Re: upgrade HD for g3
Success! Worth it, in my view. Both storage space and speed for some actions clearly increased over old harddrive, and also faster than r/w to firewire drives. New 7200 drive was partitioned into a 128G part and a remainder (mostly unaccessed!) part, and I cloned the system into the former. The imac case is warmer than before, so fingers crossed about that. RS On Dec 17 2011, 4:26 pm, Mike Linnett mike.dogho...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, 17 December 2011 at 16:36, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/12/16 21:36, Dennis Faulkner so eloquently wrote: As somewhat of a novice, what would too hot for Imac's mean - would that mean that you would need to upgrade the fan further, or house this drive in a external housing, or what? The Al plate that the boards are mounted to in the G3 iMacs acts as a giant heat sink and conducts the heat away from the CPU, then the heat is dispersed by passive convection (no fan). So any additional heat generated beyond what it was designed to handle can be hard to dissipate, though it's probably not much of an issue unless it is operating in a warm environment, running at 100% or doesn't have much air movement around it. Tina -- Modern drives probably run a bit cooler than older ones too, even if they're a higher rpm, I put a 7200rpm seagate drive in my nan's iMac a while ago and it's been fine since. But, external firewire drive-no internal bus size limit (or hacks to get around it), no surgery required, easy to replace/upgrade in the future. Firewire might be faster than the internal at a bus anyway, it'll only be ata-66, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade HD for g3
On Saturday, 17 December 2011 at 16:36, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/12/16 21:36, Dennis Faulkner so eloquently wrote: As somewhat of a novice, what would too hot for Imac's mean - would that mean that you would need to upgrade the fan further, or house this drive in a external housing, or what? The Al plate that the boards are mounted to in the G3 iMacs acts as a giant heat sink and conducts the heat away from the CPU, then the heat is dispersed by passive convection (no fan). So any additional heat generated beyond what it was designed to handle can be hard to dissipate, though it's probably not much of an issue unless it is operating in a warm environment, running at 100% or doesn't have much air movement around it. Tina -- Modern drives probably run a bit cooler than older ones too, even if they're a higher rpm, I put a 7200rpm seagate drive in my nan's iMac a while ago and it's been fine since. But, external firewire drive-no internal bus size limit (or hacks to get around it), no surgery required, easy to replace/upgrade in the future. Firewire might be faster than the internal at a bus anyway, it'll only be ata-66, right? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade HD for g3
On 2011/12/16 21:36, Dennis Faulkner so eloquently wrote: As somewhat of a novice, what would too hot for Imac's mean - would that mean that you would need to upgrade the fan further, or house this drive in a external housing, or what? The Al plate that the boards are mounted to in the G3 iMacs acts as a giant heat sink and conducts the heat away from the CPU, then the heat is dispersed by passive convection (no fan). So any additional heat generated beyond what it was designed to handle can be hard to dissipate, though it's probably not much of an issue unless it is operating in a warm environment, running at 100% or doesn't have much air movement around it. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade HD for g3
That Maxtor will work, but why not go for a 7200rpm and up to a 120gb hdd? OWC has a 160gb hdd @ 7200rpm for $83.00. Here's the link. http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm? Ntk=PrimaryNs=P_Popularity%7c1Ne=5000N=6900Ntt=3.5+Internal+IDE% 2fATA If you iMac has a 5400 in it now, a 7200 will seem like such a speed demon, not to mention todays technology and data caches will make even a 5400 seem faster than the old technology that what's in there now. If you are going to go to the trouble of the major surgery your talking about, go as big and fast as you can. You may even want to replace your DVD burner with a DVDRW... you can get those for just a few dollars--then you could not only watch DVD's, but record them too. GOOD LUCK MERRY CHRISTMAS! On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:34 AM, r_poetic wrote: Hello, while some earlier posts have touched on upgrading g3 iMac's, I just wanted to pose my specific question. I want to replace the 10 G hard drive on this 400MH slot load with something bigger and faster. I believe there is no point in going above 128 G, and no faster than 5200rpm. There aren't a lot of drives for sale now that fit that. If it's ok to mention names, I wondered if this item, Maxtor 80 GB 5400 rpm IDE ATA/133 2MB Cache 3.5 Internal Hard Drive, would likely work for me? or other advice? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade HD for g3
If you are looking for a 120GB+ solution. look no further: www.speedtools.com/ATA6 Install this driver for $25 on any PowerPC Mac running Mac OS X 10.4 or later, then install anything in terms of capacity. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.netwrote: That Maxtor will work, but why not go for a 7200rpm and up to a 120gb hdd? OWC has a 160gb hdd @ 7200rpm for $83.00. Here's the link. http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm?Ntk=PrimaryNs=P_Popularity%7c1Ne=5000N=6900Ntt=3.5+Internal+IDE%2fATA If you iMac has a 5400 in it now, a 7200 will seem like such a speed demon, not to mention todays technology and data caches will make even a 5400 seem faster than the old technology that what's in there now. If you are going to go to the trouble of the major surgery your talking about, go as big and fast as you can. You may even want to replace your DVD burner with a DVDRW... you can get those for just a few dollars--then you could not only watch DVD's, but record them too. GOOD LUCK MERRY CHRISTMAS! On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:34 AM, r_poetic wrote: Hello, while some earlier posts have touched on upgrading g3 iMac's, I just wanted to pose my specific question. I want to replace the 10 G hard drive on this 400MH slot load with something bigger and faster. I believe there is no point in going above 128 G, and no faster than 5200rpm. There aren't a lot of drives for sale now that fit that. If it's ok to mention names, I wondered if this item, Maxtor 80 GB 5400 rpm IDE ATA/133 2MB Cache 3.5 Internal Hard Drive, would likely work for me? or other advice? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade HD for g3
Thank you all. Re the speed of drive, I have read in Macworld's article about upgrading these g3's that: 1. A 5,400-rpm ATA or Ultra ATA hard drive (faster drives may be too hot for iMacs). I am sitting on the fence about upgrading from current 10.3 to 10.4. Probably I will do it... The SpeedTools product sounds great, and their website actually says 10.3 will work with it. R On Dec 16, 11:05 am, J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net wrote: That Maxtor will work, but why not go for a 7200rpm and up to a 120gb hdd? OWC has a 160gb hdd @ 7200rpm for $83.00. Here's the link.http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm? Ntk=PrimaryNs=P_Popularity%7c1Ne=5000N=6900Ntt=3.5+Internal+IDE% 2fATA If you iMac has a 5400 in it now, a 7200 will seem like such a speed demon, not to mention todays technology and data caches will make even a 5400 seem faster than the old technology that what's in there now. If you are going to go to the trouble of the major surgery your talking about, go as big and fast as you can. You may even want to replace your DVD burner with a DVDRW... you can get those for just a few dollars--then you could not only watch DVD's, but record them too. GOOD LUCK MERRY CHRISTMAS! On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:34 AM, r_poetic wrote: Hello, while some earlier posts have touched on upgrading g3 iMac's, I just wanted to pose my specific question. I want to replace the 10 G hard drive on this 400MH slot load with something bigger and faster. I believe there is no point in going above 128 G, and no faster than 5200rpm. There aren't a lot of drives for sale now that fit that. If it's ok to mention names, I wondered if this item, Maxtor 80 GB 5400 rpm IDE ATA/133 2MB Cache 3.5 Internal Hard Drive, would likely work for me? or other advice? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
