[efloraofindia:74663] Re: Identification no 210711sn1

2011-07-20 Thread Smilax004
Casearia ovata,I think.

According to The plant list (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/
tro-100346097) this is now a synonym of Guidonia ovata (Lam.)Baill of
Salicaceae family.

Even genus Flacourtia is in Salicaceae now. No Flacourtiaceae is
listed there!?
http://www.theplantlist.org/browse/A/


Regards,
Giby





On Jul 21, 10:41 am, Satish Nikam  wrote:
> Dear All,
>              Posting query again as I am not very sure.Earlier identified as 
> Casearia ovata.Taken at Mulsi,Pune in May 11.Kindly validate.
> thanks
> regards
> satish nikam
> more pics atwww.flickr.com/photos/wwwssncomphotos
>
>  IMG_5463-r.jpg
> 39KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5464-r.jpg
> 67KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5480-r.JPG
> 72KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5481-r.jpg
> 51KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5509-r.jpg
> 46KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74661] Re: Identification no 210711sn1

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Casearia ovata for me.  Beautiful pictures of the fruits and leaves.

On Jul 21, 10:41 am, Satish Nikam  wrote:
> Dear All,
>              Posting query again as I am not very sure.Earlier identified as 
> Casearia ovata.Taken at Mulsi,Pune in May 11.Kindly validate.
> thanks
> regards
> satish nikam
> more pics atwww.flickr.com/photos/wwwssncomphotos
>
>  IMG_5463-r.jpg
> 39KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5464-r.jpg
> 67KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5480-r.JPG
> 72KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5481-r.jpg
> 51KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_5509-r.jpg
> 46KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:74660] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE

2011-07-20 Thread Anand Kumar Bhatt
Ketaki is kevada. The flower is used for distilling kevda water which is a
substitute of Rose water.
I saw a large number growing wild in coastal area of Orissa.
ak

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Madhuri Pejaver wrote:

> forgot to mention something nonbotany but related to ketaki.
> A typical fair colour of body skin is called 'Ketakivarna'.
> thank you
> madhuri
>
> --- On Thu, 21/7/11, formpeja...@yahoo.com  wrote:
>
> > From: formpeja...@yahoo.com 
> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:74653] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE
> > To: "Ushadi micromini" , "Efloraindia" <
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, 21 July, 2011, 9:33 AM
> > In Marathi other name Kevada. It is
> > famous for the cobra residing in the thicket of plant
> > growth.
> > The inflorescence made up of small/miniature flowers.
> > (Compound receme?)
> > It is covered by yellow colour bract(??), which actually
> > has great fragrance.
> > This bract is offered to Lord Ganesha. Sold in Mumbai
> > market at the rate of rs 40 to 100 per bract in Ganesh
> > festivel.
> > Kevada attar (permume) is very famous.
> > Pandanus is a typical example of multiple root cap.
> > In Thane on Godbandar road in my child hood acers and acres
> > of land had pandanus plants as this is a marshy area. Now
> > hardly some 50 to 100 plants are seen on road side, as
> > entire area is under costruction (distruction) stage.
> > Madhuri
> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ushadi micromini 
> > Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:49:40
> > To: efloraofindia
> > Subject: [efloraofindia:74646] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF
> > NATURE
> >
> > what are/is the indian name besides ketaki that colonel
> > sarkar
> > gave us...
> > i want to know beyond that...like local names?
> > any body?
> > usha di
> > ===
> >
> > On Jul 20, 9:59 pm, mchunkat 
> > wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > > As usual things are a bit more complicated. This is
> > what I found on
> > > the net.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Short Communication
> > > Collection, characterization and olfactory evaluation
> > of Pandanus
> > > species in Southern India
> > > Rahul L. Zanana1 and Altafhusain B. Nadafa1 c1
> > > a1 Department of Botany, University of Pune, Pune
> > 411007, India
> > > Abstract
> > > A detailed survey along the coastal regions of
> > Southern India revealed
> > > the occurrence of seven Pandanus species, viz. P.
> > kaida Kurz., P.
> > > odorifer (Forssk.) Kuntz., P. canaranus Warb., P.
> > furcatus Roxb., P.
> > > thwaitesii Mart., P. foetidus Roxb and a new species
> > P. palakkadensis
> > > Nadaf, Zanan & Wakte. The fragrance of staminate
> > inflorescences of
> > > these species was compared with the fragrance of
> > commercial staminate
> > > inflorescences of P. odorifer. P. thwaitesii, P. kaida
> > and P.
> > > palakkadensis recorded comparable fragrance with that
> > of P. odorifer.
> > > The study reveals the fragrance potential of these
> > species, which
> > > could be exploited commercially for extraction of
> > essential oil.
> > > (Received February 24 2011)
> > > (Accepted May 04 2011)
> > > ---
> > > Could somebody throw more light on this.. Thanks.
> > > Mohan Chunkath
> > >
> > > On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Col Bimal Sarkar 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Friend,
> > > >
> > Valmiki mentioned about Ketak or Ketaki in his Ramayan.It is
> > known as SCREW-PINE in English.Scientifically it is known as
> > Pandanus odoratissimus.Chakravarti S Venkatesh gives some
> > interesting input about the plant.
> > > >  "I t appears that the ancient
> > Hindus,like the Babylonians,had some inkling of the presence
> > of sex in plants.For example,the male plants of the
> > Screwpine were called Ketaki viphala or Dhulipushpika,the
> > female as Svarna Ketaki,and the male and female together as
> > Ketakidvayam meaning a pair of Ketakis."
> > > >  Attaching an image of KETAKI.
> > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
> > > > Mobile: 9434194942
> > >
> > > >  Ketak.jpg
> > > > 124KViewDownload
> >
>



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[efloraofindia:74659] Mucuna

2011-07-20 Thread Alok Goyal
Hallo all

i am looking for *Mucuna pruriens. *can anyone please guide me as to where i
can find this thing growing in abundance in wild state so i can collect it
in bulk


Alok


Re: [efloraofindia:74658] Re: Flora of Panipat- Gomphrena haageana from a nursery in Panipat

2011-07-20 Thread Pankaj Kumar
I will give you another example.
Lets say Amit is Sumit's father. So if I say,
Amit's Sumit
or
Sumit is as intelligent as Amit.

then it does make a difference as first sentence is very casual but
second sentence is a praise. Similarly if you say "Hooker's Iris" and
then "Iris as handsome as Hooker", then there is a praise in second.
Botanically it doesnt change anything, but in grammar they are
different. :))

Regards
Pankaj

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Thanks Pankaj ji
> I never thought use of -ii or -i does lower the importance of a person. I
> thought it is personal choice of author to use the name as genitive
> (possessive) form (-hookeri) or adjective (-hookeriana). I can't imagine
> Iris of Hooker (Iris hookeri) is less decorative than Hooker Iris (Iris
> hookeriana).
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>>
>> According to me the issue is different sir.
>>
>> Haagei could be one option when the word ends in a vowel. Orther such
>> examples are 'hegdei', 'maderoi' and 'rosei'
>>
>> When Haagei is there it means Haage's Gomphrena, which in turn can be
>> ideally or wrongly perceived as the plant was originally collected by
>> Haage but described by someone else. Here 'Haage' is used as a 'Noun'.
>>
>> Haageana means Haagean Gomphrena, which could mean, as beautiful as
>> Haage. Here 'Haage' is used as an 'Adjective'. Some other examples
>> are, 'weddelliana', 'congniauxiana' and 'wallichiana'.
>>
>> It is then followed by 'a' or 'us' or 'um', to denote the gender.
>>
>> In first case, the importance to the person is lessened but in second
>> case you are kind of admiring the person by giving a name after him.
>>
>> Regards
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
>> wrote:
>> > Since the name ends in a vowel, -an is added after the person name
>> > instead
>> > of ian (for names ending in consonant), and then the usual gender ending
>> > -a,
>> > -um or -us as the case may be.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> > Retired  Associate Professor
>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Balkar Arya 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Pankaj Ji for details
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> That is very peculiar species name and so I just tried to look for
>> >>> information why the plant has been named this way.
>> >>> Actually the species name is to commemorate J.N. Haage (1926-78), a
>> >>> German plant collector and seedsman.
>> >>> Regards
>> >>> Pankaj
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 20, 6:00 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>> >>> > Dear All
>> >>> > Gomphrena haageana
>> >>> > A Garden Annual Herb shot from a nursery in Panipat
>> >>> > pls validate
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > Regards
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Dr Balkar Singh
>> >>> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> >>> > Arya P G College, Panipat
>> >>> > Haryana-132103
>> >>> > 09416262964
>> >>> >
>> >>> >  Gomphrena haageana (1).JPG
>> >>> > 330KViewDownload
>> >>> >
>> >>> >  Gomphrena haageana (3).JPG
>> >>> > 188KViewDownload
>> >>> >
>> >>> >  Gomphrena haageana (4).JPG
>> >>> > 210KViewDownload
>> >>> >
>> >>> >  Gomphrena haageanaSm.JPG
>> >>> > 494KViewDownload
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Dr Balkar Singh
>> >> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> >> Arya P G College, Panipat
>> >> Haryana-132103
>> >> 09416262964
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ***
>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>>
>>
>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
>> Research Associate
>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
>> Department of Habitat Ecology
>> Wildlife Institute of India
>> Post Box # 18
>> Dehradun - 248001, India
>
>
>
>



-- 
***
"TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"


Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India


Re: [efloraofindia:74656] Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Yazdy Palia
welcome Sharada Ji. Am just a farmer.
Regards
Yazdy Palia.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Sharada Balasubramanian
 wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after a
> 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
> and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
> work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
> do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
> for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
> for newspapers on environment.
> I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
> lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
> Thank you!
> Sharada
>
> --
>
> www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> wildlifemusings.wordpress.com
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74655] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE

2011-07-20 Thread Madhuri Pejaver
forgot to mention something nonbotany but related to ketaki.
A typical fair colour of body skin is called 'Ketakivarna'.
thank you
madhuri

--- On Thu, 21/7/11, formpeja...@yahoo.com  wrote:

