Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-13 Thread Seth Jones
Oy veh.  Please don't remind me of that chimpanzee pretending to be a  
CEO.  I hope I'm not the only one who has noticed how badly microsoft  
has fared since ballmer took office.  If He's forever, then microsoft  
cant be.  I am convinced that as long as its a match up between jobs  
and ballmer, microsoft will be beaten at every turn.   Eventually  
though someone is going to cal for his resignation and if they replace  
him with somone at least as good as jobs is in rebuilding and  
maintaining a brand, then apple will be in trouble.  Overall, I tend  
to think that both have some serious adapting to do ahead if they are  
to survive at all.  So long as jobs in in power apple should do fine,  
microsoft right now seems to have hit an iceburg and is slowly  
sinking.  Google is doing some amazing stuff but either has some  
learning to do or is way ahead of its time.

On Nov 12, 2009 AD, at 9:34 PM, Bill Chapman wrote:

 'boogie man'... you mean Steve Ballmer? lol

 Dan wrote:
 At 3:17 PM -0800 11/12/2009, Dennis Faulkner wrote, html stripped:

 Personally, I feel middle of the road on religion


 Gods come and go as cultures change.  Only the Boogie Man is forever.

 End of OT thread please.

 - Dan.


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Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-13 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 11/13/09 2:09 AM, Seth Jones sethamosjo...@gmail.com Spew into the
cybertrough:

Guys and gals, this thread is dead.  I can't believe I missed it earlier.
Further posting on topics such as religion will result in you being
moderated.

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atheist insult?

2009-11-12 Thread Dennis Faulkner
 
Why the atheist insult to Simon?  That seems very rude! Personally, I feel 
middle of the road on religion - on one side, I used to go to a church called 
Harvest Temple, in Lakeside, California. I have very fond memories of this, the 
church was colorful, the first place I felt really loved and accepted. Earlier 
growing up, we belonged to the Methodist church, but my dad was very abusive, 
and it seemed very strange for him to be in that church, and to behave that 
way. This of course was not a methodist problem, but seemed strange to me as 
a child.

Flash forward today - I read now complaints about perhaps our former pastor 
being involved in preaching the financial blessings bit to people who can't 
afford to give money in very poor countries - I find myself wondering if he 
really believes this will help these people, or is it a scam?

Religion itself can be very scary - families are often torn apart!  I know of a 
young gay guy I knew growing up who actually changed his name, because he hated 
the young man he was growing up, he did not feel accepted in any way by his 
religious group, nor by his family.  People have committed suicide because they 
did not feel they were o.k. by their religious upbringing. 

Be careful - religion is not all good - it can be very evil. I am considering 
going back to another state where my distant relatives are, until now I have 
lived 2000 miles  away.  It is amazing how the talk will go to fear of going 
to hell or burning forever.   It is also troublesome when you try to have a 
honest discussion about religion and your hand is gently slapped because you 
are talking about the sacred cow.  Yet, I really don't see a peace in my 
older relatives who are approaching the end of their lives, they seem scared.  

An atheist is not necessarily someone who has lost all faith, they don't always 
dress all in black, with their heads hanging down saying the end is near - I 
find myself religious in a sense - I found out a friend died young hiking on a 
trail - I find myself thinking he existed before he was born, and after he died 
- if he died. However, I find myself thinking also that when we find out what 
really happens after death, it may very well shatter our little preconcieved 
notions about what all this is about. 

Dennis


On Wednesday, November 11, 2009, at 08:22PM, Sandy 
sandracharlot...@yahoo.com wrote:


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Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-12 Thread John Callahan
WHERE ARE THE NANNIES!!!
On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Dennis Faulkner wrote:

 Why the atheist insult to Simon? That seems very rude! Personally,  
 I feel middle of the road on religion - on one side, I used to go  
 to a church called Harvest Temple, in Lakeside, California. I have  
 very fond memories of this, the church was colorful, the first  
 place I felt really loved and accepted. Earlier growing up, we  
 belonged to the Methodist church, but my dad was very abusive, and  
 it seemed very strange for him to be in that church, and to behave  
 that way. This of course was not a methodist problem, but seemed  
 strange to me as a child. Flash forward today - I read now  
 complaints about perhaps our former pastor being involved in  
 preaching the financial blessings bit to people who can't afford to  
 give money in very poor countries - I find myself wondering if he  
 really believes this will help these people, or is it a scam?  
 Religion itself can be very scary - families are often torn apart!  
 I know of a young gay guy I knew growing up who actually changed  
 his name, because he hated the young man he was growing up, he did  
 not feel accepted in any way by his religious group, nor by his  
 family. People have committed suicide because they did not feel  
 they were o.k. by their religious upbringing. Be careful - religion  
 is not all good - it can be very evil. I am considering going back  
 to another state where my distant relatives are, until now I have  
 lived 2000 miles away. It is amazing how the talk will go to fear  
 of going to hell or burning forever. It is also troublesome  
 when you try to have a honest discussion about religion and your  
 hand is gently slapped because you are talking about the sacred  
 cow. Yet, I really don't see a peace in my older relatives who are  
 approaching the end of their lives, they seem scared. An atheist is  
 not necessarily someone who has lost all faith, they don't always  
 dress all in black, with their heads hanging down saying the end is  
 near - I find myself religious in a sense - I found out a friend  
 died young hiking on a trail - I find myself thinking he existed  
 before he was born, and after he died - if he died. However, I find  
 myself thinking also that when we find out what really happens  
 after death, it may very well shatter our little preconcieved  
 notions about what all this is about. Dennis On Wednesday, November  
 11, 2009, at 08:22PM, Sandy sandracharlot...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Simon:  Why are you leaving?  Still an atheist?  Or, are you  
 leaving that too?  Sandy



