=related

Mind Maps and Self Coaching
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=K2xezdpNifUfeature=related

Make Mind Maps with revolutionairy software from the creator
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=yY9IZoDjRwMfeature=related

How Mindmaps can help you learn a language
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=XVYDcTNI-_sfeature=related

MINDMAPS - my experience
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=mch8H7LHkHUfeature=related

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DP-1 at SFD (BITS Pilani Goa campusa, Sept 27, 2008)
Talk by young ILUG-Goa/ILUG-Ponda volunteer DP. He explains issues of
documentation that could be useful to any student and researcher.
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=QktwiBicJ1E

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[ilugd] Software For Kids

2008-08-08 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
SOFTWARE FOR KIDS: A new site focussing on what is freely available
(free-beer, free-speech) for helping children learn. Specially the
young ones, with a focus on India and South-Asia. Current links
include

* Yobler.com … educational videos
* The Digital Study Hall (DSH)
* ET? What's that? (An Aug 2008 conf in Bangalore)
* Educational power points…. http://pppst.com/ Pete's Power Point Station.
* Educational resources… from azimpremjifoundation.org
* Taking sharing to the classroom (downloadable FLOSS report)
* The 4000-rupee computer shows up in Goa
* Why Free Software makes sense in education
* Computer education for rural kids riddled with obstacles

http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
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[ilugd] A virtual visit to ILUG-Goa...

2008-07-17 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Freedom... at a Free Software meet

We invite you for a virtual meet of the India Linux Users Group-Goa at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4sQK7AZyDQ

ABOUT THE VIDEO: On the fourth Saturday of each month, a group of
volunteer-techies meets at the Goa Science Centre (Miramar), to share
knowledge and ideas. Strangely, this free-to-join, non-profit group has been
effective over the last eight years in building skills, sharing talent, and
keeping it going. More details at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa

DETAILS: ILUG-Goa was launched in February 2000. It has 583 members on its
mailing list, and upto 15 turn up each month for the meetings, hosted
generously by the (Government of India's) Science Centre, Miramar. Anyone
can join this network, and all it costs is a ten-rupee entry fee to the
venue for each meeting. The mailing-list is also open to all.

Please visit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4sQK7AZyDQ
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[ilugd] Tutorial for Devanagari Documents in LyX (from FOSS-Nepal)

2008-06-21 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
-- Forwarded message --
From: Prakash Manandhar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/6/21
Subject: [FOSS-Nepal] Tutorial for Devanagari Documents in LyX
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Suraj Adhikari (GMail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi,

I have written a tutorial for Devanagari Document creation in LyX at
WikiHow. LyX/LaTeX is a word processing alternative that is completely
open source and free.

Summary:
With the incorporation of XeLaTeX in all major distributions of LaTeX
including MikTeX, it has become easy to incorporate Devanagari and
other Unicode characters in LaTeX/LyX documents. Here we describe a
point-wise summary to help you do just that.

http://www.wikihow.com/Create-Devanagari-Documents-in-Lyx-Using-Xelatex

-

Please help me expand/test the how-to.

Thanks, jaH.

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[ilugd] FLOSS in schools... a syllabi for the Third Standard (eight/nine-year-old) student from India

2008-03-23 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Free software in schools. Download this from here
 http://www.divshare.com/download/4053521-61e


From Farida Umrani [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am working with Prof. Sridhar Iyer at Dept of Computer Science, IIT
 Bombay on content development for school computer science based on
 Edubuntu . We will have the content for elementary class ready in
 2008. I am sending you a draft of a textbook for class I (the file is
 bulky; hence split and send in two mails). [DOWNLOAD FROM URL ABOVE]
 At present, I am implementing this curriculum in one of the pilot
 schools. We have included Scratch as a programming language for
 students in Grade 3  4. Currently we are focusing on elementary
 classes and plan to scale it up in the next academic year.

 We are facing difficulties in getting the teachers familiar with open
 source. Most schools do not have a system administrator or even a
 regular Internet connection to get the regular updates and prefer an
 installable CD that gives them everything. But to a windows user, this
 does not appear intuitive and hence they are put off by it. I wanted
 to know about your experience with Goa schools? I have read that GCSP
 trained engineering students and teachers. Did these students help the
 local schools? We announced a training program for school teachers,
 but got poor response and therefore deferred it. Did you face similar
 problems? How did you deal with them?