> From: formpeja...@yahoo.com 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:74653] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE
> To: "Ushadi micromini" , "Efloraindia" 
> 
> Date: Thursday, 21 July, 2011, 9:33 AM
> In Marathi other name Kevada. It is
> famous for the cobra residing in the thicket of plant
> growth.
> The inflorescence made up of small/miniature flowers.
> (Compound receme?)
> It is covered by yellow colour bract(??), which actually
> has great fragrance.
> This bract is offered to Lord Ganesha. Sold in Mumbai
> market at the rate of rs 40 to 100 per bract in Ganesh
> festivel.
> Kevada attar (permume) is very famous.
> Pandanus is a typical example of multiple root cap.
> In Thane on Godbandar road in my child hood acers and acres
> of land had pandanus plants as this is a marshy area. Now
> hardly some 50 to 100 plants are seen on road side, as
> entire area is under costruction (distruction) stage.
> Madhuri 
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ushadi micromini 
> Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:49:40 
> To: efloraofindia
> Subject: [efloraofindia:74646] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF
> NATURE
> 
> what are/is the indian name besides ketaki that colonel
> sarkar
> gave us...
> i want to know beyond that...like local names?
> any body?
> usha di
> ===
> 
> On Jul 20, 9:59 pm, mchunkat 
> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > As usual things are a bit more complicated. This is
> what I found on
> > the net.
> >
> > ---
> > Short Communication
> > Collection, characterization and olfactory evaluation
> of Pandanus
> > species in Southern India
> > Rahul L. Zanana1 and Altafhusain B. Nadafa1 c1
> > a1 Department of Botany, University of Pune, Pune
> 411007, India
> > Abstract
> > A detailed survey along the coastal regions of
> Southern India revealed
> > the occurrence of seven Pandanus species, viz. P.
> kaida Kurz., P.
> > odorifer (Forssk.) Kuntz., P. canaranus Warb., P.
> furcatus Roxb., P.
> > thwaitesii Mart., P. foetidus Roxb and a new species
> P. palakkadensis
> > Nadaf, Zanan & Wakte. The fragrance of staminate
> inflorescences of
> > these species was compared with the fragrance of
> commercial staminate
> > inflorescences of P. odorifer. P. thwaitesii, P. kaida
> and P.
> > palakkadensis recorded comparable fragrance with that
> of P. odorifer.
> > The study reveals the fragrance potential of these
> species, which
> > could be exploited commercially for extraction of
> essential oil.
> > (Received February 24 2011)
> > (Accepted May 04 2011)
> > ---
> > Could somebody throw more light on this.. Thanks.
> > Mohan Chunkath
> >
> > On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Col Bimal Sarkar 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Friend,
> > >   
> Valmiki mentioned about Ketak or Ketaki in his Ramayan.It is
> known as SCREW-PINE in English.Scientifically it is known as
> Pandanus odoratissimus.Chakravarti S Venkatesh gives some
> interesting input about the plant.
> > >  "I t appears that the ancient
> Hindus,like the Babylonians,had some inkling of the presence
> of sex in plants.For example,the male plants of the
> Screwpine were called Ketaki viphala or Dhulipushpika,the
> female as Svarna Ketaki,and the male and female together as
> Ketakidvayam meaning a pair of Ketakis."
> > >  Attaching an image of KETAKI.
> >
> > > Regards
> > > Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
> > > Mobile: 9434194942
> >
> > >  Ketak.jpg
> > > 124KViewDownload
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74653] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE

2011-07-20 Thread formpejaver
In Marathi other name Kevada. It is famous for the cobra residing in the 
thicket of plant growth.
The inflorescence made up of small/miniature flowers. (Compound receme?)
It is covered by yellow colour bract(??), which actually has great fragrance.
This bract is offered to Lord Ganesha. Sold in Mumbai market at the rate of rs 
40 to 100 per bract in Ganesh festivel.
Kevada attar (permume) is very famous.
Pandanus is a typical example of multiple root cap.
In Thane on Godbandar road in my child hood acers and acres of land had 
pandanus plants as this is a marshy area. Now hardly some 50 to 100 plants are 
seen on road side, as entire area is under costruction (distruction) stage.
Madhuri 
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: Ushadi micromini 
Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:49:40 
To: efloraofindia
Subject: [efloraofindia:74646] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE

what are/is the indian name besides ketaki that colonel sarkar
gave us...
i want to know beyond that...like local names?
any body?
usha di
===

On Jul 20, 9:59 pm, mchunkat  wrote:
> Dear All,
> As usual things are a bit more complicated. This is what I found on
> the net.
>
> ---
> Short Communication
> Collection, characterization and olfactory evaluation of Pandanus
> species in Southern India
> Rahul L. Zanana1 and Altafhusain B. Nadafa1 c1
> a1 Department of Botany, University of Pune, Pune 411007, India
> Abstract
> A detailed survey along the coastal regions of Southern India revealed
> the occurrence of seven Pandanus species, viz. P. kaida Kurz., P.
> odorifer (Forssk.) Kuntz., P. canaranus Warb., P. furcatus Roxb., P.
> thwaitesii Mart., P. foetidus Roxb and a new species P. palakkadensis
> Nadaf, Zanan & Wakte. The fragrance of staminate inflorescences of
> these species was compared with the fragrance of commercial staminate
> inflorescences of P. odorifer. P. thwaitesii, P. kaida and P.
> palakkadensis recorded comparable fragrance with that of P. odorifer.
> The study reveals the fragrance potential of these species, which
> could be exploited commercially for extraction of essential oil.
> (Received February 24 2011)
> (Accepted May 04 2011)
> ---
> Could somebody throw more light on this.. Thanks.
> Mohan Chunkath
>
> On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Col Bimal Sarkar  wrote:
>
> > Dear Friend,
> >    Valmiki mentioned about Ketak or Ketaki in his 
> > Ramayan.It is known as SCREW-PINE in English.Scientifically it is known as 
> > Pandanus odoratissimus.Chakravarti S Venkatesh gives some interesting input 
> > about the plant.
> >  "I t appears that the ancient Hindus,like the Babylonians,had some 
> > inkling of the presence of sex in plants.For example,the male plants of the 
> > Screwpine were called Ketaki viphala or Dhulipushpika,the female as Svarna 
> > Ketaki,and the male and female together as Ketakidvayam meaning a pair of 
> > Ketakis."
> >  Attaching an image of KETAKI.
>
> > Regards
> > Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
> > Mobile: 9434194942
>
> >  Ketak.jpg
> > 124KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74651] Re: pavetta indica

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Attn: H S ji:   What are the differences between P. i and P.c.
Please educate the group, since you are a taxonomist by profession, as
I understand.


On Jul 20, 6:45 pm, H S  wrote:
> There is a species Pavetta concanensis,,, pls also check with that..
>
> regards,
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Mohina Macker wrote:
>
> > pavetta indica i hope
>
> > it was growing wild along a road in goa
> > in complete profusion of flowers
>
> > regards
> > mohina macker
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone


[efloraofindia:74650] Re: Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Well said. Excellent suggestion by Dr.Pankaj.


On Jul 20, 7:56 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> Dear Sharada mam,
> Firstly thanks a lot for joining our group. Now that I know that you
> are a writer/journalist, I am tempted to ask you for a favour. This is
> my personal view so please dont misunderstand it.
> This efloraofindia is the first and only one of its kind that exists
> in India where members are from varied background but share
> information on plant diversity. Me sitting on my chair in the
> foothills of Himalaya at Wildlife Institute of India, with access to
> internet can know what plants are flowering in South India in the
> western Ghats and at the same time what is in flowering in the north
> east Himalaya. Members have been selflessly sharing the information
> and expertise to each and every posts. This is really getting into a
> form of an online organisation. So, why dont you write an article
> about it and let people know about our efforts. Let people know how a
> common man from various background can get involved in scientific
> information sharing by making best use of resources available for
> free. They just need to devote some time out of their usual work. This
> will help us gain more members as well a expertise and ultimately a
> better database on indian plants.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
> On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Ushadi micromini 
> wrote:
>
> > Welcome, Sharada ji...
> > there are so many issues that need raising awareness about,
> > that a trained journalist who takes an active interest in the issue
> > and writes/ expresses herself well is very welcome...
>
> > Usha di
> > =
>
> > On Jul 20, 7:08 pm, formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > Welcome to the group. We also have a subgroup of storytellors hidden 
> > > among the scientists.
> > > So now we have a real story teller.
> > > Welcome by the story teller group too
> > > Madhuri
> > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sharada Balasubramanian 
>
> > > Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:39:16
> > > To: 
> > > Subject: [efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!
>
> > > Hello everyone,
>
> > > I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after 
> > > a
> > > 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> > > specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
> > > and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
> > > work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what 
> > > they
> > > do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently 
> > > write
> > > for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally 
> > > write
> > > for newspapers on environment.
>
> > > I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
> > > lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
>
> > > Thank you!
>
> > > Sharada
>
> > > --
>
> > >www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> > > wildlifemusings.wordpress.com


[efloraofindia:74649] Re: identification of an ornamental shrub

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Yes.  Ushaji is correct. Thread should not be disturbed. We lose the
link!

On Jul 20, 11:06 am, arun sharma  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Thanks for the ID
>
> Arun Sharma


[efloraofindia:74648] Re: Evolvulus nummularius

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Nice reporting and uploading of different poses of the plant!

On Jul 20, 9:29 pm, shivaprakash adavanne  wrote:
> hello,
>
> Please find attached photos of Evolvulus nummularius, idd by Sri
> Sampathkumar K(August, 2009), sighted again on 17.07.2011 in HD Kote area,
> Karnataka.
>
> Evolvulus nummularius(Convolvulaceae)
>
>    - Introduced
>    - Prostrate herb
>    - Rooting at nodes
>    - Flower tubular-campanulate
>    - Leaves- quadrate to suborbicular
>
> Regards
> a.shivaprakash
>
>  Evoluvs nummularius.JPG
> 236KViewDownload
>
>  Evoluvs nummularius (1).JPG
> 104KViewDownload
>
>  Evoluvs nummularius (2).JPG
> 217KViewDownload
>
>  Evoluvs nummularius (3).JPG
> 303KViewDownload
>
>  Evoluvs nummularius (4).JPG
> 257KViewDownload
>
>  Evoluvs nummularius (5).JPG
> 376KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74647] Re: Garden flowers from Dalhousie al200711

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Looks like Lonicera japonica,

On Jul 20, 10:16 pm, Alok Mahendroo  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> Some garden plants from Dalhousie for id..
>
> Location Dalhousie
> Altitude 2100 mts
> Habit Herb
> Habitat Garden/Urban
>
> Thanks
> Alok
> --
> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
>
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.comwww.forwildlife.wordpress.comhttp://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new...
>
>  DSCN0262.jpg
> 184KViewDownload
>
>  DSCN0263.jpg
> 119KViewDownload
>
>  DSCN0265.jpg
> 190KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74646] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE

2011-07-20 Thread Ushadi micromini
what are/is the indian name besides ketaki that colonel sarkar
gave us...
i want to know beyond that...like local names?
any body?
usha di
===

