Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 1 topic

[Tom Coradeschi]

With regard to #1, that is a patently false statement.

ClamXAv, Avast and several others are clearly good antivirus apps and are not 
even remotely Trojan horses.

Each user should make a decision as to whether or not to run an antivirus app, 
but it should be a risk based decision based on the likelihood of an actual Mac 
virus showing up on your computer, and not based on FUD like that below.

> On 20 Nov 2016, at 5:50 AM, Colin Yarwood  wrote:
> 
> Bill, et al,
> 
> I hesitate to share my thoughts when such august advice is already there but 
> I'd like to offer a few suggestions I have found (so far - touch wood!) work 
> and which are used and commended by many current and long time Mac users with 
> various OS versions running.
> 
> 1. DO NOT BUY ANY SO CALLED VIRUS prevention app for the Mac! None of them 
> work and some are themselves Trojan horses of sorts. Also avoid free SPAM 
> catchers - they often send out SPAM and PHISHING Mails to all your address 
> book contacts without your knowing it and yet show your name as the source. 
> These are more frequently found on PCs but just take care.
> 
> 2. Be very careful of any Cleaner or so named apps. 
> 
> 3. Get Etrecheck from Etresoft.com - its free and does an excellent job of 
> checking your system and shows a report indicating any problems. Its author 
> is accessible if you have a problem. 
> 
> 4. Etrecheck includes a Malware filter but also reccommends - as I do too - 
> Malware Bytes (https://www.malwarebytes.com/antimalware/mac/) which is again 
> free and does an excellent job speedily checking for any problems that have 
> got through your gate.
> 
> 5. Onyx (http://www.titanium.free.fr) is a superb and very reliable tool 
> including all manner of cleaning and reorganising gear.  Again its free and 
> its authors personally deal with problems and advice requests. Versions for 
> every OS since 10.3 are available... I have it running on my Pismo and my 
> MBPs and my other halfs iMac.
> 
> I have never heard of anyone having problkems wit the above and indeed those 
> who use them speak for them as highly as I do myself. Having an author 
> actually accessible is a real assurance!
> 
> One question for our friend and sage at ASU - do you still have your TERAK?
> 
> Kind regards and good luck with your new President! Fingers crossed that, 
> like Brexit which is a pain for us, wisewr counsel will be heard and all will 
> be well!
> 
> Colin Yarwood
> Apple User since '77 and still running an Apple ][!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 November 2016 at 07:43,  wrote:
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> Bill Spencer : Nov 18 06:02AM -0800 
> 
> Hi there: My wife has lately been getting spam emails, allegedly from her 
> email provider, which include links to click to resolve "problems"--you 
> know the drill. She has not taken the bait, but when I contacted the 
> provider on her behalf to triple-check that her account is still in the 
> clear, I got quite a lengthy sales pitch for all sorts of Mac-related 
> anti-virus and security stuff that they want us to buy. I have never really 
> worried about that sort of thing in the past, but times do change and I 
> thought I would see what the received wisdom is nowadays about the need for 
> such programs...and if there *is *a need, what to install. She's on 10.10.5 
> and I'm on 10.11.something. 
>  
> (FYI, she does not want to switch email providers, even to save the $100 or 
> so a year, because of the understandable headache of notifying everyone, 
> changing her business cards, her website, etc., and needing/wanting to keep 
> her old messages in one place.)
>  
> As always, my thanks in advance!
>  
> *
>  
> Bill Spencer in Maryland
> Older iMac and newer Mini, OS-es as above.
> "Bruce Johnson" : Nov 18 04:13PM 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Bill Spencer 
> > wrote:
>  
> Hi there: My wife has lately been getting spam emails, allegedly from her 
> email provider, which include links to click to resolve "problems"--you know 
> the drill. She has not taken the bait, but when I contacted the provider on 
> her behalf to triple-check that her account is still in the clear, I got 
> quite a lengthy sales pitch for all sorts of Mac-related anti-virus and 
> security stuff that they want us to buy. I have never really worried about 
> that sort of thing in the past, but times do change and I thought I would see 
> what the received wisdom is nowadays about the need for such programs...and 
> if there is a need, what to install. She's on 10.10.5 and I'm on 
> 10.11.something.
>  
> So long as her system is set to update automatically, Apple routinely pushes 
> out new definitions for their built-in anti-malware stuff so there’s 

Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 1 topic

[Colin Yarwood]

Bill, et al,

I hesitate to share my thoughts when such august advice is already there
but I'd like to offer a few suggestions I have found (so far - touch wood!)
work and which are used and commended by many current and long time Mac
users with various OS versions running.