 I myself have a Psychology background... and it has taken me several
 hours of work and reading up the forums to understand the installation
 and getting all the dependencies right. However, what is encouraging
 is that students have received the open source applications very well.
 I hope to learn from your experience at Goa.

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[ilugd] FLOSS in schools... a syllabi for the Third Standard (eight/nine-year-old) student from India

2008-03-18 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Free software in schools. Download this from here
  http://www.divshare.com/download/4053521-61e


  From Farida Umrani [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I am working with Prof. Sridhar Iyer at Dept of Computer Science, IIT
  Bombay on content development for school computer science based on
  Edubuntu . We will have the content for elementary class ready in
  2008. I am sending you a draft of a textbook for class I (the file is
  bulky; hence split and send in two mails). [DOWNLOAD FROM URL ABOVE]
  At present, I am implementing this curriculum in one of the pilot
  schools. We have included Scratch as a programming language for
  students in Grade 3  4. Currently we are focusing on elementary
  classes and plan to scale it up in the next academic year.

  We are facing difficulties in getting the teachers familiar with open
  source. Most schools do not have a system administrator or even a
  regular Internet connection to get the regular updates and prefer an
  installable CD that gives them everything. But to a windows user, this
  does not appear intuitive and hence they are put off by it. I wanted
  to know about your experience with Goa schools? I have read that GCSP
  trained engineering students and teachers. Did these students help the
  local schools? We announced a training program for school teachers,
  but got poor response and therefore deferred it. Did you face similar
  problems? How did you deal with them?

  I myself have a Psychology background... and it has taken me several
  hours of work and reading up the forums to understand the installation
  and getting all the dependencies right. However, what is encouraging
  is that students have received the open source applications very well.
  I hope to learn from your experience at Goa.
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[ilugd] OFFTOPIC: Voices on the alternative side... options to copyright, proprietorial software, and much more.... (Sunder Raman, Open Views on KRUULP)

2008-02-23 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Check these pages for some fascinating audio interviews:

  Joi Ito (CreativeCommons.org). Sunil Abraham (IOSN, Mahiti.org in
  Bangalore, etc). Sunlight Foundation. Vera Franz (OSI). Mike
  Linksvayer (Creative Commons). Peter Suber (Open Access). Heather Ford
  (iCommons.org). John Sullivan (Free Software Foundation). Matthew Todd
  (The Synaptic Leap). Matthew Cockerill (BioMedCentral). Ethan
  Zuckerman (co-founder, GlobalVoicesOnline.org). Bill Witherspoon
  (TheSkyFactory). Ronaldo Lemos (CreativeCommons, Brazil). Dean Jansen
  (Participatory Culture Foundation). Doc Searls (Senior Editor, Linux
  Journal). David Lipman (National Institute of Health). Heather
  Gallagher (Burning Man). Lawrence Liang (AltLawForum.org). Wendy
  Seltzer (OPenLaw.org). Richard Baraniuk (Cnx.org). Laurent Kratz (CEO,
  Jamendo). Cory Doctorow (sci-fi author, copyright reform activist).
  Michel Bauwens (Foundation for Peer to Peer Alternatives). Melissa
  Hagemann (Open Society Institute). Ethan Zuckerman (GeekCorps).
  Jennifer Papin Ramcharan (UWI). John Wilbanks (Science Commons).
  Kembrew McLeod (author, filmmaker, professor). Wayan Vota (IESC-Geek
  Corps). Richard Poynder (freelance journalist). Mark Shuttleworth
  (Ubuntu, etc). Mark Patterson (Public Library of Science). Richard
  Jefferson (creator of BiOS license). Abhas Abhinav, founder
  Deeproot.in. Siva Vidhyanathan, author and historian. Janet Hope,
  author of Open Source in Biotechnology. Mike Linksvayer, CTO,
  CreativeCommons.org. Prayas Abhinav, CreativeCommonsIndia. Moore
  Wells.

  http://kruufm.com/station/archives/4
  http://kruufm.com/station/archives/4?page=1
  http://kruufm.com/station/archives/4?page=2
  http://kruufm.com/station/archives/4?page=3
  Sunder Raman. On KRUULP 101 FM, the voice of Fairfield, Iowa...

  Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490

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[ilugd] OFFTOPIC: From India, a magazine that looks at Open Publishing ...

2008-02-19 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
i4donline.net's February 2008 magazine focuses on open publishing.
Some of the articles it has include:

* Gutenberg Project
* Moodle CMS
* Widgit Software
* Open Webcasting
* Open Architecture Network
* Digital Library in India, the million book project
* Cape Town Open Education Declaration
* Information on the Farm Front
* Interview: Gregory Newby and Michael Hart
* Workshop on Science Commons
* ACIA: Intl Workshop on Asia and the Commons in the Info Age
* Training programme on biomedical info retrival
* BytesForAll summaries
* Books: Community radio guide, empowering tools
* Etc

You can download it at http://i4donline.net/feb08/feb08.pdf
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[ilugd] Help with laptop in Delhi

2008-02-08 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Dear All, My journo friend Arnab has just gone in for an Acer with
GNU/Linux and is having some challenges in getting it started. I'd be
very grateful if you could offer any help! Thanks so much... FN
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[ilugd] Taking a look... at some recent developments in Urdu computing (from BytesForAll, South Asia)

2007-12-17 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
BYTESFORALL: A LOOK AT SOME URDU DEVELOPMENTS...

Some useful and interesting links from the UrduComputing mailing list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urdu_computing

URDU NVU RELEASE

Huda Sarfraz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The current release of
the Nvu localization includes the Urdu Nvu installer for
Windows, which has it's GUI in Urdu. Work to be done for
future releases includes changing the layout direction of
Urdu Nvu to right-to-left. For download and installation
details, please go to Urdu Nvu Windows Installer.
 http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/OSS/NVu.html

Nvu (pronounced N-view) is a WYSIWYG HTML editor, based on
the Composer component of Mozilla Application Suite and Gecko
1.7. It is a common WYSIWYG editor for Linux and is intended
to be an open source equivalent to proprietary software like
Microsoft FrontPage and Macromedia Dreamweaver (although to
date it is missing many features they possess). As a WYSIWYG
editor, it is designed to be easy for novice users and does
not require any knowledge of HTML or CSS to use. The project
was started by and sponsored by Linspire. Linspire hired
Daniel Glazman, former Netscape Communications Corporation
employee and CEO/Founder of Disruptive Innovations, to be
lead developer. Nvu is available for Linux, Mac OS X and
Microsoft Windows, and it can be built successfully on any
platform with the Netscape Portable Runtime. (Source: Wikipedia)

* * *

ONLINE DICTIONARY:

Aijaz Akhtar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A very good
Dictionary is now available on line. Its huge database,
Unicode nature, and Nafees Web Naskh font give it an edge
over other on line dictionary sites. Visit here:
http://www.urduenglishdictionary.org/

[Works fine in FireFox 2.0.0.9, on Windows XP-SP2 with Urdu
fonts and phonetic keyboard installed for MS Office.  When
doing Urdu to English search, you will need to switch your
keyboard to Urdu from the language bar.]

* * *

GNU/LINUX WINDOW MANAGER xfce IN URDU:


Aijaz Akhtar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Very good news. A
low end yet powerful window maker for Linux is now translated
into Urdu by Makki. XFCE may not be as beautiful an interface
as KDE or Gnome for Linux, yet it is powerful and consumes
less processor power and is light on RAM requirements, making
it suitable even on a pentium-1 or 2 machine with 400-500 MHZ
processor (Correct me if I am wrong). So now one can download
this, and configure your Linux (with XFCE preloaded, since it
is not bundled with in some Linux disros) to use Urdu
interface of Linux. Download presently from here:
 
http://www.4shared.com/file/28497917/a3c84cdc/xfce_441_Urdu_Translation_by_Makki.html
Soon to be uploaded in the download section of
http://urduweb.org. Mohammed Ali Makki had already translated
and made available Urdu Slax earlier that is available here:
http://www.urduweb.org/mehfil/local_links.php?catid=19