On Jul 20, 9:59 pm, mchunkat  wrote:
> Dear All,
> As usual things are a bit more complicated. This is what I found on
> the net.
>
> ---
> Short Communication
> Collection, characterization and olfactory evaluation of Pandanus
> species in Southern India
> Rahul L. Zanana1 and Altafhusain B. Nadafa1 c1
> a1 Department of Botany, University of Pune, Pune 411007, India
> Abstract
> A detailed survey along the coastal regions of Southern India revealed
> the occurrence of seven Pandanus species, viz. P. kaida Kurz., P.
> odorifer (Forssk.) Kuntz., P. canaranus Warb., P. furcatus Roxb., P.
> thwaitesii Mart., P. foetidus Roxb and a new species P. palakkadensis
> Nadaf, Zanan & Wakte. The fragrance of staminate inflorescences of
> these species was compared with the fragrance of commercial staminate
> inflorescences of P. odorifer. P. thwaitesii, P. kaida and P.
> palakkadensis recorded comparable fragrance with that of P. odorifer.
> The study reveals the fragrance potential of these species, which
> could be exploited commercially for extraction of essential oil.
> (Received February 24 2011)
> (Accepted May 04 2011)
> ---
> Could somebody throw more light on this.. Thanks.
> Mohan Chunkath
>
> On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Col Bimal Sarkar  wrote:
>
> > Dear Friend,
> >    Valmiki mentioned about Ketak or Ketaki in his 
> > Ramayan.It is known as SCREW-PINE in English.Scientifically it is known as 
> > Pandanus odoratissimus.Chakravarti S Venkatesh gives some interesting input 
> > about the plant.
> >  "I t appears that the ancient Hindus,like the Babylonians,had some 
> > inkling of the presence of sex in plants.For example,the male plants of the 
> > Screwpine were called Ketaki viphala or Dhulipushpika,the female as Svarna 
> > Ketaki,and the male and female together as Ketakidvayam meaning a pair of 
> > Ketakis."
> >  Attaching an image of KETAKI.
>
> > Regards
> > Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
> > Mobile: 9434194942
>
> >  Ketak.jpg
> > 124KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74645] Re: More Garden Plants from Dalhousie al200711a

2011-07-20 Thread Ushadi micromini
ya, but which iris wish could see the petals clearly... anantomy
not very clear.
usha di
===

On Jul 20, 10:18 pm, Alok Mahendroo  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> Another Plant.. a favourite among the villagers...
>
> Location Dalhousie
> Altitude 2100 mts
> Habit Herb
> Habitat Garden
>
> regards
> Alok
> --
> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
>
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.comwww.forwildlife.wordpress.comhttp://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new...
>
>  DSCN8735.jpg
> 219KViewDownload
>
>  DSCN8737.jpg
> 234KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:74644] Re: Flora of Panipat- Gomphrena haageana from a nursery in Panipat

2011-07-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks Pankaj ji
I never thought use of -ii or -i does lower the importance of a person. I
thought it is personal choice of author to use the name as genitive
(possessive) form (-hookeri) or adjective (-hookeriana). I can't imagine
Iris of Hooker (Iris hookeri) is less decorative than Hooker Iris (Iris
hookeriana).


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Pankaj Kumar wrote:

> According to me the issue is different sir.
>
> Haagei could be one option when the word ends in a vowel. Orther such
> examples are 'hegdei', 'maderoi' and 'rosei'
>
> When Haagei is there it means Haage's Gomphrena, which in turn can be
> ideally or wrongly perceived as the plant was originally collected by
> Haage but described by someone else. Here 'Haage' is used as a 'Noun'.
>
> Haageana means Haagean Gomphrena, which could mean, as beautiful as
> Haage. Here 'Haage' is used as an 'Adjective'. Some other examples
> are, 'weddelliana', 'congniauxiana' and 'wallichiana'.
>
> It is then followed by 'a' or 'us' or 'um', to denote the gender.
>
> In first case, the importance to the person is lessened but in second
> case you are kind of admiring the person by giving a name after him.
>
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
> wrote:
> > Since the name ends in a vowel, -an is added after the person name
> instead
> > of ian (for names ending in consonant), and then the usual gender ending
> -a,
> > -um or -us as the case may be.
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Balkar Arya 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Pankaj Ji for details
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar <
> sahanipan...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That is very peculiar species name and so I just tried to look for
> >>> information why the plant has been named this way.
> >>> Actually the species name is to commemorate J.N. Haage (1926-78), a
> >>> German plant collector and seedsman.
> >>> Regards
> >>> Pankaj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 20, 6:00 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> >>> > Dear All
> >>> > Gomphrena haageana
> >>> > A Garden Annual Herb shot from a nursery in Panipat
> >>> > pls validate
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Regards
> >>> >
> >>> > Dr Balkar Singh
> >>> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >>> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> >>> > Haryana-132103
> >>> > 09416262964
> >>> >
> >>> >  Gomphrena haageana (1).JPG
> >>> > 330KViewDownload
> >>> >
> >>> >  Gomphrena haageana (3).JPG
> >>> > 188KViewDownload
> >>> >
> >>> >  Gomphrena haageana (4).JPG
> >>> > 210KViewDownload
> >>> >
> >>> >  Gomphrena haageanaSm.JPG
> >>> > 494KViewDownload
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Dr Balkar Singh
> >> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >> Haryana-132103
> >> 09416262964
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ***
> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>
>
> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> Research Associate
> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
> Department of Habitat Ecology
> Wildlife Institute of India
> Post Box # 18
> Dehradun - 248001, India
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74643] Flora of British India

2011-07-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Mohan ji
Such an effort has already been initiated through great efforts of Garg ji
and Dinesh ji. We need to fill in information. A key to Indian genera of
Solanaceae has already been created:

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/solanaceae

Similarly key to the species of genus Solanum:

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/solanaceae/solanum

and a few species pages

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/solanaceae/solanum/solanum-villosum

Truly it is a great effort, but all need to contribute for such a great
project


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:35 AM, mchunkat  wrote:

> Dear All,
> Are there any modern versions of the Flora and Fauna volumes? Has the
> BSI and ZSI put together anything similar? Was struck by it when
> looking at the recent Ziziphus thread where Dr. Balkar Singh had
> kindly appended a Flora of China pages for Ziziphus genus. Could the
> senior contributors give their reactions to starting a first ever user
> group generated comprehensive flora for the Indian region? Is this too
> ambitious a project? Was there any earlier thread on botanical terms
> and on how to use a dichotomous key? Thanks.
> Mohan Chunkath


[efloraofindia:74642] Flora of British India

2011-07-20 Thread mchunkat
Dear All,
Are there any modern versions of the Flora and Fauna volumes? Has the
BSI and ZSI put together anything similar? Was struck by it when
looking at the recent Ziziphus thread where Dr. Balkar Singh had
kindly appended a Flora of China pages for Ziziphus genus. Could the
senior contributors give their reactions to starting a first ever user
group generated comprehensive flora for the Indian region? Is this too
ambitious a project? Was there any earlier thread on botanical terms
and on how to use a dichotomous key? Thanks.
Mohan Chunkath


[efloraofindia:74640] Re: 19072011-BS-1 Shrub from Karnal for Id

2011-07-20 Thread Ushadi micromini
last picture (number 10, it would be) reminds me of what we called
tapeworm plant...
usha di
.

On Jul 19, 6:56 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Sending
> I think the attached snaps are Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia
> platyclados
> these were shot today from the Garden of My College this is in cemented pot
> planted by me 3 months back.
> Pls correct me if i am wrong
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> > Dear Tanay i mean plant posted by me and id given by Gurcharan Sir
> > i will share pics of both two today itself
>
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:18 AM, tanay bose  wrote:
>
> >> Hi Balkar ji ,
> >> Firstly note the typo in the spelling Homalocladium platycladum in the
> >> post by Sir Ji.
> >> Lastly I support the  Sir Ji comment of Muehlenbeckia platyclada (F.
> >> Muell.) Meisn.
> >> being the synonym of  Homalocladium platycladum, which is true according
> >> to GRIN.
> >> Thanks
> >> Tanay
> >> *
> >> *
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Balkar Arya wrote:
>
> >>> Sir I think *Muehlenbeckia* *platyclados is a different plant *
> >>> *i have both in my college will shot both today again and share*
>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Gurcharan Singh 
> >>> wrote:
>
>  I hope Homacladium platycladum (F. Muell.) L. H. Bailey (syn: *
>  Muehlenbeckia* *platyclados* (F.Muell.) Meisn..)
>
>  Family Polygonaceae
>
>  --
>  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>  Retired  Associate Professor
>  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>  On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Balkar Arya wrote:
>
> > Dear All
> > pls id this garden shrub shot from a Nursery in Karnal Haryna. Never
> > seen before
> > height was about 4 feet, flowers less than 1 cm. flowers were on
> > leaves?
> > Nurserymen could not provide any name of this plant
>
> > --
> > Regards
>
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards
>
> >>> Dr Balkar Singh
> >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >>> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >>> Haryana-132103
> >>> 09416262964
>
> >> --
> >> *Tanay Bose*
> >> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> >> Department of Botany.
> >> University of British Columbia .
> >> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> >> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> >> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> >> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> >> *Webpages:*
> >>http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> >>http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> >>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>
> > --
> > Regards
>
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (1).JPG
> 143KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (3).JPG
> 211KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (4).JPG
> 469KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (5).JPG
> 199KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (6).JPG
> 289KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (7).JPG
> 204KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (8).JPG
> 170KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados (9).JPG
> 173KViewDownload
>
>  Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados.JPG
> 490KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74638] Re: Flora of Haryana- Telosma cordata from the fields of Directorate of Wheat Research Karnal

2011-07-20 Thread Ushadi micromini

Wonderful effort
what we w'ont do for botany  ...

