Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:07 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On 1/20/10 10:56 AM, FluxStringer wrote: Recently I was handed an iMac that needed a home. It took me a while to find a power cord, but it started on the first try. It seems to have gone unused since '06. But even with a dirty face it was too cute tor the lady to throw out and the little guy/gal (?) runs pretty snappy for 350 MHz. I guess you call it a blueberry. Sort of a Bondi blue back with a pearly striped front. slot load of course. ( I just found out it is a Blueberry as I stuck in a DVD which it wont spit out! I could have looked at ASP, but it had DVD player on the Apple menu!)) It is running 9.2 and I find no OS X volume. Me ? I have been on the PCI list since '99 and the G list since about '05. I'm also on several other LEM lists. I am semi retired but interested in video and web media production and the applications that support those efforts. I also speak some PC but come from an Amiga background so I hold some strong opinions there. Anyway I'll be looking to the swap list to max out this little tyke's memory lobe. Maybe a bigger internal drive too. If anyone can tell me how to coax it to spit up the DVD for a test with a CD I would appreciate it. It keeps cycling so there is never an icon and the other methods don't work. I find no eject pinhole either. Hold down the mouse button on startup, that should eject the disk. VERY IMPORTANT... Check the firmware version. If you attempt to BOOT from an OS X installer disk and the firmware hasn't been updated the video will stop working and it's very hard to get it back. Here's a web page for the update: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75130#English Or just run software update from OS9 like me. Also, try looking under the RAM door for the airport card. It sits in an adaptor converts the little mini connector on the iMac's mobo to the PCMCIA pins on the AirPort card. And Robert, my 400MHz Summer 2000 iMac DV cost me $20 :P -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.comwrote: If anyone can tell me how to coax it to spit up the DVD for a test with a CD I would appreciate it. It keeps cycling so there is never an icon and the other methods don't work. I find no eject pinhole either. What do I do, tickle it under the chin ? Try booting with the Option key held down, and select the eject button when you get that fancy boot list. I've never had one that doesn't spit the disk back out (sometimes it's really sick, and barfs it out onto my floor though) As for a HDD, you'll be needing an IDE drive, you can scavange one out of literally any PC pre-vista, and it'll work. As for memory, any PC that's pre-2002 will usually have what you're looking for, but them iMacs are so dang picky when it comes to RAM that it likes... I went through half my box before I found a pair of 256mb sticks to use (and that's one big box of stuff too) I've had the most trouble with mine having problems forgetting the date, but I just recovered a still good battery from my rusty (literally) trusty PM6100, so all I need is an excuse to open it. Just out of curiousioty, does it happen to have an AirPort card and adapter? I am starting to contemplate getting one because my current solution isn't working one bit. There is no eject button. As for Airport card I cannot find it listed in the ASP.But it does seem to have one as the panel see local signals including my own. Adapter? If you mean a USB adapter no. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
I'm a little late to this iMac rescue discussion, but here are some thoughts: 1) Get a firewire external drive that allows you to use your own hard drives. I frequently disconnect the hard drive and replace it with a DVD-ROM drive rescued from a PowerMac. It looks awkward - very awkward - but you can now load software from DVDs. 2) If you open the iMac, which is not too difficult, plan on doing as much work as possible; that is, replace the battery, install a larger hard drive (5400rpm is best due to heat), and if you have a replacement DVD-ROM drive this is a good time to do it - although I never bother as I use the external firewire drive. 3) Remember, on a good day a 350MB iMac is worth $50 and that is a pick-up price. Don't over improve. OS X 10.4 Tiger will bog it down horribly no matter how much RAM you put in it. OS X 10.3 Panther is okay, but in my experience OS 9 remains the hands-down favorite to get the maximum performance out of this machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
The best and safest way to eject the optical drive is to hold Opt. while booting, and then either press the EJECT button on the keyboard, or Apple+E if a dedicated eject button isn't present. ( I think this is what Christian was suggesting, but I wasn't sure?) Sticking a paperclip randomly around in the CD drive can be a potential hazard... If you don't know where exactly the button is, you could break something, or scratch the disk. I've never had much luck finding the button, and while some drives have the hidden button, some just don't. Sticking credit cards in won't work; when the drive pulls a CD or DVD in, it seats in on the spindle, and locks two arms around the CD, between it and the opening. Forcing these arms and/or forcing the CD off the spindle will probably damage the drive, so I would NOT recommend this method. If worst comes to worst and the drive won't eject, the best way is to take the top off of the optical drive, and pop the CD off the spindle. (Just like you would a tray-loading drive) As for how to determine if it has an Airport card, it should be easy; Just turn the little knob and open the RAM/Airport access panel. If there's an Airport card, you'll see it; if not, you won't. :) -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Tim Stephens wrote: There is no eject button. IIRC, there is an eject pinhole disguised in the slot at the right hand side of the drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Tim Stephens wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:00:44AM -0500, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.comwrote: If anyone can tell me how to coax it to spit up the DVD for a test with a CD I would appreciate it. It keeps cycling so there is never an icon and the other methods don't work. I find no eject pinhole either. There is no eject button. IIRC, there is an eject pinhole disguised in the slot at the right hand side of the drive. Apple's technote is here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3007 I also note, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2285, which has a couple more tips should you not manage to get the above working. Tim is exactly right. If you take a straightened paper clip or other slender stick and put between the fuzzies on the far right side of the slot, you'll find the eject switch. It's just a plastic covered bump, but if you press it carefully, you'll feel it give as the contacts meet each other. It's kind of like the feel of a Mac Mini switch. Practice finding and pressing it while the iMac is off, then do it while it's running. You'll hear the optical drive's inject/eject motor run. If that doesn't eject the disk, the pull-it-out-with-two-plastic-credit-cards trick *might* work, *if* the rubber eject roller is able to grip the disk enough to get it partially out. If that doesn't work, then either the rubber eject roller is so coated with lint/dust/dreck that it has no grip on the disk, or the little rubber band-like roller drive belt has broken or lost its ability to grip its pulleys. A simple cleaning of the roller and drive belt (I use Goof-Off because it restores the rubber's sticky quality) will get things in working order again. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
Elliott Price wrote: The best and safest way to eject the optical drive is to hold Opt. while booting, and then either press the EJECT button on the keyboard, or Apple+E if a dedicated eject button isn't present. ( I think this is what Christian was suggesting, but I wasn't sure?) Sticking a paperclip randomly around in the CD drive can be a potential hazard... If you don't know where exactly the button is, you could break something, or scratch the disk. I've never had much luck finding the button, and while some drives have the hidden button, some just don't. Sticking credit cards in won't work; when the drive pulls a CD or DVD in, it seats in on the spindle, and locks two arms around the CD, between it and the opening. Forcing these arms and/or forcing the CD off the spindle will probably damage the drive, so I would NOT recommend this method. If worst comes to worst and the drive won't eject, the best way is to take the top off of the optical drive, and pop the CD off the spindle. (Just like you would a tray-loading drive) As for how to determine if it has an Airport card, it should be easy; Just turn the little knob and open the RAM/Airport access panel. If there's an Airport card, you'll see it; if not, you won't. :) No, just hold down the mouse button on boot-up. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Elliott Price wrote: The best and safest way to eject the optical drive is to hold Opt. while booting, and then either press the EJECT button on the keyboard, or Apple+E if a dedicated eject button isn't present. ( I think this is what Christian was suggesting, but I wasn't sure?) Sticking a paperclip randomly around in the CD drive can be a potential hazard... If you don't know where exactly the button is, you could break something, or scratch the disk. I've never had much luck finding the button, and while some drives have the hidden button, some just don't. Sticking credit cards in won't work; when the drive pulls a CD or DVD in, it seats in on the spindle, and locks two arms around the CD, between it and the opening. Forcing these arms and/or forcing the CD off the spindle will probably damage the drive, so I would NOT recommend this method. If worst comes to worst and the drive won't eject, the best way is to take the top off of the optical drive, and pop the CD off the spindle. (Just like you would a tray-loading drive) As for how to determine if it has an Airport card, it should be easy; Just turn the little knob and open the RAM/Airport access panel. If there's an Airport card, you'll see it; if not, you won't. :) Watch the youtube video, although it could be more of the spindle retracting and the 'pusher' not pushing the disc out... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac Rescue Newbie
Recently I was handed an iMac that needed a home. It took me a while to find a power cord, but it started on the first try. It seems to have gone unused since '06. But even with a dirty face it was too cute tor the lady to throw out and the little guy/gal (?) runs pretty snappy for 350 MHz. I guess you call it a blueberry. Sort of a Bondi blue back with a pearly striped front. slot load of course. ( I just found out it is a Blueberry as I stuck in a DVD which it wont spit out! I could have looked at ASP, but it had DVD player on the Apple menu!)) It is running 9.2 and I find no OS X volume. Me ? I have been on the PCI list since '99 and the G list since about '05. I'm also on several other LEM lists. I am semi retired but interested in video and web media production and the applications that support those efforts. I also speak some PC but come from an Amiga background so I hold some strong opinions there. Anyway I'll be looking to the swap list to max out this little tyke's memory lobe. Maybe a bigger internal drive too. If anyone can tell me how to coax it to spit up the DVD for a test with a CD I would appreciate it. It keeps cycling so there is never an icon and the other methods don't work. I find no eject pinhole either. What do I do, tickle it under the chin ? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Rescue Newbie
If anyone can tell me how to coax it to spit up the DVD for a test with a CD I would appreciate it. It keeps cycling so there is never an icon and the other methods don't work. I find no eject pinhole either. What do I do, tickle it under the chin ? Try booting with the Option key held down, and select the eject button when you get that fancy boot list. I've never had one that doesn't spit the disk back out (sometimes it's really sick, and barfs it out onto my floor though) As for a HDD, you'll be needing an IDE drive, you can scavange one out of literally any PC pre-vista, and it'll work. As for memory, any PC that's pre-2002 will usually have what you're looking for, but them iMacs are so dang picky when it comes to RAM that it likes... I went through half my box before I found a pair of 256mb sticks to use (and that's one big box of stuff too) I've had the most trouble with mine having problems forgetting the date, but I just recovered a still good battery from my rusty (literally) trusty PM6100, so all I need is an excuse to open it. Just out of curiousioty, does it happen to have an AirPort card and adapter? I am starting to contemplate getting one because my current solution isn't working one bit. -Pizzaboy192 (Christian Wacker) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
