Re: USB Digital Video Converter

2017-04-23 Thread Russell Courtenay
Thanks, I'll look them up.

Russell Courtenay

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2017, at 9:10 AM, 'sasse' via iMac Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> Russell, checked withNational Camera they may have someone in your area that 
> can helped with the fix of your camera and also the TIMING of your tape.
> Douglas in Minnesota
> 
> 
> Sent on cell
> 
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 9:36, Russell Idaho - USA
>  wrote:
> So I FINALLY got the digital video converter working!
> 
> Yes, it does work. I tried a variety of adapters to get audio but nothing 
> worked, I received my 3.5mm Sony compatible composite cable and found VLC was 
> not working right, I'd get video but no audio. So I downloaded some trial 
> video software (Debut Video Capture Free) from the App Store and it works! 
> The only way I knew the sound worked was the vu meter at the bottom of the 
> window. This makes me think that VLC was receiving audio also, just not 
> 'playing through' to the speakers or headphones. But VLC kept crashing no 
> matter what I tried so I recorded with this new software and it seems OK 
> although it has a watermark without paying the $49.95.
> 
> I also tried Audacity to get an uncompressed audio capture and it works too.
> 
> The s-video out does not work but I really don't know if that is the camera, 
> the cable or the capture device.
> 
> One of my old tapes is me working around the ranch, the train and the animals 
> but it looks like when I recorded it the tracking was off on the camera and 
> it is unwatchable. I figure I'm going to have to get that old camera working 
> to play it back, anyone know anything about fixing old Sony 8mm video cameras?
> 
> Russell Courtenay
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Russell Courtenay  
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> So I finally got a chance to test this thing and the USB extension cable 
>> supplied is no good, it shows up when plugged directly into the USB port, 
>> not through the cable. Shows up on both the PC and the iMac but I can’t get 
>> any video feed from my Sony Hi8 8mm video camera. 
>> 
>> I think it may be the output on the camera but I only have an s-video cable 
>> (the later Sonys use a proprietary 4 conductor 3.5mm composite video cable 
>> that I don’t have and will take two weeks to get from eBay). I tired a 
>> composite cable with an s-video adapter and that didn’t work either.
>> 
>> I have the old Sony most of these tapes were originally recorded on and it 
>> has composite outputs but it was dropped (and I then found out it had been 
>> dropped and glued back together BEFORE I bought it as when I opened it up I 
>> found lots of broken glue joints). I haven’t tried it in a while but as I 
>> recall it also had a tracking problem. 
>> 
>> I really hate video tapes and their tracking problems, seems like every VCR 
>> I have had over the years has had the tracking and a belt or two go out and 
>> you have to remove a LOT of screws to fix either…
>> 
>> I have a third Sony video camera but it doesn’t work at all. This is getting 
>> pretty complicated…
>> 
>> I did find more video tapes I didn’t know I had including one of me playing 
>> my guitar the our local Cherry Festival in 1999! I guess I could just watch 
>> it on the 1.5” LCD on the camera with sound on only one side of the 
>> headphones….
>> 
>> Russell Courtenay
>> 
>> Sent from my old iMac
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Russell Courtenay  
 wrote:
 
 I have been wanting one of these for years to play around with but 
 hesitated to pay $70 for the El Gato device so I plunked down a whole $7 
 for a generic version off of eBay.
 
 The auction said 'Mac' in the title but I didn't believe that as it showed 
 a 3" cd, which I KNOW won't work on any Mac, but I figured I'd try it 
 anyway, most of the software is built into modern operating systems I 
 suppose...
 
 So I couldn't resist and popped it open to reveal some very generic 
 looking chips…
>>> 
>>> \Plug it into your Mac, then open System Information, go to the USB section 
>>> and see if it says the product and vendor id is:
>>> 
>>> Kensington Slimblade Trackball:
>>> 
>>>   Product ID: 0x2041
>>>   Vendor ID: 0x047d  (Kensington)
>>>   Version: 1.07
>>>   Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
>>>   Manufacturer: Kensington
>>>   Location ID: 0xfa133000 / 12
>>>   Current Available (mA):  500
>>>   Current Required (mA):  100
>>>   Extra Operating Current (mA):
>>> 0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Googling that will often lead you to the OEM and suitable downloadable 
>>> drivers. WIthout the driver it won’t properly show all the details or work, 
>>> but it’s often enough info to hunt down the drivers, or at least the OEM. 
>>> if mac drivers exist…
>>> 
>>> But, as Michael Shaw says any non-slot loading 

