Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Linux Lingam
On Dec 30, 2007 12:39 AM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hope your /var/log/dpkg.log from old box is still there. Following
> 'awk' script will output what all packages with their versions were
> installed before a given date when your system broke. Set value of
> BROKEDATE with the appropriate date:
>
> - 8<8<
> # update.awk
> BEGIN {
> # date when stuff broke
> BROKEDATE="2007-11-20"
[snip]
> - >8>8
>

this is brilliant. thanks ashish.

> Following is the usage:
>
> $ awk -f update.awk /var/log/dpkg.log
> kgpg 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
> libgail18 1.20.0-0ubuntu1
> libxt6 1:1.0.5-3
> kscd 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
> ...
>
> Now once you've versions, you can 'wget' the respective packages from
> repositories and install them using 'dpkg -i', hmm... ?

yyup!

> Post-installation, you can prevent any updates to desired packages
> using apt pinning.
>
> HTH

this is just what i needed. thanks so much!
just my bad that i received this in the morning,. yesterday evening i
reformatted the feisty partition and installed a fresh feisty. then
boldly decided to apply updates and patches to see what happens.
miraculously, everything works with no swap-dance or
gestating-whale-sluggishness.

am just installing what i feel might have been the cause of all this
heart-burn: audio and video codecs. will know by afternoon if the
dance starts again.

if all works okay, will use your tip for this roll-your-own-rollback
and hopefully live to tell the tale.


thanks, and hope to see you at JNU in a while for the freed.in sangatthan.

regards
niyam


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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
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> "linuxlingam" == linuxlingam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
linuxlingam> Dear jasbir,

linuxlingam> thanks for your respone and taking your cue promptly 
subscribed to the
linuxlingam> ubuntu-in mailing list.

linuxlingam> i have not opted for dist-upgrade in feisty, just regular 
maintenance
linuxlingam> updates. The ones post oct2007 demand more ram, so until then 
the
linuxlingam> system is doing a swap dance.
linuxlingam> I therefore dont want updates beyond oct2007.
linuxlingam> How do i do that?

I hope your /var/log/dpkg.log from old box is still there. Following
'awk' script will output what all packages with their versions were
installed before a given date when your system broke. Set value of
BROKEDATE with the appropriate date:

- 8<8<
# update.awk
BEGIN {
# date when stuff broke
BROKEDATE="2007-11-20"
}
/status installed/ {
if($1 < BROKEDATE) 
{
# $1 - data, $5 - pkg name, $6 - pkg version
# print $1" "$5" "$6
PKGS[$5] = $6;
}
}
/not-installed/ {
delete PKGS[$5];
}
END {
for(i in PKGS)
{
print i" "PKGS[i];
}
}
- >8>8

Following is the usage:

$ awk -f update.awk /var/log/dpkg.log 
kgpg 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
libgail18 1.20.0-0ubuntu1
libxt6 1:1.0.5-3
kscd 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
...

Now once you've versions, you can 'wget' the respective packages from
repositories and install them using 'dpkg -i', hmm... ?

Post-installation, you can prevent any updates to desired packages
using apt pinning.

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread linuxlingam
Dear jasbir,

thanks for your respone and taking your cue promptly subscribed to the
ubuntu-in mailing list.

i have not opted for dist-upgrade in feisty, just regular maintenance
updates. The ones post oct2007 demand more ram, so until then the
system is doing a swap dance.
I therefore dont want updates beyond oct2007.
How do i do that?
Niyam

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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Jasbir Khehra
Hi Niyam,
I am also using Ubuntu Feisty on an old Cyrix-III box. If you are
worried about Ubuntu upgrading from Feisty to Gusty, well it wont
until unless you specifically  tell it to 'dist-upgrade' to the +1
version. So the updates you receive post Gusty launch are specific to
Feisty and are mostly security updates or backports,updates  (if you
have the these repositories enabled in the sources list). IIRC Ubuntu
will support Feisty security updates till April 08.
So in your case while updating your freshly installed  Feisty it will
update to the latest packages from the Feisty branch of the
repository.
Mostly its the kernel updates which may botch old h/w systems, in my
case mouse stop working so simply reverted back to the old kernel .
Niyam can you recall the specific package update which might have
caused your system to go into turbulent weather? ( /var/log/dpkg.log*
files might be of help).