* * *

HINDI TO URDU TRANSLITERATOR:

Abdur Radhid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A beta version of Hindi to
Urdu Transliterator is available on line. Please give your
feedback. Visit here: http://hindi2urdu.tripod.com

COMPILED IN PUBLIC INTEREST BY:
* * *

TYPING IN URDU, UBUNTU ETC:

Ali Hussnain Shah: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a starting point
you can use crulp's Urdu Layout for Linux at
http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/keyboards/linuxphonetickb.html

There should be one text file containing the key mappings.
You can us it to learn and change it as you like and use that
on linux.

After you have developed a standard keyboard and if this
should be included in all Linux distributions, submitting it
to xorg (opensource implementation X Window System, on which
KDE,Gnome are based) would be better.. their mailing list is
at http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

After submission to xorg it will be included in all linux
distributtions (debian, suse, ubuntu ...) as soon the
distribution uses a new version of the X system. I think
Sergey Udaltsov is responsible for handling of the X input
system there in the list.

* * *

PAKTYPE NASKH BASIC FONT:

Lateef Sagar Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have created
PakType Naskh Basic 1.0 font, which is available at:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/paktype
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/paktype/files/NaskhBasic/1.0/

This font supports following languages: Amazigh, Arabic,
Balochi, Balti, Berber, Brahui, Burushaski, Farsi, Fulani,
Gojri, Hausa, Hindko, Kalami, Kanuri, Kashmiri, Khowar,
Kurdish, Ladakhi, Maba, Malay, Mandinka, Ormuri, Pashto,
Pathwari, Punjabi, Saraiki, Shina, Sindhi, Somali, Swahili,
Torwali, Turkish, Urdu and Uyghur and others.

This font is free for distribution and modification under
GPL.  Glyphs taken from ArabEyes.org font KacstQurn, having
following copyright notice; KACST holds the copyright of the
included Arabic font which is donated under GPL by KACST. URW
Design and Development holds the copyright of the included
Latin font which is donated under GPL by URW.

* * *

LIGATURE-BASD NASTALEEQ WRITING SYSTEM:

Sarmad Hussain [EMAIL 

[ilugd] LAP or Linux Access Project, Delhi ILUG

2007-10-13 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Could someone kindly point me to some follow up on this initiative?
Just writing on the topic. Thanks! FN

The Delhi chapter of the Indian Linux Users Groups, ILUG-D, has
started a project named LAP. LAP or Linux Access Project is a project
started at Linux Delhi to provide an infrastructure to schools to
shift over their computer labs on to open source software, explains
Supreet Sethi, a member of LAP.  [Source: LFY]
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[ilugd] Presentations at Freed.in

2007-10-11 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Could someone kindly point me to where I could get access to the
following presentations from Freed.in?

Ajith Kumar's Free Software in Science Experiments using Phoenix and
Ajay Kumar's Free/Open Tools for Free/Open Educational Content.

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[ilugd] FLOSS in schools: a query (and seeking your help)

2007-10-04 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Dear all:

I'm working on a paper on Free/Libre and Open Source Software in
Schools   and would be grateful if you could point me to useful links
about such ventures, where it has been used successfully or otherwise.

A draft paper (work-in-progress) of what I've put together so far can be read at
http://www.divshare.com/download/2205748-36f

Your suggestions, comments and critique is welcome.

Thanks in advance for any help you could offer. FN
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[ilugd] Delhi FOSS event gets growing attention

2007-10-02 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/Delhi_FOSS_event_gets_growing_attention/articleshow/2421842.cms
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[ilugd] IT practical tests on ‘open’ pl atform

2007-09-14 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Could anyone kindly pass on links of Free Software/Open Source usage in
Indian schools? Am writing on this currently. Tks, FN
IT practical tests on 'open' platform

Anand Parthasarathy

[EMAIL PROTECTED] project of Kerala has developed an operating system based on 
the
Linux

Akshaya had raised popular expectations

Kerala, first State to use Edusat satellite channel

— Photo: Special Arrangement

IT WORKS: Students of the Government Girls High School, Ernakulam,
doing self-paced computer 'practicals.'

