Re: Keychain loosing passwords

2020-08-09 Thread Bruce Johnson 



> On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:32 PM, 'Russell Courtenay' via iMac Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is what I fear: Apple suggests a ‘secure’ password there is no way 
> you’ll remember so you try it. Then it never gets saved in your password! 
> Sometimes I enter a password on a website and in never asks ‘do you want to 
> save that password?’
> 

Check the password tab in safari preferences..it might be there.

However I”ve used iCloud keychain for years without anything like this.

> Is this unusual? It has happened to me several times, I have a password file 
> in my file cabinet but seriously, with 500 plus online logins, it is not up 
> to date. Now with greater security on Google and the like, I guess they are 
> physically reviewing reset requests and it takes days...

90% of my online logins are the same stupid password, because 90% don’t really 
need that kind of security. Something that would let a bad guy get at my money 
or other things of importance have secure ones, but sites that make you log in  
to look at old forum posts? They get the stupid easy password.

I”ve run into some sites that don’t prompt you to save the password; it’s 
something in the way the sites are written. 


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Re: Mail vs. Gmail...?

2020-08-09 Thread Bruce Johnson 
I would drop the account, restart the Mac and re-add the account to see if that 
fixes it. I”ve had to do that occasionally with email accounts on people’s 
computers.

On Aug 7, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

OSX version is 10.15.6--is there more we need to know? IMAP is set as account 
access, and I can't find anything about synching spam (or other) folders but 
there was never an issue until a few weeks ago.

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 2:48:06 PM UTC-4, 
joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
Version of OS X? The way Mail has handled GMail accounts has changed over the 
versions.

Is Gmail set to be accessed as an IMAP account? << wrote:

Hi there: In the past month or so, I've begun having some problems with Mail 
and its interaction with my Gmail account:

  *   When I launch Mail, it brings in the messages from Gmail as usual but 
after I open them or delete them, they don't get marked as opened or deleted in 
the Gmail web interface. If I select the "unread" ones there and mark them as 
read, they switch back to unread the next time I go in. Mail will show them as 
read, but the web interface doesn't. This only applies to messages received on 
or after the 4th of August.
  *   The items in the Spam folder in the web interface don't get brought 
across to Mail at all (with very few exceptions). Not that I care so much about 
my spam collection, but I want to see what's there in case something got 
flagged that shouldn't have.
  *   Some messages, but not all, refuse to display their content when I open 
them in Mail--I just get the header and a blank screen, so I have no idea what 
they contain. Occasionally if I close and reopen them repeatedly the content 
eventually appears, but not very often. They display fine in the web interface, 
just not in Mail.

The web interface issues apply regardless of whether I use Chrome or Safari.

Any ideas will be gratefully received. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Keychain loosing passwords

2020-08-09 Thread Russell Courtenay 
I wonder if there are documented issues with Keychain on El Cap?

Russell Courtenay

Sent from my old iMac

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:26 PM, 'John Hobbs' via iMac Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> Russell
> I hear you and used to have the same problems but not now. I let the password 
> manager do its thing even for important stuff and it just seems to work then 
> again I ditched my 2009 iMac for a 2017 model on high Sierra 
> John
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2020, at 21:32, 'Russell Courtenay' via iMac Group 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This is what I fear: Apple suggests a ‘secure’ password there is no way 
>> you’ll remember so you try it. Then it never gets saved in your password! 
>> Sometimes I enter a password on a website and in never asks ‘do you want to 
>> save that password?’
>> 
>> Is this unusual? It has happened to me several times, I have a password file 
>> in my file cabinet but seriously, with 500 plus online logins, it is not up 
>> to date. Now with greater security on Google and the like, I guess they are 
>> physically reviewing reset requests and it takes days...
>> 
>> Thinking about using password manager software but isn’t that what iCloud is 
>> supposed to be doing?
>> 
>> Now I am in the recovery process with Google that will take a couple days. I 
>> am still logged in on my iPhone (password not saved there) but of course, 
>> google now blocks messages from downloading to my phone so only the previews 
>> are there. 
>> 
>> This is a family email account I started in April of 2019 and never used, I 
>> use it today and- locked out. 
>> 
>> I don’t use my iMac much but it still the family server and backup machine, 
>> maybe it is time to replace it...
>> 
>> 2008 iMac 
>> Mac OS X El Capitan
>> Gmail account 
>> 
>> Russell Courtenay
>> Solemnity and profundity are sublime in inequity. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Keychain loosing passwords

2020-08-09 Thread Michael J. Amato 
Why is the Keychain such a mess! Is there a way to clean it up?


Mike Amato

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'John Hobbs' via iMac Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> Russell
> I hear you and used to have the same problems but not now. I let the password 
> manager do its thing even for important stuff and it just seems to work then 
> again I ditched my 2009 iMac for a 2017 model on high Sierra 
> John
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2020, at 21:32, 'Russell Courtenay' via iMac Group 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This is what I fear: Apple suggests a ‘secure’ password there is no way 
>> you’ll remember so you try it. Then it never gets saved in your password! 
>> Sometimes I enter a password on a website and in never asks ‘do you want to 
>> save that password?’
>> 
>> Is this unusual? It has happened to me several times, I have a password file 
>> in my file cabinet but seriously, with 500 plus online logins, it is not up 
>> to date. Now with greater security on Google and the like, I guess they are 
>> physically reviewing reset requests and it takes days...
>> 
>> Thinking about using password manager software but isn’t that what iCloud is 
>> supposed to be doing?
>> 
>> Now I am in the recovery process with Google that will take a couple days. I 
>> am still logged in on my iPhone (password not saved there) but of course, 
>> google now blocks messages from downloading to my phone so only the previews 
>> are there. 
>> 
>> This is a family email account I started in April of 2019 and never used, I 
>> use it today and- locked out. 
>> 
>> I don’t use my iMac much but it still the family server and backup machine, 
>> maybe it is time to replace it...
>> 
>> 2008 iMac 
>> Mac OS X El Capitan
>> Gmail account 
>> 
>> Russell Courtenay
>> Solemnity and profundity are sublime in inequity. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Keychain loosing passwords

2020-08-09 Thread 'John Hobbs' via iMac Group 
Russell
I hear you and used to have the same problems but not now. I let the password 
manager do its thing even for important stuff and it just seems to work then 
again I ditched my 2009 iMac for a 2017 model on high Sierra 
John

> On 8 Aug 2020, at 21:32, 'Russell Courtenay' via iMac Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is what I fear: Apple suggests a ‘secure’ password there is no way 
> you’ll remember so you try it. Then it never gets saved in your password! 
> Sometimes I enter a password on a website and in never asks ‘do you want to 
> save that password?’
> 
> Is this unusual? It has happened to me several times, I have a password file 
> in my file cabinet but seriously, with 500 plus online logins, it is not up 
> to date. Now with greater security on Google and the like, I guess they are 
> physically reviewing reset requests and it takes days...
> 
> Thinking about using password manager software but isn’t that what iCloud is 
> supposed to be doing?
> 
> Now I am in the recovery process with Google that will take a couple days. I 
> am still logged in on my iPhone (password not saved there) but of course, 
> google now blocks messages from downloading to my phone so only the previews 
> are there. 
> 
> This is a family email account I started in April of 2019 and never used, I 
> use it today and- locked out. 
> 
> I don’t use my iMac much but it still the family server and backup machine, 
> maybe it is time to replace it...
> 
> 2008 iMac 
> Mac OS X El Capitan
> Gmail account 
> 
> Russell Courtenay
> Solemnity and profundity are sublime in inequity. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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