I was wondering if your cutting rooted and produced a houseplant for
you now???
usha di

===
On Jul 20, 4:02 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Thanks for confirmation
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39 PM, tanay bose  wrote:
> > Yes Balkar ji this is surely Telosma pallida.
> > Tanay
>
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>
> >> Thanks for confirmation Nayan Ji
>
> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Nayan Singh 
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> yes Balkar ji,
> >>> the flowers are also looking like Telosma pllida
> >>> thanks.
> >>> Nayan.
> >>> ...
> >>> N.S.Dungriyal IFS
> >>> Chief Conservator of Forests
> >>> and Field Director
> >>> Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad
> >>> M.P.
> >>> 09424792100
> >>>   *From:* Balkar Arya 
> >>> *To:* indiantreepix 
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 July 2011 8:33 PM
> >>> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:74525] Re: Flora of Haryana- Telosma cordata
> >>> from the fields of Directorate of Wheat Research Karnal
>
> >>>  it was not having fragrance so more chances are for  Telosma pallida
>
> >>> Sorry
> >>> also forgot to mention Family
> >>> Family- Apocynaceae
> >>> Old family- Asclepiadaceae
>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Balkar Arya wrote:
>
> >>> Dear All
> >>> Flora of Haryana- Telosma cordata from the fields of  Directorate of
> >>> Wheat Research Karnal
> >>> This climber was shot from the boundary of DWR fields. I waited for three
> >>> days to see its flowers but they were not there. Then i plucked a branch
> >>> with flowering bud and planted at my home . Flowers were there after a few
> >>> days.
> >>> I idfied this as Telosma cordata
> >>> pls validate
>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards
>
> >>> Dr Balkar Singh
> >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >>> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >>> Haryana-132103
> >>> 09416262964
>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards
>
> >>> Dr Balkar Singh
> >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >>> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >>> Haryana-132103
> >>> 09416262964
>
> >> --
> >> Regards
>
> >> Dr Balkar Singh
> >> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >> Haryana-132103
> >> 09416262964
>
> > --
> > *Tanay Bose*
> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > Department of Botany.
> > University of British Columbia .
> > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> > *Webpages:*
> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964


[efloraofindia:74637] Re: identification of an ornamental shrub

2011-07-20 Thread Ushadi micromini
what?
where's the link...

a new thread like this is useless

I think we should all try to keep things in order, so if one must
thank...
send the note of thanks in your own thread bottom as reply...
which will go automatically to the thread you started 

Usha di
==


On Jul 20, 11:06 am, arun sharma  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Thanks for the ID
>
> Arun Sharma


Re: [efloraofindia:74636] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread Balkar Arya
Here are some contrdictions in theplantlist and GRIN

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Thanks Balkar ji,
> But I meant *Ziziphus mauritiana* Lam. for which *Z. jujuba* (L.) Gaertn.
> is a synonym, as per GRIN.
> Please check http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?42285
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Balkar Arya wrote:
>
>> *Ziziphus* *jujuba* Mill is not synonym of  *Ziziphus mauritiana *as per
>> theplantlist.org
>> pls see http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2470699
>> To me this tree is BER
>> Ziziphus jujuba
>> During our Pre Commissioned Training in OTA Kamptee (Nagpur) its fruits
>> were the only thing available to us to eat during short breaks. More than 10
>> varities of BER were there. These were the main food of Monkeys and Langoors
>> residing there.
>> Perheps attached key from eflora.org may help
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Vijayasankar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is *Ziziphus mauritiana* (= *Z. jujuba*) of Rhamnaceae family. Called
>>> as 'ilandhai' இலந்தை in Tamil.
>>> The fruits are edible (but beware of large, stone-like seed :).
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>> University of Mississippi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Dinesh Valke wrote:
>>>
 ... please ignore my thought ... oversaw the first photo showing
 handsome shrub.
 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, H S  wrote:

> to me it look like Z. mauritiana
>
> regards,
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Smilax004 
> wrote:
>
>> May be Z. glabrata?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Giby
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 1:52 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
>> > Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.
>> >
>> > Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
>> > identification.
>> > Please go through the link given below and please try post by
>> > providing information in the given format @
>> >
>> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Giby
>> >
>> > On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
>> > > Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it
>> seems to be a
>> > > native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Maya Ramaswamy,
>> > > Bangalore
>> >
>> > >  IMG_4117.JPG
>> > > 882KViewDownload
>> >
>> > >  IMG_4097.JPG
>> > > 850KViewDownload
>> >
>> > >  IMG_4098.JPG
>> > > 1001KViewDownload
>>
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
> of stone
>
>

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Dr Balkar Singh
>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>> Haryana-132103
>> 09416262964
>>
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:74635] Evolvulus nummularius

2011-07-20 Thread Balkar Arya
Nice series of pics

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:59 PM, shivaprakash adavanne
wrote:

> hello,
>
> Please find attached photos of Evolvulus nummularius, idd by Sri
> Sampathkumar K(August, 2009), sighted again on 17.07.2011 in HD Kote area,
> Karnataka.
>
> Evolvulus nummularius(Convolvulaceae)
>
>- Introduced
>- Prostrate herb
>- Rooting at nodes
>- Flower tubular-campanulate
>- Leaves- quadrate to suborbicular
>
> Regards
> a.shivaprakash
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:74634] Garden flowers from Dalhousie al200711

2011-07-20 Thread Na Bha

Lonicera Sp. perhaps Japonica,
wait for experts say.

Am 20.07.2011 19:16, schrieb Alok Mahendroo:

Dear friends,
Some garden plants from Dalhousie for id..

Location Dalhousie
Altitude 2100 mts
Habit Herb
Habitat Garden/Urban

Thanks
Alok


Re: [efloraofindia:74633] More Garden Plants from Dalhousie al200711a

2011-07-20 Thread Na Bha

Looks like IRIS to me.
Let us wait for experts opinion.

Am 20.07.2011 19:18, schrieb Alok Mahendroo:

Dear friends,
Another Plant.. a favourite among the villagers...

Location Dalhousie
Altitude 2100 mts
Habit Herb
Habitat Garden

regards
Alok


Re: [efloraofindia:74632] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread Vijayasankar
Thanks Balkar ji,
But I meant *Ziziphus mauritiana* Lam. for which *Z. jujuba* (L.) Gaertn. is
a synonym, as per GRIN.
Please check http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?42285

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

> *Ziziphus* *jujuba* Mill is not synonym of  *Ziziphus mauritiana *as per
> theplantlist.org
> pls see http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2470699
> To me this tree is BER
> Ziziphus jujuba
> During our Pre Commissioned Training in OTA Kamptee (Nagpur) its fruits
> were the only thing available to us to eat during short breaks. More than 10
> varities of BER were there. These were the main food of Monkeys and Langoors
> residing there.
> Perheps attached key from eflora.org may help
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:
>
>> It is *Ziziphus mauritiana* (= *Z. jujuba*) of Rhamnaceae family. Called
>> as 'ilandhai' இலந்தை in Tamil.
>> The fruits are edible (but beware of large, stone-like seed :).
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Dinesh Valke wrote:
>>
>>> ... please ignore my thought ... oversaw the first photo showing handsome
>>> shrub.
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, H S  wrote:
>>>
 to me it look like Z. mauritiana

 regards,


 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Smilax004 wrote:

> May be Z. glabrata?
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
>
> On Jul 20, 1:52 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
> > Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.
> >
> > Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
> > identification.
> > Please go through the link given below and please try post by
> > providing information in the given format @
> >
> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines
> >
> > Regards,
> > Giby
> >
> > On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
> > > Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems
> to be a
> > > native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
> > > Thanks,
> > > Maya Ramaswamy,
> > > Bangalore
> >
> > >  IMG_4117.JPG
> > > 882KViewDownload
> >
> > >  IMG_4097.JPG
> > > 850KViewDownload
> >
> > >  IMG_4098.JPG
> > > 1001KViewDownload
>



 --
  - H.S.

 A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
 of stone


>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74629] Re: Flora of Panipat- Gomphrena haageana from a nursery in Panipat

2011-07-20 Thread Pankaj Kumar
According to me the issue is different sir.

Haagei could be one option when the word ends in a vowel. Orther such
examples are 'hegdei', 'maderoi' and 'rosei'

When Haagei is there it means Haage's Gomphrena, which in turn can be
ideally or wrongly perceived as the plant was originally collected by
Haage but described by someone else. Here 'Haage' is used as a 'Noun'.

Haageana means Haagean Gomphrena, which could mean, as beautiful as
Haage. Here 'Haage' is used as an 'Adjective'. Some other examples
are, 'weddelliana', 'congniauxiana' and 'wallichiana'.

It is then followed by 'a' or 'us' or 'um', to denote the gender.

In first case, the importance to the person is lessened but in second
case you are kind of admiring the person by giving a name after him.

Regards
Pankaj



On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Since the name ends in a vowel, -an is added after the person name instead
> of ian (for names ending in consonant), and then the usual gender ending -a,
> -um or -us as the case may be.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Pankaj Ji for details
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is very peculiar species name and so I just tried to look for
>>> information why the plant has been named this way.
>>> Actually the species name is to commemorate J.N. Haage (1926-78), a
>>> German plant collector and seedsman.
>>> Regards
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 20, 6:00 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>>> > Dear All
>>> > Gomphrena haageana
>>> > A Garden Annual Herb shot from a nursery in Panipat
>>> > pls validate
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Dr Balkar Singh
>>> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>> > Arya P G College, Panipat
>>> > Haryana-132103
>>> > 09416262964
>>> >
>>> >  Gomphrena haageana (1).JPG
>>> > 330KViewDownload
>>> >
>>> >  Gomphrena haageana (3).JPG
>>> > 188KViewDownload
>>> >
>>> >  Gomphrena haageana (4).JPG
>>> > 210KViewDownload
>>> >
>>> >  Gomphrena haageanaSm.JPG
>>> > 494KViewDownload
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Dr Balkar Singh
>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>> Haryana-132103
>> 09416262964
>
>
>
>



-- 
***
"TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"


Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India


[efloraofindia:74628] Re: VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE

2011-07-20 Thread mchunkat
Dear All,
As usual things are a bit more complicated. This is what I found on
the net.

---
Short Communication
Collection, characterization and olfactory evaluation of Pandanus
species in Southern India
Rahul L. Zanana1 and Altafhusain B. Nadafa1 c1
a1 Department of Botany, University of Pune, Pune 411007, India
Abstract
A detailed survey along the coastal regions of Southern India revealed
the occurrence of seven Pandanus species, viz. P. kaida Kurz., P.
odorifer (Forssk.) Kuntz., P. canaranus Warb., P. furcatus Roxb., P.
thwaitesii Mart., P. foetidus Roxb and a new species P. palakkadensis
Nadaf, Zanan & Wakte. The fragrance of staminate inflorescences of
these species was compared with the fragrance of commercial staminate
inflorescences of P. odorifer. P. thwaitesii, P. kaida and P.
palakkadensis recorded comparable fragrance with that of P. odorifer.
The study reveals the fragrance potential of these species, which
could be exploited commercially for extraction of essential oil.
(Received February 24 2011)
(Accepted May 04 2011)
---
Could somebody throw more light on this.. Thanks.
Mohan Chunkath

On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Col Bimal Sarkar  wrote:
> Dear Friend,
>    Valmiki mentioned about Ketak or Ketaki in his 
> Ramayan.It is known as SCREW-PINE in English.Scientifically it is known as 
> Pandanus odoratissimus.Chakravarti S Venkatesh gives some interesting input 
> about the plant.
>  "I t appears that the ancient Hindus,like the Babylonians,had some 
> inkling of the presence of sex in plants.For example,the male plants of the 
> Screwpine were called Ketaki viphala or Dhulipushpika,the female as Svarna 
> Ketaki,and the male and female together as Ketakidvayam meaning a pair of 
> Ketakis."
>  Attaching an image of KETAKI.
>
> Regards
> Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
> Mobile: 9434194942
>
>  Ketak.jpg
> 124KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:74627] Re: Flora of Panipat- Gomphrena haageana from a nursery in Panipat

2011-07-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Since the name ends in a vowel, -an is added after the person name instead
of ian (for names ending in consonant), and then the usual gender ending -a,
-um or -us as the case may be.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

> Thanks Pankaj Ji for details
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> That is very peculiar species name and so I just tried to look for
>> information why the plant has been named this way.
>> Actually the species name is to commemorate J.N. Haage (1926-78), a
>> German plant collector and seedsman.
>> Regards
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 6:00 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>> > Dear All
>> > Gomphrena haageana
>> > A Garden Annual Herb shot from a nursery in Panipat
>> > pls validate
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Dr Balkar Singh
>> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> > Arya P G College, Panipat
>> > Haryana-132103
>> > 09416262964
>> >
>> >  Gomphrena haageana (1).JPG
>> > 330KViewDownload
>> >
>> >  Gomphrena haageana (3).JPG
>> > 188KViewDownload
>> >
>> >  Gomphrena haageana (4).JPG
>> > 210KViewDownload
>> >
>> >  Gomphrena haageanaSm.JPG
>> > 494KViewDownload
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>


[efloraofindia:74626] Re: Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Smilax004
A good suggestion from Pankajji.