BANGALORE: In the largest such simultaneous deployment of
'free-and-open' software in India, over 15 lakh Kerala schoolchildren
on Friday start taking their quarterly practical tests in Information
Technology on personal computers using a special Linux version.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] project of the State Education Department has developed
an operating system based on the Linux version Ubuntu. Called
[EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU Linux Version 3.0, it was distributed to 2,832 high
schools — over a thousand of them government schools, the rest aided
and unaided ones.

Between September 7 and 22, children of Classes 8, 9 and 10 will use
some 30,000 PCs to do their quarterly practical examinations in IT.

Test skills

In Class VIII, for example, the examination will test skills in the
use of the mouse; the 'Tux' paint software for drawing; word
processing and spreadsheets. A trained cadre of over 70,000 teachers
will help them.

The project has created a whole ecosystem of computer-aided tools for
self-paced learning, online testing, instant evaluation, marks
generation and so on. All this is done using royalty-free Open Source
software.

For example, the Open Source picture editing tool Gimp, rather than a
pricey proprietary option like Photoshop, is in use.

The State's path-breaking e-learning initiative Akshaya had raised
popular expectations, but the cost of proprietary software licences in
bulk was unaffordable. This led to the State emerging as a pioneer in
the use of Open Source resources in a host of education and
e-governance projects.

In July 2005, Kerala was the first State to use the Edusat satellite
channel to connect schools in all its 14 districts under the Virtual
Class Technology on Edusat for Rural Schools, or VICTERS, programme.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] executive director K. Anvar Sadath, a veteran of the Akshaya
programme, said on Thursday that the Central Government had
underwritten almost the entire cost of the school computerisation
programme to the tune of Rs. 6.2 crores, while the State had spent Rs.
75 lakh this fiscal year.

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[ilugd] Memo to Microsoft: Stop wasting our time! (Venky Hariharan's blog...)

2007-08-30 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
http://osindia.blogspot.com/2007/08/memo-to-microsoft-stop-wasting-our-time.html
Feedback to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, August 30, 2007
Memo to Microsoft: Stop wasting our time!

Finally word is out and the Bureau of Indian Standards has confirmed
that it will be submitting a No with comments vote to International
Standards Organization on Microsoft's OOXML proposal. This brings to a
temporary close five to six months of hectic
legwork to prevent a sub-standard proposal from getting the coveted
tag of an ISO standard.

I doubt if Microsoft realises it, but its actions are only making it
the Union Carbide of the global IT industry. Microsoft is the world's
largest software company but if you flip through their 6000+ pages of
OOXML documentation, you'll be justified in wondering how they grew so
big if the rest of their work is as shoddy as OOXML.

The extremely flawed proposal certainly does not befit its stature in
the IT industry. But, does Microsoft learn from all the feedback given
to it or does it learn anything from it. No. Humility and Microsoft
are like oil and water -- never shall they mix.

According to reports coming in from countries that are involved in the
ISO vote on OOXML, Microsoft is busy stuffing the ballot boxes. Read
Andy Updegrove's blog post The OOXML Vote: How Bad Can it Get? (Keep
Counting). Originally, only 30 ISO members were supposed to vote on
OOXML. However, as the September 2nd date for the final voting comes
close, another ten more countries have joined the committee.

Updegrove says:

As someone who has spent a great part of my life working to support
open standards over the past 20 years, I have to say that this is the
most egregious, and far-reaching, example of playing the system to the
advantage of a single company that I have ever seen. Breathtaking, in
fact. That's assuming, of course, that I am right in supposing that
all of these newbie countries vote yes.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see a few more days to learn
whether that assumption is true. Want to place your bets?

Sitting here in India, it is difficult to influence countries like
Malta, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Pakistan, Trinidad and
Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela in the two days left before the
final votes are submitted, but we shall try. I checked with the IT
ministry in Pakistan and brought to their attention that Pakistan is
now a P member of ISO which entitles it to vote on OOXML. This was
news to them as they were not consulted on the OOXML issue. I hope
that Pakistan's vote will be cast only after thoroughly reviewing the
arguements for and against OOXML.