Re: USB Digital Video Converter

2017-04-23 Thread 'sasse' via iMac Group
Russell, checked withNational Camera they may have someone in your area that 
can helped with the fix of your camera and also the TIMING of your tape.Douglas 
in Minnesota

Sent on cell 
 
  On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 9:36, Russell Idaho - USA 
wrote:   So I FINALLY got the digital video converter working!
Yes, it does work. I tried a variety of adapters to get audio but nothing 
worked, I received my 3.5mm Sony compatible composite cable and found VLC was 
not working right, I'd get video but no audio. So I downloaded some trial video 
software (Debut Video Capture Free) from the App Store and it works! The only 
way I knew the sound worked was the vu meter at the bottom of the window. This 
makes me think that VLC was receiving audio also, just not 'playing through' to 
the speakers or headphones. But VLC kept crashing no matter what I tried so I 
recorded with this new software and it seems OK although it has a watermark 
without paying the $49.95.
I also tried Audacity to get an uncompressed audio capture and it works too.
The s-video out does not work but I really don't know if that is the camera, 
the cable or the capture device.
One of my old tapes is me working around the ranch, the train and the animals 
but it looks like when I recorded it the tracking was off on the camera and it 
is unwatchable. I figure I'm going to have to get that old camera working to 
play it back, anyone know anything about fixing old Sony 8mm video cameras?

Russell Courtenay
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 16, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Russell Courtenay  wrote:


So I finally got a chance to test this thing and the USB extension cable 
supplied is no good, it shows up when plugged directly into the USB port, not 
through the cable. Shows up on both the PC and the iMac but I can’t get any 
video feed from my Sony Hi8 8mm video camera. 
I think it may be the output on the camera but I only have an s-video cable 
(the later Sonys use a proprietary 4 conductor 3.5mm composite video cable that 
I don’t have and will take two weeks to get from eBay). I tired a composite 
cable with an s-video adapter and that didn’t work either.
I have the old Sony most of these tapes were originally recorded on and it has 
composite outputs but it was dropped (and I then found out it had been dropped 
and glued back together BEFORE I bought it as when I opened it up I found lots 
of broken glue joints). I haven’t tried it in a while but as I recall it also 
had a tracking problem. 
I really hate video tapes and their tracking problems, seems like every VCR I 
have had over the years has had the tracking and a belt or two go out and you 
have to remove a LOT of screws to fix either…
I have a third Sony video camera but it doesn’t work at all. This is getting 
pretty complicated…
I did find more video tapes I didn’t know I had including one of me playing my 
guitar the our local Cherry Festival in 1999! I guess I could just watch it on 
the 1.5” LCD on the camera with sound on only one side of the headphones….
Russell Courtenay
Sent from my old iMac

On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson  
wrote:


On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Russell Courtenay  wrote:
I have been wanting one of these for years to play around with but hesitated to 
pay $70 for the El Gato device so I plunked down a whole $7 for a generic 
version off of eBay.

The auction said 'Mac' in the title but I didn't believe that as it showed a 3" 
cd, which I KNOW won't work on any Mac, but I figured I'd try it anyway, most 
of the software is built into modern operating systems I suppose...

So I couldn't resist and popped it open to reveal some very generic looking 
chips…

\Plug it into your Mac, then open System Information, go to the USB section and 
see if it says the product and vendor id is:
Kensington Slimblade Trackball:
  Product ID: 0x2041  Vendor ID: 0x047d  (Kensington)  Version: 1.07  Speed: Up 
to 1.5 Mb/sec  Manufacturer: Kensington  Location ID: 0xfa133000 / 12  Current 
Available (mA): 500  Current Required (mA): 100  Extra Operating Current (mA):0

Googling that will often lead you to the OEM and suitable downloadable drivers. 
WIthout the driver it won’t properly show all the details or work, but it’s 
often enough info to hunt down the drivers, or at least the OEM. if mac drivers 
exist…
But, as Michael Shaw says any non-slot loading optical drive will also work 
with those 3” cd’s.