Regards
Giby




On Jul 20, 7:56 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> Dear Sharada mam,
> Firstly thanks a lot for joining our group. Now that I know that you
> are a writer/journalist, I am tempted to ask you for a favour. This is
> my personal view so please dont misunderstand it.
> This efloraofindia is the first and only one of its kind that exists
> in India where members are from varied background but share
> information on plant diversity. Me sitting on my chair in the
> foothills of Himalaya at Wildlife Institute of India, with access to
> internet can know what plants are flowering in South India in the
> western Ghats and at the same time what is in flowering in the north
> east Himalaya. Members have been selflessly sharing the information
> and expertise to each and every posts. This is really getting into a
> form of an online organisation. So, why dont you write an article
> about it and let people know about our efforts. Let people know how a
> common man from various background can get involved in scientific
> information sharing by making best use of resources available for
> free. They just need to devote some time out of their usual work. This
> will help us gain more members as well a expertise and ultimately a
> better database on indian plants.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
> On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Ushadi micromini 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Welcome, Sharada ji...
> > there are so many issues that need raising awareness about,
> > that a trained journalist who takes an active interest in the issue
> > and writes/ expresses herself well is very welcome...
>
> > Usha di
> > =
>
> > On Jul 20, 7:08 pm, formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > Welcome to the group. We also have a subgroup of storytellors hidden 
> > > among the scientists.
> > > So now we have a real story teller.
> > > Welcome by the story teller group too
> > > Madhuri
> > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sharada Balasubramanian 
>
> > > Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:39:16
> > > To: 
> > > Subject: [efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!
>
> > > Hello everyone,
>
> > > I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after 
> > > a
> > > 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> > > specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
> > > and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
> > > work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what 
> > > they
> > > do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently 
> > > write
> > > for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally 
> > > write
> > > for newspapers on environment.
>
> > > I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
> > > lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
>
> > > Thank you!
>
> > > Sharada
>
> > > --
>
> > >www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> > > wildlifemusings.wordpress.com


Re: [efloraofindia:74624] Re: Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Balkar Arya
yes Pankaj Ji

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM,  wrote:

> Well said
> Three cheers to efloraindia!
> Madhuri
> --Original Message--
> From: Dr Pankaj Kumar
> Sender: Efloraindia
> To: Efloraindia
> Subject: [efloraofindia:74619] Re: Hello, I am a new member!
> Sent: Jul 20, 2011 8:26 PM
>
> Dear Sharada mam,
> Firstly thanks a lot for joining our group. Now that I know that you
> are a writer/journalist, I am tempted to ask you for a favour. This is
> my personal view so please dont misunderstand it.
> This efloraofindia is the first and only one of its kind that exists
> in India where members are from varied background but share
> information on plant diversity. Me sitting on my chair in the
> foothills of Himalaya at Wildlife Institute of India, with access to
> internet can know what plants are flowering in South India in the
> western Ghats and at the same time what is in flowering in the north
> east Himalaya. Members have been selflessly sharing the information
> and expertise to each and every posts. This is really getting into a
> form of an online organisation. So, why dont you write an article
> about it and let people know about our efforts. Let people know how a
> common man from various background can get involved in scientific
> information sharing by making best use of resources available for
> free. They just need to devote some time out of their usual work. This
> will help us gain more members as well a expertise and ultimately a
> better database on indian plants.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Ushadi micromini 
> wrote:
> > Welcome, Sharada ji...
> > there are so many issues that need raising awareness about,
> > that a trained journalist who takes an active interest in the issue
> > and writes/ expresses herself well is very welcome...
> >
> > Usha di
> > =
> >
> > On Jul 20, 7:08 pm, formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Welcome to the group. We also have a subgroup of storytellors hidden
> among the scientists.
> > > So now we have a real story teller.
> > > Welcome by the story teller group too
> > > Madhuri
> > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sharada Balasubramanian 
> >
> > > Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:39:16
> > > To: 
> > > Subject: [efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> >
> > > I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and
> after a
> > > 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> > > specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation
> education
> > > and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate
> and
> > > work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what
> they
> > > do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently
> write
> > > for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally
> write
> > > for newspapers on environment.
> >
> > > I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact
> with a
> > > lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
> >
> > > Thank you!
> >
> > > Sharada
> >
> > > --
> >
> > >www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> > > wildlifemusings.wordpress.com
>
>
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>



-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:74623] Re: Flora of Panipat- Gomphrena haageana from a nursery in Panipat

2011-07-20 Thread Balkar Arya
Thanks Pankaj Ji for details

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote:

> That is very peculiar species name and so I just tried to look for
> information why the plant has been named this way.
> Actually the species name is to commemorate J.N. Haage (1926-78), a
> German plant collector and seedsman.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 6:00 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> > Dear All
> > Gomphrena haageana
> > A Garden Annual Herb shot from a nursery in Panipat
> > pls validate
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
> >
> >  Gomphrena haageana (1).JPG
> > 330KViewDownload
> >
> >  Gomphrena haageana (3).JPG
> > 188KViewDownload
> >
> >  Gomphrena haageana (4).JPG
> > 210KViewDownload
> >
> >  Gomphrena haageanaSm.JPG
> > 494KViewDownload




-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:74621] Re: Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread formpejaver
Well said
Three cheers to efloraindia!
Madhuri
--Original Message--
From: Dr Pankaj Kumar
Sender: Efloraindia
To: Efloraindia
Subject: [efloraofindia:74619] Re: Hello, I am a new member!
Sent: Jul 20, 2011 8:26 PM

Dear Sharada mam,
Firstly thanks a lot for joining our group. Now that I know that you
are a writer/journalist, I am tempted to ask you for a favour. This is
my personal view so please dont misunderstand it.
This efloraofindia is the first and only one of its kind that exists
in India where members are from varied background but share
information on plant diversity. Me sitting on my chair in the
foothills of Himalaya at Wildlife Institute of India, with access to
internet can know what plants are flowering in South India in the
western Ghats and at the same time what is in flowering in the north
east Himalaya. Members have been selflessly sharing the information
and expertise to each and every posts. This is really getting into a
form of an online organisation. So, why dont you write an article
about it and let people know about our efforts. Let people know how a
common man from various background can get involved in scientific
information sharing by making best use of resources available for
free. They just need to devote some time out of their usual work. This
will help us gain more members as well a expertise and ultimately a
better database on indian plants.
Regards
Pankaj





On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Ushadi micromini 
wrote:
> Welcome, Sharada ji...
> there are so many issues that need raising awareness about,
> that a trained journalist who takes an active interest in the issue
> and writes/ expresses herself well is very welcome...
>
> Usha di
> =
>
> On Jul 20, 7:08 pm, formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Welcome to the group. We also have a subgroup of storytellors hidden among 
> > the scientists.
> > So now we have a real story teller.
> > Welcome by the story teller group too
> > Madhuri
> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sharada Balasubramanian 
>
> > Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:39:16
> > To: 
> > Subject: [efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!
>
> > Hello everyone,
>
> > I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after a
> > 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> > specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
> > and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
> > work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
> > do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
> > for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
> > for newspapers on environment.
>
> > I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
> > lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
>
> > Thank you!
>
> > Sharada
>
> > --
>
> >www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> > wildlifemusings.wordpress.com


Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

[efloraofindia:74620] Re: Flora of Panipat- Gomphrena haageana from a nursery in Panipat

2011-07-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
That is very peculiar species name and so I just tried to look for
information why the plant has been named this way.
Actually the species name is to commemorate J.N. Haage (1926-78), a
German plant collector and seedsman.
Regards
Pankaj



On Jul 20, 6:00 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Dear All
> Gomphrena haageana
> A Garden Annual Herb shot from a nursery in Panipat
> pls validate
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Gomphrena haageana (1).JPG
> 330KViewDownload
>
>  Gomphrena haageana (3).JPG
> 188KViewDownload
>
>  Gomphrena haageana (4).JPG
> 210KViewDownload
>
>  Gomphrena haageanaSm.JPG
> 494KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74619] Re: Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Dear Sharada mam,
Firstly thanks a lot for joining our group. Now that I know that you
are a writer/journalist, I am tempted to ask you for a favour. This is
my personal view so please dont misunderstand it.
This efloraofindia is the first and only one of its kind that exists
in India where members are from varied background but share
information on plant diversity. Me sitting on my chair in the
foothills of Himalaya at Wildlife Institute of India, with access to
internet can know what plants are flowering in South India in the
western Ghats and at the same time what is in flowering in the north
east Himalaya. Members have been selflessly sharing the information
and expertise to each and every posts. This is really getting into a
form of an online organisation. So, why dont you write an article
about it and let people know about our efforts. Let people know how a
common man from various background can get involved in scientific
information sharing by making best use of resources available for
free. They just need to devote some time out of their usual work. This
will help us gain more members as well a expertise and ultimately a
better database on indian plants.
Regards
Pankaj





On Jul 20, 7:40 pm, Ushadi micromini 
wrote:
> Welcome, Sharada ji...
> there are so many issues that need raising awareness about,
> that a trained journalist who takes an active interest in the issue
> and writes/ expresses herself well is very welcome...
>
> Usha di
> =
>
> On Jul 20, 7:08 pm, formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Welcome to the group. We also have a subgroup of storytellors hidden among 
> > the scientists.
> > So now we have a real story teller.
> > Welcome by the story teller group too
> > Madhuri
> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sharada Balasubramanian 
>
> > Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:39:16
> > To: 
> > Subject: [efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!
>
> > Hello everyone,
>
> > I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after a
> > 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> > specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
> > and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
> > work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
> > do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
> > for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
> > for newspapers on environment.
>
> > I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
> > lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
>
> > Thank you!
>
> > Sharada
>
> > --
>
> >www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> > wildlifemusings.wordpress.com


Re: [efloraofindia:74617] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread Vijayasankar
It is *Ziziphus mauritiana* (= *Z. jujuba*) of Rhamnaceae family. Called as
'ilandhai' இலந்தை in Tamil.
The fruits are edible (but beware of large, stone-like seed :).