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 Subject: Goodbye...
 To: iMac Group imaclist@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 3:09 PM


 Hi.

 I have enjoyed being on this group and if my circumstances change then
 I shall join again, but for now, goodbye.

 Simon
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Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-12 Thread Elliott Price
Goodness, people, I'm pretty sure she was making a joke! She was using atheist 
to refer to a non Mac disposition. Right??


-Elliott Price
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On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Callahan wrote:

 WHERE ARE THE NANNIES!!!
 On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Dennis Faulkner wrote:
 
 Why the atheist insult to Simon? That seems very rude! Personally,  
 I feel middle of the road on religion - on one side, I used to go  
 to a church called Harvest Temple, in Lakeside, California. I have  
 very fond memories of this, the church was colorful, the first  
 place I felt really loved and accepted. Earlier growing up, we  
 belonged to the Methodist church, but my dad was very abusive, and  
 it seemed very strange for him to be in that church, and to behave  
 that way. This of course was not a methodist problem, but seemed  
 strange to me as a child. Flash forward today - I read now  
 complaints about perhaps our former pastor being involved in  
 preaching the financial blessings bit to people who can't afford to  
 give money in very poor countries - I find myself wondering if he  
 really believes this will help these people, or is it a scam?  
 Religion itself can be very scary - families are often torn apart!  
 I know of a young gay guy I knew growing up who actually changed  
 his name, because he hated the young man he was growing up, he did  
 not feel accepted in any way by his religious group, nor by his  
 family. People have committed suicide because they did not feel  
 they were o.k. by their religious upbringing. Be careful - religion  
 is not all good - it can be very evil. I am considering going back  
 to another state where my distant relatives are, until now I have  
 lived 2000 miles away. It is amazing how the talk will go to fear  
 of going to hell or burning forever. It is also troublesome  
 when you try to have a honest discussion about religion and your  
 hand is gently slapped because you are talking about the sacred  
 cow. Yet, I really don't see a peace in my older relatives who are  
 approaching the end of their lives, they seem scared. An atheist is  
 not necessarily someone who has lost all faith, they don't always  
 dress all in black, with their heads hanging down saying the end is  
 near - I find myself religious in a sense - I found out a friend  
 died young hiking on a trail - I find myself thinking he existed  
 before he was born, and after he died - if he died. However, I find  
 myself thinking also that when we find out what really happens  
 after death, it may very well shatter our little preconcieved  
 notions about what all this is about. Dennis On Wednesday, November  
 11, 2009, at 08:22PM, Sandy sandracharlot...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Simon:  Why are you leaving?  Still an atheist?  Or, are you  
 leaving that too?  Sandy
 
 
 
 --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Simon Royal m...@simonroyal.co.uk wrote:
 
 From: Simon Royal m...@simonroyal.co.uk
 Subject: Goodbye...
 To: iMac Group imaclist@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 3:09 PM
 
 
 Hi.
 
 I have enjoyed being on this group and if my circumstances change then
 I shall join again, but for now, goodbye.
 
 Simon
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Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-12 Thread Tom Coradeschi
Don't you all have lives? Please go live them and stop filling my 
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Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-12 Thread Kasey Smith
i agree... no one cares
On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote:

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Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-12 Thread Bill Chapman
ditto here... my inbox is choking


Kasey Smith wrote:
 i agree... no one cares
 On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote:

   
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Re: atheist insult?

2009-11-12 Thread Bill Chapman
'boogie man'... you mean Steve Ballmer? lol

Dan wrote:
 At 3:17 PM -0800 11/12/2009, Dennis Faulkner wrote, html stripped:
   
 Personally, I feel middle of the road on religion
 

 Gods come and go as cultures change.  Only the Boogie Man is forever.

 End of OT thread please.

 - Dan.
   

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