hello, if someone willing to have Fedora 7 ( MOONSHINE ) please visit to Jamia... we have also downloaded it
devesh, JMILUG ( www.jmilug.org ) On 6/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Send ilugd mailing list submissions to > ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ilugd digest..." > > > Please trim replies before posting. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fedora 7 release (Raseel Bhagat) > 2. Re: Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... ) (Yashpal Nagar) > 3. Re: Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... ) (G Karunakar) > 4. Re: Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... ) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: 2 Jun 2007 20:06:27 -0000 > From: "Raseel Bhagat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fedora 7 release > To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Hi, > A late reply, but still.... > > On Tue, 29 May 2007 Parveen Verma wrote : > >Hi > > > > Is any one palnning to download Fedora 7 > > > > The OpenSourceDeal (www.opensourcedeal.com) guys have it. > The DVD AND the Live CDs. > > Thanks, > Raseel. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:46:36 +0100 > From: Yashpal Nagar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... ) > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Karanbir Singh wrote: > > Yashpal Nagar wrote: > > > >> I don't know how is the redhat > >> support in India but in UK it is not so. > >> > > > > I dont agree :) We work with Redhat people onsite ( in the UK ) and even > on > > remote setups - and i can assure you, they are some of the best techies > to have > > on your side when things break :) > > > > > > > I don't know what how does it relevent of comparing a RHEL techies > onsite and a RHEL support via call. As far as i know you are entitled to > get telephonic support from Redhat once you have bought a license, > getting a support onsite seems to be a special arrangement with Redhat. > I am sorry if i could't understand its meaning. > > with the RHEL trial version and the subscription version ( specially > during the > > trial period ). And I've never had more of an issue than just > transferring the > > rhn entitlements over to new machines or new versions when they come > out. > > > > > It is more than one month now, IIRC redhat provided evaluation copy of > RHEL which we used and provided our existining RHN account to get them > under a single logon. > > That is also quite an interesting statement - SuSe has , by far, had the > best > > support setup inhouse for years and years, I remember talking to people > back in > > 2000 - 2001 and getting kernel patches out from them overnight to handle > > specific issues. While this has *significantly* gone down in recent > years, its > > not really that bad, to be completely written off. And a lot of that > talent has > > moved into VAR's and associated business post Novel, should you want, I > am happy > > to put you in touch with some of them. > > > > <shameless plug> perhaps you need someone to come in and manage the > setup for > > you ? if you let me know where you are based and what setup you have, > I'd be > > happy to trot along with a quote </plug> > > > > > I believe it is a perception which get developed when you work with > someone, I must admit i have been too much aggresive putting comments on > SUSE support, I should have taken some more time to understand how > they(novell network) work/responds. It was resolved painlessly. As far > as the setups are concerned, No, We are not looking someone to manage > them rather looking someone to give their setups ;) > > You will actually find that Gora's initial response was in your real > interest - > > mailing lists are not a real substitute for a support contract - even > when you > > might sometimes get a faster response here ( hey, IRC will beat mailing > lists > > hands down on speed of response ) - but when you have a supported > platform, your > > first call should always be to the people supporting it. Not only is it > their > > responsibility, they will ( or should ) have a process-to-resolution > > recommendation / execution plan. Depending on the situation, not > adhering to > > that p-2-r plan will invalidate your support even. > > > > btw, if you really are having so many issues with your support providers > and > > having to live off the handholding and spoonfeeding in the lists, why > bother > > paying redhat / suse / mandriva at all ? and go the CentOS route - You > can bring > > in local talent and feed the open source ecosystem a lot better. > > > > > > All is ok, what you are saying, there are only two concerns. > > 1. How does the people behave when they see someone's post in the > mailing list, for which the answer might be very obvious or the > respondent feels, why this silly question is being asked. They takes no > time to comment on the question being asked or arrogantly say something > to kill the discussion. Is't this negligence? I need not to supply you a > example here, you see the comments from Gora's email. > > 2. Second and more important one is there are all types of people in the > list, Gurus, Intermediate and Novice. Its good to have Gurus on the list > but what could happen to list if they start behaving arrogant? I am not > talking about this particular thread, i have experienced few others of > similar type and thought to raise it this time. e.g what happens if > someone ask what is a hosts file? I can bet there would be many in the > list who would start bashing on him/her. Is't this kind of behaviour > dangerous for community especially for community like GNU/Linux, whose > base is on Freedom! > > I don't know how do you feel about this, but i could't resist myself to > respond. I felt somewhere some thinking is wrong for the list. > > Regards > Yashpal > > > > > > -- > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML email X > & vCards / \ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 10:32:16 +0530 > From: "G Karunakar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... ) > To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 6/3/07, Yashpal Nagar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > All is ok, what you are saying, there are only two concerns. > > > > 1. How does the people behave when they see someone's post in the > > mailing list, for which the answer might be very obvious or the > > respondent feels, why this silly question is being asked. They takes no > > time to comment on the question being asked or arrogantly say something > > to kill the discussion. Is't this negligence? I need not to supply you a > > example here, you see the comments from Gora's email. > > > > 2. Second and more important one is there are all types of people in the > > list, Gurus, Intermediate and Novice. Its good to have Gurus on the list > > but what could happen to list if they start behaving arrogant? I am not > > talking about this particular thread, i have experienced few others of > > similar type and thought to raise it this time. e.g what happens if > > someone ask what is a hosts file? I can bet there would be many in the > > list who would start bashing on him/her. Is't this kind of behaviour > > dangerous for community especially for community like GNU/Linux, whose > > base is on Freedom! > > blame it on the search engines!.. ever since they started giving near > required answer/solution.. asking on the list has never been the > same.. so its become kind of expected that one has searched for the > solution a bit & then asked unable to find any suitable info through > search... so asking 'what is a hosts file' on google & getting > answers in seconds is kind of simpler than asking on a list and > waiting few mins/hrs for a response.. > offcourse the 'RTFM' has already been kind of forgotten since the > engines came!.. > > Karunakar > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:51:47 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ilugd] Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... ) > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Quoting G Karunakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > 2. Second and more important one is there are all types of people in > the > > > list, Gurus, Intermediate and Novice. Its good to have Gurus on the > list > > > but what could happen to list if they start behaving arrogant? I am > not > > > talking about this particular thread, i have experienced few others of > > > similar type and thought to raise it this time. e.g what happens if > > > someone ask what is a hosts file? I can bet there would be many in the > > > list who would start bashing on him/her. Is't this kind of behaviour > > > dangerous for community especially for community like GNU/Linux, whose > > > base is on Freedom! > > > > blame it on the search engines!.. ever since they started giving near > > required answer/solution.. asking on the list has never been the > > same.. so its become kind of expected that one has searched for the > > solution a bit & then asked unable to find any suitable info through > > search... so asking 'what is a hosts file' on google & getting > > answers in seconds is kind of simpler than asking on a list and > > waiting few mins/hrs for a response.. > > offcourse the 'RTFM' has already been kind of forgotten since the > > engines came!.. > > or you could try to join more friendly lists like mumbai or chennai - much > more > off topic stuff there, but no one will bite your head off > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ilugd mailing list > ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > > > End of ilugd Digest, Vol 51, Issue 3 > ************************************ > _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
