Re: [ilugd] Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}

2003-08-16 Thread Raj Mathur
> "Pankaj" == penguinhead   writes:

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Pankaj> On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 03:19:56PM +0800, Sanjeev Ghane
Pankaj> Gupta wrote:
Sanjeev> Why shouldn't he?  The Indian National Congress made the
Sanjeev> case for Independence in English.
Pankaj> Because to talk about a vegetarian lifestyle while eating
Pankaj> butter chicken suits only supreet. :)
Pankaj> /grinning-ducking-running/

Pankaj> Because to talk about freedom, opensource and copyleft and
Pankaj> showing up in the meet with a powerpoint presentation is
Pankaj> the most hollow thing. If you dont trust these tools to do
Pankaj> your job. if you dont know how to use these tools. if
Pankaj> these tools are not good enough for you how can you
Pankaj> convince other people to use them.

Oh, I don't know.  You could be a lawyer who fights cases for the free
software community pro bono, but still not use, want to use or know
how to use Linux or *BSD.  Does that make you less of a contributor to
the free software community?  IMO it's not a good idea to judge
people's ideals by what technology they use, in general.

Regards,

-- Raju
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Re: [ilugd] Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}

2003-08-16 Thread Spoonman
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On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 02:52:11PM -0400, Tarun Upadhyay wrote:
Tarun>Spoonman,
Tarun>P.S. meanwhile you keep using mutt and I will keep using outlook. What is
Tarun>open source movement if not about choice?

I admire your audacity. but, I agree on the point about keeping my mouth
shut. and NO the open source movement is not about that. though I am
in no way associated to the open source movement.

I use free software and associate myself only with the free software 
movement.

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RE: [ilugd] Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}

2003-08-16 Thread Tarun Upadhyay
Spoonman,
I admire your passion and spirit for linux. however, nothing will be
achieved by trolling the list and ridiculing me (and others) publicly . Let
us end it here and talk sometime offline (say in the next ILUGD meeting).
That might be more educational for both of us.

With Warm Regards
Tarun Upadhyay
P.S. meanwhile you keep using mutt and I will keep using outlook. What is
open source movement if not about choice?
 

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> On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 03:19:56PM +0800, Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote:
> Sanjeev>Why shouldn't he?  The Indian National Congress made the case 
> Sanjeev>for Independence in English.
> Because to talk about a vegetarian lifestyle while eating 
> butter chicken suits only supreet. :) /grinning-ducking-running/
> 
> Because to talk about freedom, opensource and copyleft and 
> showing up in the meet with a powerpoint presentation is the 
> most hollow thing. If you dont trust these tools to do your 
> job. if you dont know how to use these tools. if these tools 
> are not good enough for you how can you convince other people 
> to use them.
> 
> So, I belive if you really have to say I belive in free 
> software. at least start using free software.
> 
> PS: I am too young to read into the "national congress" 
> riddle please explain.
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Re: [ilugd] Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}

2003-08-16 Thread Spoonman
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On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 03:19:56PM +0800, Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote:
Sanjeev>Why shouldn't he?  The Indian National Congress made the case for
Sanjeev>Independence in English.
Because to talk about a vegetarian lifestyle while eating butter chicken
suits only supreet. :)
/grinning-ducking-running/

Because to talk about freedom, opensource and copyleft and showing up in
the meet with a powerpoint presentation is the most hollow thing. If you
dont trust these tools to do your job. if you dont know how to use these
tools. if these tools are not good enough for you how can you convince 
other people to use them.

So, I belive if you really have to say I belive in free software. at
least start using free software.

PS: I am too young to read into the "national congress" riddle please
explain.
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Re: [ilugd] Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}

2003-08-16 Thread Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta
On Saturday, August 16, 2003 2:42 AM [GMT+0800],
Spoonman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I DONT THINK HOW MR TARUN UPADHYAY CAN MAKE A STRONGER CASE FOR OPEN
> SOURCE ALTERNATIVES IF HE CONTINUES TO USE MICROSOFT OUTLOOK AS HIS
> EMAIL CLIENT.

Why shouldn't he?  The Indian National Congress made the case for
Independence in English.

We work within our means, and the circumstances we face, to push our goals.

--
Sanjeev


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Re: [ilugd] Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}

2003-08-15 Thread Spoonman
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 12:50:52PM +0530, Shuvam Misra wrote:
Shuvam>I know there has been some adverse reactions on this list to
Shuvam>discussions about Windows, and those opinions make sense to me.
Shuvam>However, I have decided to post this message about Microsoft,
Shuvam>because it may help some of us (e.g. Tarun Upadhyay) build
Shuvam>a stronger case for open source alternatives, which after all

Can I say something? and can I be frank? actually can I be downright
rude?

Well! I know I behave in an arrogant and unresponsive way pretty much all
the time so, I dont really think how my not behaving like that this time 
is going to help my reppo.

I DONT THINK HOW MR TARUN UPADHYAY CAN MAKE A STRONGER CASE FOR OPEN
SOURCE ALTERNATIVES IF HE CONTINUES TO USE MICROSOFT OUTLOOK AS HIS 
EMAIL CLIENT.

ps: I really dont like taking cheap shots specially at people and *hate*
people who do that.
ps: I *hate* all haters :)

Pankaj
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