Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
I dont think cups is project driven by single programmer. Apple hiring lead programmer presents no threat to the project as long as lead programmer is dedicated to the project. In this case the license has been modified to explicitly exclude Apple from the need to keep derivative products open source. Unless shown otherwise, it does look like a case of the lead programmer being bought. I wonder how does GPLv3 deal with such takeovers. If it is so simple to build in an exception clause, big corporations like Microsoft can always sweeten the deal enough to lure programmers into selling out. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
IANAL FWIW On Thursday 12 July 2007 11:28 pm, Linux Lingam wrote: can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? It's not possible for anyone to revoke the GPL license on the code that is already out there. In the worst case we fork the last GPL/LGPL release. The GPLv3 question is more valid though - I have not seen the license for CUPS but unless it explicitly states 2 or later of GPL then it can not be relicensed under GPLv3. -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 23:28 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. [...] could this have an impact on our GPL-ed ability to 'print-to-pdf' using CUPS? [...] Bah. Repeat four words after me, boys and girls: F O R K Though I must say that I am kind of surprised that Novell is saying that they will distribute GPLv3 software rather than starting a v2/v3 fork war. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
On 7/12/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1249882244;fp;16;fpid;1 the community thinks this is to safeguard apple from issues with gpl3, as apple's printing-engine relies on CUPS. maybe, maybe not. apple also bought the GPL-ed software similarly, that was the precursor to 'shake' its video-compositing app. can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? HP, that relies on CUPS to keep its printers compatible with GnuLinux, has yet to respond or issue a statement. could this have an impact on our GPL-ed ability to 'print-to-pdf' using CUPS? ? niyam From the source: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L475 It seems to be fine and nothing to fork etc. over. Hostile takeover etc. seems to be an over-reaction. Also: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ Later, Vish ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. ... the community thinks this is to safeguard apple from issues with gpl3, as apple's printing-engine relies on CUPS. maybe, maybe not. http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/license.html -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. apple also bought the GPL-ed software similarly, that was the precursor to 'shake' its video-compositing app. can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations? I dont think cups is project driven by single programmer. Apple hiring lead programmer presents no threat to the project as long as lead programmer is dedicated to the project. If lead programmer joining Apple is a 'takeover' then Google has taken over python long ago and M$ has taken over couple OSS projects. On the other hand if the project is run by a team of programmers then lead programmer can no way revoke the license of the software unless all the code contributors agree to revoke the license. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
