Re: [imp] preview of attached files in imp
Quoting francis picabia fpica...@gmail.com: So you can understand better how the user sees this, I include the way it is reported to our helpdesk... I have tried several times to place a short attachment onto an e-mail that I am trying to send. Each time a message comes back to me indicating that the attachment is uploaded and a second one is received that the is a problem with the attachment What error? michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
Re: [imp] preview of attached files in imp
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Michael M Slusarz slus...@horde.org wrote: Quoting francis picabia fpica...@gmail.com: So you can understand better how the user sees this, I include the way it is reported to our helpdesk... I have tried several times to place a short attachment onto an e-mail that I am trying to send. Each time a message comes back to me indicating that the attachment is uploaded and a second one is received that the is a problem with the attachment What error? A fatal error has occurred Could not display attachment data. 1. IMP_Compose_View-composeAttachPreview() /usr/local/www/horde/imp/view.php:44 Details The full error message is logged in Horde's log file, and is shown below only to administrators. Non-administrative users will not see error details. IMP_Exception Object ( [details] = [logged] = 1 [_logLevel:protected] = 0 [message:protected] = Could not display attachment data. [string:Exception:private] = [code:protected] = 0 [file:protected] = /usr/local/www/horde/imp/lib/Compose/View.php [line:protected] = 54 [trace:Exception:private] = Array ( [0] = Array ( [file] = /usr/local/www/horde/imp/view.php [line] = 44 [function] = composeAttachPreview [class] = IMP_Compose_View [type] = - [args] = Array ( [0] = 1 [1] = 1 [2] = ) ) ) [previous:Exception:private] = ) This error can be reproduced by attaching a word doc in compose, and clicking on the named attachment in the compose window after. It is out of the box behavior. I'm not trying to make it preview in the browser. We just want a session where users will be confident uploading the attachment has worked. -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
[imp] Activesync email sent from address
Hello, I'm testing out ActiveSync and things seem to be working more or less. One thing that I have noticed is when I send an email from my device, the person getting the email shows that the from name is my userid. When I send an email from imp, the from is displayed as what I have configured for my default identity. Is there something I need to do with my ActiveSync settings to get it to show something other than my userid, or is what how things work? Thank you, John -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
[imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
Hello again, Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail client to maintain focus while in the preview window. People don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view, and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys to scroll through their message. Why? Yeah, because that's what outlook can do. I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why this isn't possible with horde. Thanks, John -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
Re: [imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Hello again, Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail client to maintain focus while in the preview window. People don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view, and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys to scroll through their message. Why? Yeah, because that's what outlook can do. I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why this isn't possible with horde. Because browser UI elements != OS UI elements. We make use of IFRAMEs (for HTML messages) to segregate potentially dangerous external data (message content) from the rest of the page. IFRAMEs are handled differently by each browser. An IFRAME, by default, has no connection/contact to the parent page. So if you do something in the IFRAME, this has NO EFFECT on the rest of the page. Essentially, you can think of the message preview as a completely separate application than IMP. We *try* to capture clicks/keypresses inside of the IFRAME, but this is not always possible (e.g. browser issues; for security reasons we may not be able to precisely simulate that click in the parent page). michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
Re: [imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
Quoting Michael M Slusarz slus...@horde.org: Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Hello again, Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail client to maintain focus while in the preview window. People don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view, and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys to scroll through their message. Why? Yeah, because that's what outlook can do. I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why this isn't possible with horde. Because browser UI elements != OS UI elements. We make use of IFRAMEs (for HTML messages) to segregate potentially dangerous external data (message content) from the rest of the page. IFRAMEs are handled differently by each browser. An IFRAME, by default, has no connection/contact to the parent page. So if you do something in the IFRAME, this has NO EFFECT on the rest of the page. Essentially, you can think of the message preview as a completely separate application than IMP. We *try* to capture clicks/keypresses inside of the IFRAME, but this is not always possible (e.g. browser issues; for security reasons we may not be able to precisely simulate that click in the parent page). michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] Hi Michael, Yes, OK, thank you for explaining, but when using Outlook Web Access, you don't have this issue, no matter if you are using a MAC, or Windows PC. Once you change the focus to the preview pane, you are able to scroll with the mouse, or by using the keyboard keys. Is this still a matter of UI elements != OS UI elements, or is MS using some other method than what horde uses or can use? Thanks again, John -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