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Dinesh Valke wrote:

> ... please ignore my thought ... oversaw the first photo showing handsome
> shrub.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, H S  wrote:
>
>> to me it look like Z. mauritiana
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Smilax004 wrote:
>>
>>> May be Z. glabrata?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Giby
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 20, 1:52 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
>>> > Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.
>>> >
>>> > Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
>>> > identification.
>>> > Please go through the link given below and please try post by
>>> > providing information in the given format @
>>> >
>>> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Giby
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
>>> > > Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems
>>> to be a
>>> > > native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Maya Ramaswamy,
>>> > > Bangalore
>>> >
>>> > >  IMG_4117.JPG
>>> > > 882KViewDownload
>>> >
>>> > >  IMG_4097.JPG
>>> > > 850KViewDownload
>>> >
>>> > >  IMG_4098.JPG
>>> > > 1001KViewDownload
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  - H.S.
>>
>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
>> stone
>>
>>
>


[efloraofindia:74616] Re: Dashapushpam

2011-07-20 Thread Ushadi micromini

Gosh: what a lot of effort from Dinesh ji, Madhuri ji, and Viyashankar
ji
thank you thank you...
Great guns...
Usha di


On Jul 19, 2:20 pm, manudev madhavan 
wrote:
> Great effort..!!!
> Thanks to all...!!!
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Madhuri Pejaver 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Great Dineshji and Vijayshankar ji
> > for the prompt reply that too in orderly manner.
> > Mani ji Maka is there. I missed the bhringraj which is maka as written by
> > Dineshji.
> > Most of the names I am familiar with. Now will have to see the flowers and
> > plant photos so that will know correctly.
> > Here only thing what struck was we call patri in Sanskrit and offer the
> > leaves to Lord Ganesh.
> > But here it Dashpushpam, but no flowers again many of them are patris.
> > Madhuri   .
>
> > --- On *Mon, 18/7/11, Dinesh Valke * wrote:
>
> > From: Dinesh Valke 
> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:74433] Re: Dashapushpam
> > To: formpeja...@yahoo.com
> > Cc: "mani nair" , "Efloraindia" <
> > indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, "Satish Phadke" ,
> > "Smilax004" 
> > Date: Monday, 18 July, 2011, 7:41 PM
>
> > Madhuri ji,
>
> > My attempt at gathering names ...
>
> > *No.**Vernacular* *Botanical**Marathi*1. Karuka*Cynodon dactylon*दुरवा
> > durva, हरळी harali 2.Valli uzhinja*Cardiospermum halicacabum* पिंगवी
> > pingavi3.Poovankurunnela*Vernonia cinerea* सहदेवी sahadevi4.Muyalchevian 
> > *Emilia
> > sonchifolia*सदामंदी5. Kayyonni*Eclipta alba*भृंगराज bhringaraj, माका maka
> > 6.Nilappana*Curculigo orchioides*काळी मुसळी kali musali, तालमूली tal-muli
> > 7.Vishnukranti*Evolvulus alsinoides* शंखवेल shankhavel, विष्णुक्रांत
> > vishnukranta8.Mukkutti *Biophytum sensitivum*झरेरा jharera, लाजवंती
> > lajwanti9. Cherula*Aerva lanata*कापूरमाधुरी kapurmadhuri 
> > 10.Thirutali*Ipomoea
> > sepiaria* आमटी वेल amti-vel
>
> > Regards.
> > Dinesh
>
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:08 PM, 
> > http://mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > ** He Maniji
> > Great! Thanks!
> > Yes all of them I am familiar with. I knew that there woul be durva and
> > bramhi (bhrungraj).
> > Expected Maka too and terda_ balsum.
> > Thanks again
> > Dinesh ji ur turn.
>
> > Madhuri
>
> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
> > --
> > *From: * mani nair 
> > http://mc/compose?to=mani.na...@gmail.com>>
>
> > *Sender: * 
> > indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > *Date: *Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:35:41 +0530
> > *To: *Satish 
> > Phadkehttp://mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com>
>
> > *Cc: 
> > *Smilax004http://mc/compose?to=giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>>;
> > efloraofindiahttp://mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>
> > *Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:74310] Re: Dashapushpam
>
> > Dear Madhuri ji,
>
> > I can give the translation of the following plants names to Marathi.
>
> > 1.  Karuka  -     Dhruva grass -  it is offered to Ganesha.
> > 2.  Kayyonni    - Brigaraj  -  it is used in hair oil
> > 3.  Nilappana   -  Kali Musali  - used in tonics
> > 4.  Mukkutti    -  Lajwanti
>
> > For more details of above and  translation of remaining  over to Dinesh ji.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Mani Nair.
>
> --
> *Manudev K Madhavan*
> Junior Research Fellow
> Systematic & Floristic Lab,
> Department of Botany,
> Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research
> St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
> Kozhikode- 673 008
> Mob: 9496470738


[efloraofindia:74615] Re: Habenaria grandifloriformis flowering

2011-07-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Yes this is Habenaria grandifloriformis.
Grandifloriformis means, BIG FLOWER BEARING, hence logically it should
be named as BIG FLOWER BEARING HABENARIA, though there are many other
species which bears much bigger flower :)).
By the way, this is an endemic orchid of India.

Pankaj




On Jul 20, 6:43 pm, H S  wrote:
> yes H. grandifloriformis
>
> regards,
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Neil Soares  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  The Single-leaved Habenaria [H.grandifloriformis] was also flowering.
> > Sending a few photographs.
> >                     With regards,
> >                       Neil Soares.
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone


Re: [efloraofindia:74614] dentification of an ornamental shrub

2011-07-20 Thread Balkar Arya
Smart looking  Ushaji

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:06 PM, ushadi Micromini  wrote:

> Yes, Limonia or Ravenna spectabilis...
> Hers's mine
> quite common gardens and nurseries in Bengal
> Usha di
>



-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:74613] Re: Nervilia sp. revisited

2011-07-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Dear Neil sir,
It seems as if 1,2,5,6 are 1 species and 3,4 are another. To me 3,4
are Nervilia crociformis (earlier called Nervilia prainiana). 1,2,5,6
could be Nervilia infundibulifolia, but yes, with just the leaves it
cant be confirmed.
Thanks so much for sharing and also for the understanding of other
members, you can see the issue here. Orchids are full of such
taxonomic issues and Nervilia itself is one such enigmatic group.
Now more tough job is to wait for the flowers to confirm.
Pankaj




On Jul 20, 4:12 pm, Neil Soares  wrote:
> Hi,
>  Had previously posted a few photographs of a species of Nervilia flowering 
> at my home in Bombay and they are available at this site :
>  https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/cf...
>  
>  Had subsequently planted it at my farm at Shahapur and as directed by 
> Dr.Pankaj Kumar kept a watch for the leaf produced - photographs 1a & 1b  
> which indicate that it is possibly the Maroon Rib-leaf Orchid 
> [N.infundibulifolia].
>   Had also planted 2 more bulbs and the leaves produced are seen in 
> photographs 2a,2b [possibly the Greenish Rib-leaf Orchid] & 3a,3b [another 
> N.infundibulifolia]. Unfortunately could not photograph the last 
> two flowering.
>  
>   Regards,
>     Neil Soares.
>
>  Leaves of Nervilia sp. 1a.jpg
> 145KViewDownload
>
>  Leaves of Nervilia sp. 1b.jpg
> 147KViewDownload
>
>  Leaves of Nervilia sp. 2a.jpg
> 89KViewDownload
>
>  Leaves of Nervilia sp. 2b.jpg
> 131KViewDownload
>
>  Leaves of Nervilia sp. 3a.jpg
> 114KViewDownload
>
>  Leaves of Nervilia sp. 3b.jpg
> 131KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:74612] Cynara cardunculus subsp. cardunculus from Kashmir

2011-07-20 Thread Balkar Arya
Yes Satish Ji Beautiful. A new plant for me

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Satish Phadke  wrote:

> Very good set of pictures.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> *Cynara cardunculus* L., Sp. Pl. 827, 1753 subsp. cardunculus
>> Syn: *Carduus* *cardunculus* (L.) Baill.; *Cynara sylvestris* Lam.;
>> Cynara scolymus L.
>>
>> Common names: Artichoke thistle, cardoon, cardone, cardoni, artichoke
>>
>> A tall plant often reaching 2 m in height with fleshy tap root; leaves
>> once to twice pinnately lobed or almost compound, with oblong to lanceolate,
>> entire or toothed lobes, with or without spiny tips, usually
>> white-tomentose; heads  up to 15 cm across, bluish-purple; involucre bracts
>> usually spine tipped or without spine (globe artichoke); style exserted.
>>
>> Leaf rachis and stems are edible whereas in Globe artichoke flesh
>> involucre bracts are used as food.
>>
>> Photographed from Hazuribagh garden (now Iqbal Garden) in Srinagar,
>> Kashmir
>>
>> IT MUST BE MENTIONED THAT PLANT DISPLAYED AT FOI IS NOT CARDOON AT ALL.
>> THE HEADS ARE REDDISH< MUCH SMALLER AND BRACTS DIFFERENT> IT MAY BE A
>> SPECIES OF CARDUUS THISTLE.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:74611] Re: Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Ushadi micromini
Welcome, Sharada ji...
there are so many issues that need raising awareness about,
that a trained journalist who takes an active interest in the issue
and writes/ expresses herself well is very welcome...

Usha di
=

On Jul 20, 7:08 pm, formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Welcome to the group. We also have a subgroup of storytellors hidden among 
> the scientists.
> So now we have a real story teller.
> Welcome by the story teller group too
> Madhuri
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sharada Balasubramanian 
>
> Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:39:16
> To: 
> Subject: [efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after a
> 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
> and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
> work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
> do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
> for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
> for newspapers on environment.
>
> I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
> lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Sharada
>
> --
>
> www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> wildlifemusings.wordpress.com


Re: [efloraofindia:74608] Cynara cardunculus subsp. cardunculus 'Globe artichoke' from California

2011-07-20 Thread Balkar Arya
Wonderful looks like Bandhgobhi
thanks For sharing Sir

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Globe artichoke, formerly Cynara scolymus now considered as horticultural
> race of Cynara cardunculus subsp. cardunculus. The commonly cultivated
> cultivar with fleshy spineless involucre bracts, rounded at tip, often used
> as vegetable. Photographed from California
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:74607] Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread formpejaver
Welcome to the group. We also have a subgroup of storytellors hidden among the 
scientists.
So now we have a real story teller.
Welcome by the story teller group too
Madhuri
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: Sharada Balasubramanian 
Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:39:16 
To: 
Subject: [efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!