-- 
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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: USB Digital Video Converter

2017-04-23 Thread Russell Idaho - USA
So I FINALLY got the digital video converter working!

Yes, it does work. I tried a variety of adapters to get audio but nothing
worked, I received my 3.5mm Sony compatible composite cable and found VLC
was not working right, I'd get video but no audio. So I downloaded some
trial video software (Debut Video Capture Free) from the App Store and it
works! The only way I knew the sound worked was the vu meter at the bottom
of the window. This makes me think that VLC was receiving audio also, just
not 'playing through' to the speakers or headphones. But VLC kept crashing
no matter what I tried so I recorded with this new software and it seems OK
although it has a watermark without paying the $49.95.

I also tried Audacity to get an uncompressed audio capture and it works too.

The s-video out does not work but I really don't know if that is the
camera, the cable or the capture device.

One of my old tapes is me working around the ranch, the train and the
animals but it looks like when I recorded it the tracking was off on the
camera and it is unwatchable. I figure I'm going to have to get that old
camera working to play it back, anyone know anything about fixing old Sony
8mm video cameras?

Russell Courtenay

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 16, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Russell Courtenay 
wrote:

So I finally got a chance to test this thing and the USB extension cable
supplied is no good, it shows up when plugged directly into the USB port,
not through the cable. Shows up on both the PC and the iMac but I can’t get
any video feed from my Sony Hi8 8mm video camera.

I think it may be the output on the camera but I only have an s-video cable
(the later Sonys use a proprietary 4 conductor 3.5mm composite video cable
that I don’t have and will take two weeks to get from eBay). I tired a
composite cable with an s-video adapter and that didn’t work either.

I have the old Sony most of these tapes were originally recorded on and it
has composite outputs but it was dropped (and I then found out it had been
dropped and glued back together BEFORE I bought it as when I opened it up I
found lots of broken glue joints). I haven’t tried it in a while but as I
recall it also had a tracking problem.

I really hate video tapes and their tracking problems, seems like every VCR
I have had over the years has had the tracking and a belt or two go out and
you have to remove a LOT of screws to fix either…

I have a third Sony video camera but it doesn’t work at all. This is
getting pretty complicated…

I did find more video tapes I didn’t know I had including one of me playing
my guitar the our local Cherry Festival in 1999! I guess I could just watch
it on the 1.5” LCD on the camera with sound on only one side of the
headphones….

Russell Courtenay

Sent from my old iMac

On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson > wrote:


On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Russell Courtenay 
wrote:

I have been wanting one of these for years to play around with but
hesitated to pay $70 for the El Gato device so I plunked down a whole $7
for a generic version off of eBay.

The auction said 'Mac' in the title but I didn't believe that as it showed
a 3" cd, which I KNOW won't work on any Mac, but I figured I'd try it
anyway, most of the software is built into modern operating systems I
suppose...

So I couldn't resist and popped it open to reveal some very generic looking
chips…


\Plug it into your Mac, then open System Information, go to the USB section
and see if it says the product and vendor id is:

*Kensington Slimblade Trackball:*

  Product ID: 0x2041
  Vendor ID: 0x047d  (Kensington)
  Version: 1.07
  Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Kensington
  Location ID: 0xfa133000 / 12
  Current Available (mA): 500
  Current Required (mA): 100
  Extra Operating Current (mA): 0


Googling that will often lead you to the OEM and suitable downloadable
drivers. WIthout the driver it won’t properly show all the details or work,
but it’s often enough info to hunt down the drivers, or at least the OEM.
if mac drivers exist…

But, as Michael Shaw says any non-slot loading optical drive will also work
with those 3” cd’s.




-- 
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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Re: USB Digital Video Converter

2017-04-16 Thread Russell Courtenay
So I finally got a chance to test this thing and the USB extension cable 
supplied is no good, it shows up when plugged directly into the USB port, not 
through the cable. Shows up on both the PC and the iMac but I can’t get any 
video feed from my Sony Hi8 8mm video camera. 

I think it may be the output on the camera but I only have an s-video cable 
(the later Sonys use a proprietary 4 conductor 3.5mm composite video cable that 
I don’t have and will take two weeks to get from eBay). I tired a composite 
cable with an s-video adapter and that didn’t work either.