To take a snapshot of the installed system you can try APTonCD [1] , I
havnt used it myself but all it will help is in saving you bandwidth.
Or you can just dump /var/cache/apt/archives/ from system to system

[1] http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net

Cheers,
Jasbir
P.S ubuntu-in Mailing list is also very active.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in

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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Linux Lingam
dear tirveni,

> > 
> >
> > once done, is there any way in which i can create some sort of a
> > snapshot system, so if the system rattles again due to an update or a
> > patch, i safely roll-back to a known, working snapshot?
[snip]

> Two hard disks with same specs,
>a- partitioned the new hard disk exactly the same as the old
> one.Andformatted the partitions in same
> type.Set the bootable flag
>b- Then because of the time consumed doing the dd , looked around and
> found partimage . It backs up the partition with the data and can restore
> the partition( bigger than the backed up partition).
>c- After using the partimage, to copy and restore.
> Had to use the dd , dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd to copy the MBR.
>
> more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287522

> Tirveni

thanks for the info. this sounds like an adventurous and fun-filled
roll-your-own-rollback, and worth doing. am sure soon someone may
chime in with a RAID-based solution as well.

my point: all this is hindsight.
at this moment, when i start fresh, with an april 2007 feisty fawn,
how do i roll it forward so it stops at all updates and patches for
all main, restricted, universe, and third-party apps, till Oct 2007,
and does not install any software update beyond that cut-off time?

you see, i can't even roll back. if i install a fresh feisty and apply
all patches and updates, it will apply them at one shot from those at
the current date. in one giant leap. if i could hypothetically roll
back, it would roll back one giant step back, to my fresh install.
sigh!

the updates and patches on ubuntu feisty beyond oct 2007, makes it
unusable on my ageing hardware.

thanks for your assistance, and am still hopeful there could be a
possible solution somewhere, somehow


niyam bhushan

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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-28 Thread tirveni yadav
On Dec 28, 2007 5:47 PM, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>
> once done, is there any way in which i can create some sort of a
> snapshot system, so if the system rattles again due to an update or a
> patch, i safely roll-back to a known, working snapshot?
>
Snapshot, hmmm, hope this is helpful
just recently was faced with this situation twice in last two months.

1) First time, needed to replace a hard disk, two hard disks with same
specs,
   a- partitioned the new hard disk exactly the same as the old
one.Andformatted the partitions in same type. Set the bootable flag .
   b- used the dd utility to copy the root partition from the first hard
disk to the new one, for example dd if=/dev/hdc1 of=/dev/hdd2 . It was very
time consuming, took more than 2 hours.


2) Second Time, Two hard disks with same specs,
   a- partitioned the new hard disk exactly the same as the old
one.Andformatted the partitions in same
type.Set the bootable flag
   b- Then because of the time consumed doing the dd , looked around and
found partimage . It backs up the partition with the data and can restore
the partition( bigger than the backed up partition).
   c- After using the partimage, to copy and restore.
Had to use the dd , dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd to copy the MBR.

more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287522

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Tirveni

Tirveni Yadav
Freed.in
Freedom in Technology & Software
February 2008 , Jawaharlal Nehru University
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[ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-28 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,


in april 2007, i installed a fresh ubuntu feisty on my five-year-old
desktop that is now growing long in the bluetooth.
i regularly updated and applied patches on it, so i had a 'more
usable' system that worked brilliantly, till the last week of oct
2007.

the subsequent updates and patches hurled my system into turbulent
weather, the fasten-seat-belts sign lit up, and soon the system just
became completely unusable.

noticed that gutsy's specs for hardware are more than what i have currently.

am therefore sitting at this moment with my cd of ubuntu feisty, ready
to do a fresh-install. alas! that mercilessly rolls me back  to an
april 2007 ecosystem.

is there any way for me to configure or tweak my system updates, apt
sources, etc., so the system and apps that i wish to install and
update roll-forward and stop at october 2007 and don't go beyond that?

once done, is there any way in which i can create some sort of a
snapshot system, so if the system rattles again due to an update or a
patch, i safely roll-back to a known, working snapshot?


your help and suggestions much appreciated.

regards
niyam

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