Hello everyone,

I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after a
8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
for newspapers on environment.

I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
lot of people, and gain more knowledge.

Thank you!

Sharada

-- 

www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
wildlifemusings.wordpress.com



Re: [efloraofindia:74606] Trees falling in monsoon

2011-07-20 Thread H S
Now BMC are planning to set a committee on this!!! Now committee member will
go around the city and decide what to cut (pruning) and what to not cut...

I feel, this all should have done before monsoon.

Hope they dont repeat the same mistake next year!!

regards,


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:58 PM, mani nair  wrote:

> Thanks Satyendra ji, Giby ji, Madhuri ji and Yazdy ji for your reply.  Yes
> you are right Yazdy ji, we have to accept what is not in our hands. I think
> if we had done the things correctly and on time and the accident happened,
> we have a satisfaction that we have done our bit and  therefore it was not
> due to our fault, but here the authorities are simply passing the bucks.   I
> think the main problem is due to the digging by Telephone and Gas
> authorities.  They cut the roots and do not bother to cover the digged
> portion with mud thus exposing the roots to the elements.   The second
> reason could be more exotic trees like Gulmohar are planted whose roots do
> not go very deep.  Yes Yazdy ji, in our Society's compound trees I do
> whatever I can do myself like putting soil around the trees and trimming the
> old branches etc. but that is very little.
>
> Mr. Gibby's reason also is true as in forests trees are interlinked  thus
> helping each other and the roots also go very deep.  Also there should be
> proper pruning done at the right time i..e. before monsoon starts, but here
> everything starts after the accident !!.  Even they do the pruning they cut
> half of the tree and very difficult for the tree to survive.
> Madhuri ji, I received your mail and I am planning to attend the camp.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani.
>
>
>
>


-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone


Re: [efloraofindia:74605] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread Dinesh Valke
... please ignore my thought ... oversaw the first photo showing handsome
shrub.
Regards.
Dinesh



On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, H S  wrote:

> to me it look like Z. mauritiana
>
> regards,
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Smilax004 wrote:
>
>> May be Z. glabrata?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Giby
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 1:52 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
>> > Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.
>> >
>> > Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
>> > identification.
>> > Please go through the link given below and please try post by
>> > providing information in the given format @
>> >
>> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Giby
>> >
>> > On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
>> > > Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems to
>> be a
>> > > native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Maya Ramaswamy,
>> > > Bangalore
>> >
>> > >  IMG_4117.JPG
>> > > 882KViewDownload
>> >
>> > >  IMG_4097.JPG
>> > > 850KViewDownload
>> >
>> > >  IMG_4098.JPG
>> > > 1001KViewDownload
>>
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74604] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread Dinesh Valke
... could be *Ziziphus nummularia*.
Regards.
Dinesh



On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Smilax004  wrote:

> May be Z. glabrata?
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
>
> On Jul 20, 1:52 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
> > Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.
> >
> > Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
> > identification.
> > Please go through the link given below and please try post by
> > providing information in the given format @
> >
> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines
> >
> > Regards,
> > Giby
> >
> > On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
> > > Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems to
> be a
> > > native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
> > > Thanks,
> > > Maya Ramaswamy,
> > > Bangalore
> >
> > >  IMG_4117.JPG
> > > 882KViewDownload
> >
> > >  IMG_4097.JPG
> > > 850KViewDownload
> >
> > >  IMG_4098.JPG
> > > 1001KViewDownload
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74603] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread H S
to me it look like Z. mauritiana

regards,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Smilax004  wrote:

> May be Z. glabrata?
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
>
> On Jul 20, 1:52 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
> > Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.
> >
> > Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
> > identification.
> > Please go through the link given below and please try post by
> > providing information in the given format @
> >
> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines
> >
> > Regards,
> > Giby
> >
> > On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
> > > Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems to
> be a
> > > native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
> > > Thanks,
> > > Maya Ramaswamy,
> > > Bangalore
> >
> > >  IMG_4117.JPG
> > > 882KViewDownload
> >
> > >  IMG_4097.JPG
> > > 850KViewDownload
> >
> > >  IMG_4098.JPG
> > > 1001KViewDownload
>



-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone


Re: [efloraofindia:74602] Cynara cardunculus subsp. cardunculus from Kashmir

2011-07-20 Thread Satish Phadke
Very good set of pictures.


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> *Cynara cardunculus* L., Sp. Pl. 827, 1753 subsp. cardunculus
> Syn: *Carduus* *cardunculus* (L.) Baill.; *Cynara sylvestris* Lam.; Cynara
> scolymus L.
>
> Common names: Artichoke thistle, cardoon, cardone, cardoni, artichoke
>
> A tall plant often reaching 2 m in height with fleshy tap root; leaves once
> to twice pinnately lobed or almost compound, with oblong to lanceolate,
> entire or toothed lobes, with or without spiny tips, usually
> white-tomentose; heads  up to 15 cm across, bluish-purple; involucre bracts
> usually spine tipped or without spine (globe artichoke); style exserted.
>
> Leaf rachis and stems are edible whereas in Globe artichoke flesh involucre
> bracts are used as food.
>
> Photographed from Hazuribagh garden (now Iqbal Garden) in Srinagar, Kashmir
>
> IT MUST BE MENTIONED THAT PLANT DISPLAYED AT FOI IS NOT CARDOON AT ALL. THE
> HEADS ARE REDDISH< MUCH SMALLER AND BRACTS DIFFERENT> IT MAY BE A SPECIES OF
> CARDUUS THISTLE.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74601] pavetta indica

2011-07-20 Thread H S
There is a species Pavetta concanensis,,, pls also check with that..

regards,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Mohina Macker wrote:

> pavetta indica i hope
>
> it was growing wild along a road in goa
> in complete profusion of flowers
>
> regards
> mohina macker
>



-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone


Re: [efloraofindia:74600] Habenaria grandifloriformis flowering

2011-07-20 Thread H S
yes H. grandifloriformis

regards,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Neil Soares  wrote:

> Hi,
>  The Single-leaved Habenaria [H.grandifloriformis] was also flowering.
> Sending a few photographs.
> With regards,
>   Neil Soares.
>



-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone


Re: [efloraofindia:74599] Re: climber for id 20 07 2011 mm3

2011-07-20 Thread H S
yes Jasminum malabaricum

regards,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Dinesh Valke wrote:

> ... my belief: *Jasminium malabaricum*
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:02 PM, mohina macker wrote:
>
>> i suspect this is jasminium malabaricum
>> would appreciate a confirmation
>> regards
>> mohina macker
>
>
>


-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone


Re: [efloraofindia:74598] Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Welcome Sharada ji
Good to have you in our group.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Dinesh Valke wrote:

> Welcome Sharada ji,
> It is good to find people of different fields in our group.
> Happy posting.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Sharada Balasubramanian <
> sharadawri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after
>> a 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
>> specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
>> and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
>> work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
>> do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
>> for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
>> for newspapers on environment.
>>
>> I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
>> lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Sharada
>>
>> --
>>
>> www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
>> wildlifemusings.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:74597] Re: climber for id 20 07 2011 mm3

2011-07-20 Thread Dinesh Valke
... my belief: *Jasminium malabaricum*
Regards.
Dinesh



On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:02 PM, mohina macker wrote:

> i suspect this is jasminium malabaricum
> would appreciate a confirmation
> regards
> mohina macker


Re: [efloraofindia:74596] Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Dinesh Valke
Welcome Sharada ji,
It is good to find people of different fields in our group.
Happy posting.

Regards.
Dinesh




On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Sharada Balasubramanian <
sharadawri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after a
> 8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
> specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
> and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
> work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
> do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
> for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
> for newspapers on environment.
>
> I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
> lot of people, and gain more knowledge.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Sharada
>
> --
>
> www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
> wildlifemusings.wordpress.com
>
>
>


[efloraofindia:74595] Re: Second tree for ID..Maya Ramaswamy

2011-07-20 Thread Smilax004
Acacia mangium of Leguminosae.


Regards,
Giby





On Jul 20, 2:08 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
> Thank you very much for the prompt response.. here's the next..
> sorry these pictures are a little blurred, because it was a cloudy evening,
> and I'm clueless about cameras.. but hope its enough for an id. This
> blossoms have a wonderful fragrance.
> regards, and thanks,
> Maya Ramaswamy,
> Bangalore
>
>  IMG_4115.JPG
> 993KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_4114.JPG
> 808KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_4113.JPG
> 784KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74592] Hello, I am a new member!

2011-07-20 Thread Sharada Balasubramanian
Hello everyone,

I am Sharada and new to this group. I am a writer by profession and after a
8-yr stint in journalism, I now write actively on environmental issues,
specifically on conservation. My aim is to write on conservation education
and reach out to the masses to educate through writing. I coordinate and
work with different scientists and then understand the essence of what they
do and put it across to people to understand what happens. I currently write
for TerraGreen on environment and sustainability. I also occasionally write
for newspapers on environment.

I am happy to be a part of this group! I hope to learn and interact with a
lot of people, and gain more knowledge.

Thank you!

Sharada

-- 

www.sharadabalasubramanian.in
wildlifemusings.wordpress.com


[efloraofindia:74592] identification of an ornamental shrub

2011-07-20 Thread arun sharma
Dear all,

Thanks for the ID

Arun Sharma


[efloraofindia:74591] Re: climber for id 20 07 2011 mm2

2011-07-20 Thread mohina macker
many thanks for both ids
regards
mohina macker


[efloraofindia:74590] Re: climber for id 20 07 2011 mm3

2011-07-20 Thread mohina macker
i suspect this is jasminium malabaricum
would appreciate a confirmation
regards
mohina macker


[efloraofindia:74587] Re: climber for id 20 07 2011 mm2

2011-07-20 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Yes, it is Capparis zeylanica,a scandent shrub. Regards, Shrikant

On Jul 20, 4:49 pm, Mohina Macker  wrote:
> climber for id
>
> was growing on a sea facing cliff in goa
>
> the fruits were about an inch to an inch and a half
> hanging from the branch like lanterns
>
> on opening the fruit, it was whitish from inside with a disagreeable smell
> the seeds are about quarter of an inch long and eighth of an inch across
>
> would very much appreciate an id
>
> regards
> mohina macker
>
>  IMG_0230 a.jpg
> 184KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_0238 a.jpg
> 99KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74586] Re: climber for id 20 07 2011 mm

2011-07-20 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Derris trifoliata or Karanjvel, a mangrove associate but can grow a
little away from saline water. In spite of the name it has 5 leaflets.
Regards, Shrikant

On Jul 20, 4:33 pm, Mohina Macker  wrote:
> this climber was growing wild in goa, besides a paddyfield
> would very much appreciate an id
> regards mohina macker
>
>  IMG_0068 aa.jpg
> 160KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_0069b.jpg
> 84KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:74585] climber for id 20 07 2011 mm2

2011-07-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
A species of *Capparis*?

