Re: G3 Imac and OS X
When I had my beloved original Apple Imac bondi-blue, I found 8.6 was better for me than the 9 - I had maxed it out on RAM, and found it played many games that it was not supposed too. Dennis On Sunday, November 22, 2009, at 08:34AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Anyone know how to install OS 8.6 (yeah, I know) on a G3 iMac slot load 350MHz? Robert Esposito wrote: You do not need XPostFacto. You need the correct Firmware upgrade and then a clean install. I have successfully done tis to iMac G3 400MHz and Panther plus iMac G4 600MHz and Tiger. I don't like Tiger on a G3 iMac. It works but slower than I would like. Panther seems faster for the G3 iMac but you give up many Tiger upgrades for the improved performance that Panther gives on the G3. On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Art wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Don't think so -- I've had Tiger on my iMac DV SE400 forever but never even heard of XPostFacto prior to this thread. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
You do not need XPostFacto. You need the correct Firmware upgrade and then a clean install. I have successfully done tis to iMac G3 400MHz and Panther plus iMac G4 600MHz and Tiger. I don't like Tiger on a G3 iMac. It works but slower than I would like. Panther seems faster for the G3 iMac but you give up many Tiger upgrades for the improved performance that Panther gives on the G3. On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Art wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Don't think so -- I've had Tiger on my iMac DV SE400 forever but never even heard of XPostFacto prior to this thread. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
And to add a note, The 10.3.x installer lists a Tray Loader as one of the supported systems along with the explanantion that you need to install the system on the first 8GB of the HDD. XPostFacto is not needed for a Tray Loader to install 10.3, but it is needed for 10.4 On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Robert Esposito bobespos...@mac.com wrote: You do not need XPostFacto. You need the correct Firmware upgrade and then a clean install. I have successfully done tis to iMac G3 400MHz and Panther plus iMac G4 600MHz and Tiger. I don't like Tiger on a G3 iMac. It works but slower than I would like. Panther seems faster for the G3 iMac but you give up many Tiger upgrades for the improved performance that Panther gives on the G3. On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Art wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Don't think so -- I've had Tiger on my iMac DV SE400 forever but never even heard of XPostFacto prior to this thread. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
Anyone know how to install OS 8.6 (yeah, I know) on a G3 iMac slot load 350MHz? Robert Esposito wrote: You do not need XPostFacto. You need the correct Firmware upgrade and then a clean install. I have successfully done tis to iMac G3 400MHz and Panther plus iMac G4 600MHz and Tiger. I don't like Tiger on a G3 iMac. It works but slower than I would like. Panther seems faster for the G3 iMac but you give up many Tiger upgrades for the improved performance that Panther gives on the G3. On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Art wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Don't think so -- I've had Tiger on my iMac DV SE400 forever but never even heard of XPostFacto prior to this thread. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
Correct me if I´m wrong, but I think there is an easy rule of thumb: all USB-enabled Macs can run up to 10.3.9 without Xpostfacto, and all Firewire-enabled Macs can run Tiger natively. Isn't that so? Felix On Nov 22, 8:56 am, Robert Esposito bobespos...@mac.com wrote: You do not need XPostFacto. You need the correct Firmware upgrade and then a clean install. I have successfully done tis to iMac G3 400MHz and Panther plus iMac G4 600MHz and Tiger. I don't like Tiger on a G3 iMac. It works but slower than I would like. Panther seems faster for the G3 iMac but you give up many Tiger upgrades for the improved performance that Panther gives on the G3. On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Art wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Don't think so -- I've had Tiger on my iMac DV SE400 forever but never even heard of XPostFacto prior to this thread. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
Here is the breakdown for using XPostFacto: Use it to install Panther and up on Macs without USB ports and Use it to install Tiger on a Mac without FireWire (one of the slot- loaders without firewire is an exception though) I pulled the drive from my 333NHz tray loader and put it in my PowerMAc to install Tiger and then put it back in the iMac On Nov 22, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: Anyone know how to install OS 8.6 (yeah, I know) on a G3 iMac slot load 350MHz? Robert Esposito wrote: You do not need XPostFacto. You need the correct Firmware upgrade and then a clean install. I have successfully done tis to iMac G3 400MHz and Panther plus iMac G4 600MHz and Tiger. I don't like Tiger on a G3 iMac. It works but slower than I would like. Panther seems faster for the G3 iMac but you give up many Tiger upgrades for the improved performance that Panther gives on the G3. On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Art wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Don't think so -- I've had Tiger on my iMac DV SE400 forever but never even heard of XPostFacto prior to this thread. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