Coming back to India, I am extremely proud of the fact that my country
has voted against this proposal. To accept such a poor document would
have been to denigrate the very meaning of standards. The academia,
the government bodies, industry organizations and non-profits like the
Free Software Foundation spent countless hours debating and discussing
this issue. Some of the best brains in India burnt the midnight oli to
review this 6000 page proposal and the final consensus was that none
of Microsoft's answers to the 201 technical issues raised was found
satisfactory. I hope the Microsoft bosses in Redmond take note of this
and make a genuine attempt to rectify the issues instead of trying to
stuff the ballot boxes.

For wasting the collective intellect of India's best IT brains,
Microsoft and ECMA must be blacklisted. Just as a person with a bad
credit history has to redeem himself or herself before applying for
subsequent credit, any standards proposal submitted by these two
organizations should be thoughly vetted before it is even accepted for
review or voting in India. India has more pressing problems to tackle
than OOXML. Therefore, Microsoft, please do us a big favor and stop
wasting our time. Next time, do your homework before you submit
something to India.

PS: This is an old joke in the IT industry and shows how little
Microsoft has changed in decades.
Q. How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
A. None. Microsoft declares Darkness(TM) an industry standard.

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[ilugd] War of formats: India shows thumbs-down to Microsoft

2007-08-24 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रदरिक नोरनया]
Posted by Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] at GII-India

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/
India_throws_Microsoft_open_format_out_of_the_window/articleshow/2305780.cms
(url has wrapped)

 NEW DELHI: India on Thursday gave Microsoft a thumbs-down in the war
of standards for office documents. In a tense meeting at Delhi's Manak
Bhawan, the 21-member technical committee decided that India will vote
a 'no' against Microsoft's Open Office Extensible Mark Up Language
(OOXML) standard at the International Standards Organisation (ISO) in
Geneva on September 2.

We unanimously agree on the disapproval of OOXML with comments. The
same will be submitted to ISO, National Informatics Centre head and
BIS technical committee chairperson Nita Verma said after a marathon
meeting that lasted over six hours. There was no need for a voting as
only Infosys Technologies and CSI supported Microsoft.

The Open Document Format (ODF) alliance, enjoying widespread support
from academia and corporates like Oracle, IBM, Red Hat, Sun
Microsystems, Google, were in a jubilant mood having succeeded in
stalling OOXML from being accepted as a standard in India.

Microsoft said it respect's the government's decision. There were
only three options `Yes', `No' and `Abstain' to be taken and we
respect the government's decision, Microsoft's legal affairs head
Rakesh Bakshi said. He, however, added that India's 'No' vote will
become a 'Yes' if Microsoft is able to resolve all technical issues
with OOXML before the ballot resolution committee of ISO.

Prof DB Phatak of IIT Mumbai, who was instrumental in conducting the
meetings, looked relieved after being flooded with calls from both
camps over the week.

Speaking to ET outside the BIS premises, the Microsoft camp complained
that when ODF was being standardised by ISO, they did not oppose it
and now the ODF camp refused to return the favour. ODF supporters said
they would have no problems with OOXML if all the 200 technical issues
were taken care of.

Amongst hectic lobbying from both camps, the US government on Thursday
said that it will abstain from voting. China has already voted a 'No'
against Microsoft, while Malaysia, Denmark and Switzerland are
supporting the software major.

A global alliance of Sun-IBM, Oracle, Google, Red Hat have ganged up
against Microsoft which is being supported by Apple, Quark, Accenture
and Novell. On Indian soil, Infosys, HCL, Skelta, Sonata Software and
Sify have come out in support of Microsoft.

September 2 is the last date to submit the vote with comments to ISO.
About 123 counties are participating in the vote. Votes from most are
still to come. Canada, Czech Republic, Iran, Japan, Libya, Cuba, New
Zealand, UK are likely to back the IBM-Sun's ODF Alliance. On the
other hand, Belgium, Finland, Italy, Spain, Brazil, Singapore, Korea,
France and Australia are likely to abstain from voting.
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