I have the old Sony most of these tapes were originally recorded on and it has 
composite outputs but it was dropped (and I then found out it had been dropped 
and glued back together BEFORE I bought it as when I opened it up I found lots 
of broken glue joints). I haven’t tried it in a while but as I recall it also 
had a tracking problem. 

I really hate video tapes and their tracking problems, seems like every VCR I 
have had over the years has had the tracking and a belt or two go out and you 
have to remove a LOT of screws to fix either…

I have a third Sony video camera but it doesn’t work at all. This is getting 
pretty complicated…

I did find more video tapes I didn’t know I had including one of me playing my 
guitar the our local Cherry Festival in 1999! I guess I could just watch it on 
the 1.5” LCD on the camera with sound on only one side of the headphones….

Russell Courtenay

Sent from my old iMac

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Russell Courtenay > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have been wanting one of these for years to play around with but hesitated 
>> to pay $70 for the El Gato device so I plunked down a whole $7 for a generic 
>> version off of eBay.
>> 
>> The auction said 'Mac' in the title but I didn't believe that as it showed a 
>> 3" cd, which I KNOW won't work on any Mac, but I figured I'd try it anyway, 
>> most of the software is built into modern operating systems I suppose...
>> 
>> So I couldn't resist and popped it open to reveal some very generic looking 
>> chips…
> 
> \Plug it into your Mac, then open System Information, go to the USB section 
> and see if it says the product and vendor id is:
> 
> Kensington Slimblade Trackball:
> 
>   Product ID: 0x2041
>   Vendor ID: 0x047d  (Kensington)
>   Version: 1.07
>   Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
>   Manufacturer: Kensington
>   Location ID: 0xfa133000 / 12
>   Current Available (mA):  500
>   Current Required (mA):  100
>   Extra Operating Current (mA):
> 0
> 
> 
> Googling that will often lead you to the OEM and suitable downloadable 
> drivers. WIthout the driver it won’t properly show all the details or work, 
> but it’s often enough info to hunt down the drivers, or at least the OEM. if 
> mac drivers exist…
> 
> But, as Michael Shaw says any non-slot loading optical drive will also work 
> with those 3” cd’s.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: USB Digital Video Converter

2017-03-28 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Russell Courtenay 
> wrote:

I have been wanting one of these for years to play around with but hesitated to 
pay $70 for the El Gato device so I plunked down a whole $7 for a generic 
version off of eBay.

The auction said 'Mac' in the title but I didn't believe that as it showed a 3" 
cd, which I KNOW won't work on any Mac, but I figured I'd try it anyway, most 
of the software is built into modern operating systems I suppose...

So I couldn't resist and popped it open to reveal some very generic looking 
chips…

\Plug it into your Mac, then open System Information, go to the USB section and 
see if it says the product and vendor id is:

Kensington Slimblade Trackball:

  Product ID: 0x2041
  Vendor ID: 0x047d  (Kensington)
  Version: 1.07
  Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Kensington
  Location ID: 0xfa133000 / 12
  Current Available (mA): 500
  Current Required (mA): 100
  Extra Operating Current (mA): 0


Googling that will often lead you to the OEM and suitable downloadable drivers. 
WIthout the driver it won’t properly show all the details or work, but it’s 
often enough info to hunt down the drivers, or at least the OEM. if mac drivers 
exist…

But, as Michael Shaw says any non-slot loading optical drive will also work 
with those 3” cd’s.




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Re: USB Digital Video Converter

2017-03-28 Thread Michael Shaw
Those little CDs will not work in "slot-loading" optical drives BUT they DO
work in everything else.

Every optical drive built since 1990 that has a drawer that slides out has
a special centre divot for mini-CDs.

Mike

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Russell Courtenay 
wrote:

> I have been wanting one of these for years to play around with but
> hesitated to pay $70 for the El Gato device so I plunked down a whole $7
> for a generic version off of eBay.
>
> The auction said 'Mac' in the title but I didn't believe that as it showed
> a 3" cd, which I KNOW won't work on any Mac, but I figured I'd try it
> anyway, most of the software is built into modern operating systems I
> suppose...
>
> So I couldn't resist and popped it open to reveal some very generic
> looking chips...
>
> Russell Courtenay
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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