Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharninder wrote: Yes, I've used xen and vmware and both have served me equally well. Use vmware if you want the commercial support in a heavily loaded data center. Use xen if you can handle the support yourself or can depend on the community. imho, thats not true at all. You can get plenty of Vendor and implementation neutral support for Xen these days - much more so than vmware. Also, you get very well integrated Xen tools with most distro's which you dont get with vmware at all. I stand corrected. You can get commercial support for xen and its probably as good for commercial use as vmware. But, then I had a disclaimer attached to my reply ;) -- Sharninder ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software
You can get commercial support for Xen as well. We use Vmware for virtualization on the Windows side (on RHEL Hosts) and have consolidated a little over 400 servers. On the Solaris side we make use of Ldom's and zones, and for linux I've done a proof of concept with openvz (although we would probably use virtuozzo for the commercial support since I work for a very large company) I'm a big fan of openvz and zones since you don't have the extra overhead of multiple kernels, and in many cases you don't need to do so. (Consolidating dev and uat onto one box for example). Virtualization is a great way to get more out of your hardware and is in wide production use. Justin n Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:42 am, Sharninder wrote: Has anyone tried running some kind of virtualization software in production on a Linux server and is there any feedback, comments, suggestions, benchmarks? Yes, I've used xen and vmware and both have served me equally well. Use vmware if you want the commercial support in a heavily loaded data center. Use xen if you can handle the support yourself or can depend on the community. In performance both are compareable and currently, IMO, vmware has a lead in providing better management features with the VI3 line. If you're looking to install a virtualisation software on top of a linux distro, then your choice is between vmware workstation or a xen patched kernel. There are other virtualisation solutions also including kvm, lguest all of which should serve you well for the usual test cases. In the end your choice would depend on your use case and requirements. Regards, Sharninder Disclaimer: I work for vmware. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software
Naresh Narang wrote: Hi there, Has anyone tried running some kind of virtualization software in production on a Linux server and is there any feedback, comments, suggestions, benchmarks? regards, --Naresh Narang Check out KVM. http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/KVM http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki I have used both of these with very good result on a lagre no. of guest OS's. Performance is very good (near native). Vikram Ranade Visit us at Light and Building Exhibition, Frankfurt, Apr 06~11, 2008 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software
Sharninder wrote: Yes, I've used xen and vmware and both have served me equally well. Use vmware if you want the commercial support in a heavily loaded data center. Use xen if you can handle the support yourself or can depend on the community. imho, thats not true at all. You can get plenty of Vendor and implementation neutral support for Xen these days - much more so than vmware. Also, you get very well integrated Xen tools with most distro's which you dont get with vmware at all. There are some vmware products worth using - but on the small to medium end of the markets, vmware is today a waste of time. If you have anything short of $60,000 to spend on your Virt budget, I'd highly recommend you give vmware a miss. In performance both are compareable and currently, Not true again, in most real world applications Xen beats vmware ( for me ) both in performance and cost benefits. And in some cases, like mass hosting openvz might be a better setup than both Xen and VMware. IMO, vmware has a lead in providing better management features with the VI3 line. If you're looking to install a virtualisation software on top of a linux distro, then your choice is between vmware workstation or a xen patched kernel. ummm... perhaps you didnt get the memo, but Linux now includes several layers of Virt foo, besides - most Distro and platform vendors ship and support Xen (atleast). There are other virtualisation solutions also including kvm, lguest all of which should serve you well for the usual test cases. In the end your choice would depend on your use case and requirements. btw, my opinion is based on Linux hosting Linux VM's - the moment you go hybrid on OS platforms, things change quite dramatically. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Virtualization software
Hi there, Has anyone tried running some kind of virtualization software in production on a Linux server and is there any feedback, comments, suggestions, benchmarks? regards, --Naresh Narang Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software
Has anyone tried running some kind of virtualization software in production on a Linux server and is there any feedback, comments, suggestions, benchmarks? Yes, I've used xen and vmware and both have served me equally well. Use vmware if you want the commercial support in a heavily loaded data center. Use xen if you can handle the support yourself or can depend on the community. In performance both are compareable and currently, IMO, vmware has a lead in providing better management features with the VI3 line. If you're looking to install a virtualisation software on top of a linux distro, then your choice is between vmware workstation or a xen patched kernel. There are other virtualisation solutions also including kvm, lguest all of which should serve you well for the usual test cases. In the end your choice would depend on your use case and requirements. Regards, Sharninder Disclaimer: I work for vmware. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software
On 22-Mar-08, at 9:29 AM, Naresh Narang wrote: Has anyone tried running some kind of virtualization software in production on a Linux server and is there any feedback, comments, suggestions, benchmarks? you mean like xen? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