Re: [imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Quoting Michael M Slusarz slus...@horde.org: Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Hello again, Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail client to maintain focus while in the preview window. People don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view, and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys to scroll through their message. Why? Yeah, because that's what outlook can do. I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why this isn't possible with horde. Because browser UI elements != OS UI elements. We make use of IFRAMEs (for HTML messages) to segregate potentially dangerous external data (message content) from the rest of the page. IFRAMEs are handled differently by each browser. An IFRAME, by default, has no connection/contact to the parent page. So if you do something in the IFRAME, this has NO EFFECT on the rest of the page. Essentially, you can think of the message preview as a completely separate application than IMP. We *try* to capture clicks/keypresses inside of the IFRAME, but this is not always possible (e.g. browser issues; for security reasons we may not be able to precisely simulate that click in the parent page). michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] Hi Michael, Yes, OK, thank you for explaining, but when using Outlook Web Access, you don't have this issue, no matter if you are using a MAC, or Windows PC. Once you change the focus to the preview pane, you are able to scroll with the mouse, or by using the keyboard keys. Is this still a matter of UI elements != OS UI elements, or is MS using some other method than what horde uses or can use? Microsoft probably has 20 full-time engineers working on the Outlook Web Access team. That's the difference. michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
Re: [imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Quoting Michael M Slusarz slus...@horde.org: Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Hello again, Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail client to maintain focus while in the preview window. People don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view, and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys to scroll through their message. Why? Yeah, because that's what outlook can do. I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why this isn't possible with horde. Because browser UI elements != OS UI elements. We make use of IFRAMEs (for HTML messages) to segregate potentially dangerous external data (message content) from the rest of the page. IFRAMEs are handled differently by each browser. An IFRAME, by default, has no connection/contact to the parent page. So if you do something in the IFRAME, this has NO EFFECT on the rest of the page. Essentially, you can think of the message preview as a completely separate application than IMP. We *try* to capture clicks/keypresses inside of the IFRAME, but this is not always possible (e.g. browser issues; for security reasons we may not be able to precisely simulate that click in the parent page). michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] Hi Michael, Yes, OK, thank you for explaining, but when using Outlook Web Access, you don't have this issue, no matter if you are using a MAC, or Windows PC. Once you change the focus to the preview pane, you are able to scroll with the mouse, or by using the keyboard keys And I'm also confused because you can scroll with the mouse and the keyboard keys using IMP. Have been able to forever. michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
Re: [imp] preview of attached files in imp
Quoting francis picabia fpica...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Michael M Slusarz slus...@horde.org wrote: Quoting francis picabia fpica...@gmail.com: So you can understand better how the user sees this, I include the way it is reported to our helpdesk... I have tried several times to place a short attachment onto an e-mail that I am trying to send. Each time a message comes back to me indicating that the attachment is uploaded and a second one is received that the is a problem with the attachment What error? A fatal error has occurred Could not display attachment data. 1. IMP_Compose_View-composeAttachPreview() /usr/local/www/horde/imp/view.php:44 The only way that I'm aware of to get this is if you don't have a backend setup to save attachment data. This is a panic error. There is no way you should be able to get to this in normal activity. I have no problems attaching a word doc and then clicking on the link after attaching. michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
Re: [imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
Quoting Michael M Slusarz slus...@horde.org: Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Quoting Michael M Slusarz slus...@horde.org: Quoting John H. Bennett III benne...@thebennetthome.com: Hello again, Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail client to maintain focus while in the preview window. People don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view, and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys to scroll through their message. Why? Yeah, because that's what outlook can do. I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why this isn't possible with horde. Because browser UI elements != OS UI elements. We make use of IFRAMEs (for HTML messages) to segregate potentially dangerous external data (message content) from the rest of the page. IFRAMEs are handled differently by each browser. An IFRAME, by default, has no connection/contact to the parent page. So if you do something in the IFRAME, this has NO EFFECT on the rest of the page. Essentially, you can think of the message preview as a completely separate application than IMP. We *try* to capture clicks/keypresses inside of the IFRAME, but this is not always possible (e.g. browser issues; for security reasons we may not be able to precisely simulate that click in the parent page). michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] Hi Michael, Yes, OK, thank you for explaining, but when using Outlook Web Access, you don't have this issue, no matter if you are using a MAC, or Windows PC. Once you change the focus to the preview pane, you are able to scroll with the mouse, or by using the keyboard keys And I'm also confused because you can scroll with the mouse and the keyboard keys using IMP. Have been able to forever. michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] Not in the preview window. If you are viewing a message in the preview window, and click within the preview window area, then hit the down arrow key, you are moved to the next email message. Hitting the page down key, you are taken to the last email shown on your screen. If you hit end, then you are taken to your last email. You can, or at least I can, only move within the preview window, by cicking on the scroll bar. Of course, double-clicking on the message and having that as the main focus, enables you to scroll by any method. I have this behavior with Chrome and IE-11, and on a MAC using Safari. Please know that I am only asking to try to better explain to people how to better use the horde webmail system versus what most used to use in Outlook. John -- imp mailing list Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ To unsubscribe, mail: imp-unsubscr...@lists.horde.org