G3 Imac and OS X
I know that there is something that I need to download before attempting to install OS 10.3 on a slot loading G3 Imac. But I don't have the link, can anyone help? Thanks Jasiu -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
Here's the link: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75130 -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Jasiu wrote: I know that there is something that I need to download before attempting to install OS 10.3 on a slot loading G3 Imac. But I don't have the link, can anyone help? Thanks Jasiu -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
At 12:29 PM -0800 11/21/2009, Jasiu wrote: I know that there is something that I need to download before attempting to install OS 10.3 on a slot loading G3 Imac. But I don't have the link, can anyone help? Thanks There's a firmware update, can't give you the list readily, but somewhere on apple's website. You will also need XPostFacto to trick the installer into letting you install OSX on that machine, I am pretty sure. You can download it from http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm -- tom coradeschi tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
On Nov 21, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: At 12:29 PM -0800 11/21/2009, Jasiu wrote: I know that there is something that I need to download before attempting to install OS 10.3 on a slot loading G3 Imac. But I don't have the link, can anyone help? Thanks There's a firmware update, can't give you the list readily, but somewhere on apple's website. You will also need XPostFacto to trick the installer into letting you install OSX on that machine, I am pretty sure. You can download it from http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm The 4.l.9f1 firmware update, as I said earlier, is available from Apple. All that is needed is to go online using OS 9.x, then use the Software Update control panel to see what updates are available. Of course, you should check first in Apple System ProfilerProduction informationBoot ROM version. The 4.l.9f1 firmware update may be installed already. It is not necessary to use XPostFacto to install OS X on ANY slot-loading G3 iMac. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
At 6:48 PM -0800 11/21/2009, Jim Scott wrote: On Nov 21, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: At 12:29 PM -0800 11/21/2009, Jasiu wrote: I know that there is something that I need to download before attempting to install OS 10.3 on a slot loading G3 Imac. But I don't have the link, can anyone help? Thanks There's a firmware update, can't give you the list readily, but somewhere on apple's website. You will also need XPostFacto to trick the installer into letting you install OSX on that machine, I am pretty sure. You can download it from http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm The 4.l.9f1 firmware update, as I said earlier, is available from Apple. All that is needed is to go online using OS 9.x, then use the Software Update control panel to see what updates are available. Of course, you should check first in Apple System ProfilerProduction informationBoot ROM version. The 4.l.9f1 firmware update may be installed already. It is not necessary to use XPostFacto to install OS X on ANY slot-loading G3 iMac. Cool! My G3 is a tray loader, so XPostFacto is required. Just finished installing Snow Leopard on my Intel iMac. So far, so good! -- tom coradeschi tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
That's true; I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Bill Jim Scott wrote: On Nov 21, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: At 12:29 PM -0800 11/21/2009, Jasiu wrote: I know that there is something that I need to download before attempting to install OS 10.3 on a slot loading G3 Imac. But I don't have the link, can anyone help? Thanks There's a firmware update, can't give you the list readily, but somewhere on apple's website. You will also need XPostFacto to trick the installer into letting you install OSX on that machine, I am pretty sure. You can download it from http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm The 4.l.9f1 firmware update, as I said earlier, is available from Apple. All that is needed is to go online using OS 9.x, then use the Software Update control panel to see what updates are available. Of course, you should check first in Apple System ProfilerProduction informationBoot ROM version. The 4.l.9f1 firmware update may be installed already. It is not necessary to use XPostFacto to install OS X on ANY slot-loading G3 iMac. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
