Re: External Hard Drive Prep
On May 27, 4:43 pm, Dan wrote: > Better to re-scan the drive than to put high-value data on a dying block... I take your point, thanks. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External Hard Drive Prep
At 9:40 AM -0400 5/25/2009, Al Poulin wrote: >Years ago, good folks recommended that we reformat new drives to hide >any bad blocks or sectors. Today, is it advisable to reinitialize and >erase with zeros? Absolutely! ALWAYS use Disk Utility to re-initialize new drives, and zero 'em before use. One-pass of zeros is good enough. The idea is to just make sure the blocks are still alive. >Or do the manufacturers take care of this before sale? Manufacturers always did/do this, as part of the low-level formatting. And that's good. But it does nothing for the bad blocks grown thereafter -- warehouse cooking, shipping, drop kicking, shipping, porch cooking, ... Better to re-scan the drive than to put high-value data on a dying block... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External Hard Drive Prep
On May 25, 3:33 pm, Art wrote: > On May 25, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > > A follow-up question: what partitions on a 1.5TB drive should be set > up for use with both Time Machine and SuperDuper? (My internal hard > drive is 1TB but with less than 200GB actually in use at this time.) Depending on what you expect for expansion in the 200GB holdings in the next two or three years, I would allow something like 300 or 400GB for cloning and the rest for Time Machine to play with. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External Hard Drive Prep
On May 25, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > On May 25, 10:34 am, "./aal" wrote: >> just put your partitions and fs of choice on it and use > Thanks, you confirm my own fading memory. A follow-up question: what partitions on a 1.5TB drive should be set up for use with both Time Machine and SuperDuper? (My internal hard drive is 1TB but with less than 200GB actually in use at this time.) Thanks! Art --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External Hard Drive Prep
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > > On May 25, 10:34 am, "./aal" wrote: > >> hdd today are initialized at the factory and have intelligence to keep >> track of bad spots >> >> just put your partitions and fs of choice on it and use > > Thanks, you confirm my own fading memory. > > Al Poulin well with that in mind hows this for a blast from the past g=c800:5 -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - Mark Twain - "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow." - http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/416.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External Hard Drive Prep
On May 25, 10:34 am, "./aal" wrote: > hdd today are initialized at the factory and have intelligence to keep > track of bad spots > > just put your partitions and fs of choice on it and use Thanks, you confirm my own fading memory. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External Hard Drive Prep
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > > Years ago, good folks recommended that we reformat new drives to hide > any bad blocks or sectors. Today, is it advisable to reinitialize and > erase with zeros? Or do the manufacturers take care of this before > sale? > > Thanks, > Al Poulin > > > > I think you refer to a "low-level" format. That is no longer done. hdd today are initialized at the factory and have intelligence to keep track of bad spots just put your partitions and fs of choice on it and use -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - Joss Whedon, Zack Whedon, Maurissa Tancharoen, and Jed Whedon - "You give my regards to St. Peter, or whoever has his job, but in Hell." - http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/40335.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
External Hard Drive Prep
Years ago, good folks recommended that we reformat new drives to hide any bad blocks or sectors. Today, is it advisable to reinitialize and erase with zeros? Or do the manufacturers take care of this before sale? Thanks, Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---