1. *DO NOT BUY ANY SO CALLED VIRUS prevention app* for the Mac! None of
them work and some are themselves Trojan horses of sorts. Also* avoid free
SPAM catchers* - they often send out SPAM and PHISHING Mails to all your
address book contacts without your knowing it and yet show your name as the
source. These are more frequently found on PCs but just take care.

2. *Be very careful of any Cleaner* or so named apps.

3. Get *Etrecheck* from Etresoft.com - its free and does an excellent job
of checking your system and shows a report indicating any problems. Its
author is accessible if you have a problem.

4. Etrecheck includes a Malware filter but also reccommends - as I do
too - *Malware
Bytes* (https://www.malwarebytes.com/antimalware/mac/) which is again free
and does an excellent job speedily checking for any problems that have got
through your gate.

5. *Onyx *(http://www.titanium.free.fr) is a superb and very reliable tool
including all manner of cleaning and reorganising gear.  Again its free and
its authors personally deal with problems and advice requests. Versions for
every OS since 10.3 are available... I have it running on my Pismo and my
MBPs and my other halfs iMac.

I have never heard of anyone having problkems wit the above and indeed
those who use them speak for them as highly as I do myself. Having an
author actually accessible is a real assurance!

One question for our friend and sage at ASU - do you still have your TERAK?

Kind regards and good luck with your new President! Fingers crossed that,
like Brexit which is a pain for us, wisewr counsel will be heard and all
will be well!

Colin Yarwood
Apple User since '77 and still running an Apple ][!




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> Bill Spencer : Nov 18 06:02AM -0800
>
> Hi there: My wife has lately been getting spam emails, allegedly from her
> email provider, which include links to click to resolve "problems"--you
> know the drill. She has not taken the bait, but when I contacted the
> provider on her behalf to triple-check that her account is still in the
> clear, I got quite a lengthy sales pitch for all sorts of Mac-related
> anti-virus and security stuff that they want us to buy. I have never
> really
> worried about that sort of thing in the past, but times do change and I
> thought I would see what the received wisdom is nowadays about the need
> for
> such programs...and if there *is *a need, what to install. She's on
> 10.10.5
> and I'm on 10.11.something.
>
> (FYI, she does not want to switch email providers, even to save the $100
> or
> so a year, because of the understandable headache of notifying everyone,
> changing her business cards, her website, etc., and needing/wanting to
> keep
> her old messages in one place.)
>
> As always, my thanks in advance!
>
> *
>
> Bill Spencer in Maryland
> Older iMac and newer Mini, OS-es as above.
> "Bruce Johnson" : Nov 18 04:13PM
>
> On Nov 18, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Bill Spencer  c...@jhu.edu>> wrote:
>
> Hi there: My wife has lately been getting spam emails, allegedly from her
> email provider, which include links to click to resolve "problems"--you
> know the drill. She has not taken the bait, but when I contacted the
> provider on her behalf to triple-check that her account is still in the
> clear, I got quite a lengthy sales pitch for all sorts of Mac-related
> anti-virus and security stuff that they want us to buy. I have never really
> worried about that sort of thing in the past, but times do change and I
> thought I would see what the received wisdom is nowadays about the need for
> such programs...and if there is a need, what to install. She's on 10.10.5
> and I'm on 10.11.something.
>
> So long as her system is set to update automatically, Apple routinely
> pushes out new definitions for their built-in anti-malware stuff so there’s
> that protection first off.
>
> The overwhelmingly vast majority of malware out there still targets
> Windows (and increasingly Android) so a security