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Mohina Macker wrote:

> climber for id
>
> was growing on a sea facing cliff in goa
>
> the fruits were about an inch to an inch and a half
> hanging from the branch like lanterns
>
> on opening the fruit, it was whitish from inside with a disagreeable smell
> the seeds are about quarter of an inch long and eighth of an inch across
>
> would very much appreciate an id
>
> regards
> mohina macker
>
>



-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:74583] Chaenomeles of Rosaceae for identification 190711MK01

2011-07-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
both are from same Family Faridaji.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Farida Abraham wrote:

> to me they look like the flowers of the peach tree FA
>
> On 7/19/11, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Is this shrub, also found in India? Please help me to resolve this ID,
> what
> > is this C*haenomeles* sp.?
> >
> > Date: 26 March 2011
> > Location: a garden in Cambridge University, UK
> >
> >
> > p.s.:*Chaenomeles speciosa* has been reported from Kodaikanal, TN.
> >
> > --
> > Muthu Karthick, N
> > Care Earth Trust
> > #15, second main road,
> > Thillai ganga nagar,
> > Chennai - 600 061
> > Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> > www.careearthtrust.org
> >
>
>
> --
> Mrs. F. Abraham.
> Principal,
> La Martiniere Girls' College,
> Lucknow 226001.
>



-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:74582] Chaenomeles of Rosaceae for identification 190711MK01

2011-07-20 Thread Farida Abraham
to me they look like the flowers of the peach tree FA

On 7/19/11, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> Dear all,
> Is this shrub, also found in India? Please help me to resolve this ID, what
> is this C*haenomeles* sp.?
>
> Date: 26 March 2011
> Location: a garden in Cambridge University, UK
>
>
> p.s.:*Chaenomeles speciosa* has been reported from Kodaikanal, TN.
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> www.careearthtrust.org
>


-- 
Mrs. F. Abraham.
Principal,
La Martiniere Girls' College,
Lucknow 226001.


Re: [efloraofindia:74577] Trees falling in monsoon

2011-07-20 Thread mani nair
Thanks Satyendra ji, Giby ji, Madhuri ji and Yazdy ji for your reply.  Yes
you are right Yazdy ji, we have to accept what is not in our hands. I think
if we had done the things correctly and on time and the accident happened,
we have a satisfaction that we have done our bit and  therefore it was not
due to our fault, but here the authorities are simply passing the bucks.   I
think the main problem is due to the digging by Telephone and Gas
authorities.  They cut the roots and do not bother to cover the digged
portion with mud thus exposing the roots to the elements.   The second
reason could be more exotic trees like Gulmohar are planted whose roots do
not go very deep.  Yes Yazdy ji, in our Society's compound trees I do
whatever I can do myself like putting soil around the trees and trimming the
old branches etc. but that is very little.

Mr. Gibby's reason also is true as in forests trees are interlinked  thus
helping each other and the roots also go very deep.  Also there should be
proper pruning done at the right time i..e. before monsoon starts, but here
everything starts after the accident !!.  Even they do the pruning they cut
half of the tree and very difficult for the tree to survive.
Madhuri ji, I received your mail and I am planning to attend the camp.

Regards,

Mani.


Re: [efloraofindia:74575] Trees falling in monsoon

2011-07-20 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dear Mani ji,
I have a simple theory, whatever we could manage by ourselves, we must
do. What is not in our hands, we have to accept it. If we worry over
things that we can not help in anyway, we will be only harming
ourselves. I think this is one of those situations. My apologies, this
is not technical. However everything that is public, normally ends
this way. The story of the two ladies who got trapped under a falling
tree is an accident. It reminds me of an incident years ago. An
elderly Homeopathic doctor in Mysore  was walking to his clinic when a
tree fell down a few hundred meters away and the power lines were
brought down over a long stretch one of the killed him. These old
trees may be hollow.
Regards
Yazdy.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:48 AM, mani nair  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> There was a news day before yesterday that in Mumbai one young lady and her
> daughter died due to the falling of a tree on them.  Very sad news. Because
> of no falt of theirs they have to suffer. Our Municipality and the theatre
> owners are passing the buck.  Last year also so many trees fell during the
> monsoon in Mumbai and that too big strong trees are falling.  What could be
> the reason other than strong wind for the falling of trees ? and what we can
> do from our end to protect them ?  Please help.
> Regards,
> Mani Nair


[efloraofindia:74574] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread Smilax004
May be Z. glabrata?

Regards,
Giby


On Jul 20, 1:52 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
> Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.
>
> Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
> identification.
> Please go through the link given below and please try post by
> providing information in the given format @
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
> On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
> > Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems to be a
> > native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
> > Thanks,
> > Maya Ramaswamy,
> > Bangalore
>
> >  IMG_4117.JPG
> > 882KViewDownload
>
> >  IMG_4097.JPG
> > 850KViewDownload
>
> >  IMG_4098.JPG
> > 1001KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74573] Re: Tree ID for SeasonWatch needed..One of two species sending..

2011-07-20 Thread Smilax004
Zizyphus sp of Rhamnaceae family.

Please provide necessary information while posting pictures for
identification.
Please go through the link given below and please try post by
providing information in the given format @

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines

Regards,
Giby




On Jul 20, 1:25 pm, maya ramaswamy  wrote:
> Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
> Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems to be a
> native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
> Thanks,
> Maya Ramaswamy,
> Bangalore
>
>  IMG_4117.JPG
> 882KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_4097.JPG
> 850KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_4098.JPG
> 1001KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:74572] Re: Primula denticulata

2011-07-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
Thanks Pankaj sir and Madeswaraji.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:

> Beautiful pictures, Muthuji.
>
> On Jul 19, 3:19 pm, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Uploading pictures of *Primula denticulata* of Primulaceae. I hope this
> > plant is also found planted in temperate climates of India.
> > Yet I am not sure of this identification, so please help in naming.
> >
> > Date: 26 Mar 2011
> > Location: a home garden, Cambridge University, UK
> >
> > --
> > Muthu Karthick, N
> > Care Earth Trust
> > #15, second main road,
> > Thillai ganga nagar,
> > Chennai - 600 061
> > Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org
> >
> >  Primula (1).jpg
> > 191KViewDownload
> >
> >  Primula (2).jpg
> > 199KViewDownload
> >
> >  Primula (3).jpg
> > 178KViewDownload
> >
> >  Primula.jpg
> > 225KViewDownload
>



-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


[efloraofindia:74570] Trail to Tungarli - Rajmachi Forest

2011-07-20 Thread Rajesh Sachdev
Time
Sunday, July 31 · 8:30am - 05:00pm
--
Location
Lonavala 
--
Created By
Rajesh Sachdev 
--
More Info
Monsoon is set well enough now. The Flora and Fauna has transformed into new
colors in the Sahyadris.The Birdlife is well camouflaged and Flora at its
peak. The insects and butterflies are in wings and reptiles in search of the
food, which is easily available for all of them.
Well, this is not a trek but a nature (or to say flora) walk being organised
on Tungarli-Rajmachi Forest Area (say apprx 5-6 kms of walk), near Lonavala
- Khandala ridge.The walk is open for any and everyone (with certain
limitations of number of participants). We have no experts and all would be
self observe and self identify individuals. And that is the fun of it. So
lets pack your backpack and get into any tarsnport , which would take you to
Lonavala and meet us at ST bus stand sharp at 8AM. All to pay their own
expenses and to carry their own supply of food and water. We shall be back
by evening or late evening. For any assistance, call Rajesh Sachdev on
9890255616

Those on Facebook, can RSVP on the link.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=143262235753366

-- 
Regards
Rajesh Sachdev
http://www.facebook.com/leopardguy


Fw: [efloraofindia:74568] Trees falling in monsoon

2011-07-20 Thread formpejaver

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: formpeja...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:13:34 
To: mani nair; Efloraindia
Reply-To: formpeja...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:74552] Trees falling in monsoon

Dear Maniji
According to the requirement of plantation we need to have the pit dug minimum 
3 feet deep and 2 to 3 feet wide and long. We have to plant the sapling of 
atleast one to two year old. As you can see most of rhe time the plantation on 
road side is done by Municipal corporetions of those areas. They give contract, 
then like typical- the person dig only one foot pit. Even not broad. Many a 
times it is on lower tat/concrete. The rooting area remains out of the pit. The 
lower tar prevents penetration of roots.
Then the caporation thinks of either digging, repairing, pavemaking etc etc. 
Where the tree gets futher uprooted, damaged and then can't withstad the wind.
When we do plantation on our plantation site you should see the wind vilocity 
there,its all open barren land but no single plant gets uprooted this and fall 
down.
If you are interested I will forward the Hariyali mail to the group. You can 
join first time to the group or can go on your own to explore the flora you 
will love the site. It is similar to Kas.
Madhuri
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: mani nair 
Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:48:01 
To: 
Subject: [efloraofindia:74552] Trees falling in monsoon

Dear friends,

There was a news day before yesterday that in Mumbai one young lady and her
daughter died due to the falling of a tree on them.  Very sad news. Because
of no falt of theirs they have to suffer. Our Municipality and the theatre
owners are passing the buck.  Last year also so many trees fell during the
monsoon in Mumbai and that too big strong trees are falling.  What could be
the reason other than strong wind for the falling of trees ? and what we can
do from our end to protect them ?  Please help.

Regards,

Mani Nair



[efloraofindia:74567] Fw: Hariyali Organises an ECO Tour To Bhavale Lenad on 7th August

2011-07-20 Thread formpejaver

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

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Subject: Hariyali Organises an ECO Tour To Bhavale Lenad on 7th August

*MONSOON ECO TOUR TO OUR BHAVALE – LENAD HILLS*

*DATE : 7TH AUGUST 2011*

*Hariyali Thane* has organized *One-day Monsoon Eco Tour of Bhavale-Lenad
Hills & Khandeshwari Caves ,* our Aforestation site. The site is on Pise Dam
Road, off N. H. No. 3, Tal. Bhivandi, Dist: Thane (Just 25 k.m. from Thane;
 excellent road) .

The Bhavale Hills have become greener year by year and many saplings planted
by *YOU* are now strong healthy trees.

There are now *four major water reservoirs* and several secondary ones *created
by Hariyali* and all are filled up to the top giving the place very pleasant
and inviting look.

You are assured of a *very relaxing and rejuvenating experience* inhaling
fresh air and fragrance of many wild flowers and lush green

Re: [efloraofindia:74566] Trees falling in monsoon

2011-07-20 Thread formpejaver
Dear Maniji
According to the requirement of plantation we need to have the pit dug minimum 
3 feet deep and 2 to 3 feet wide and long. We have to plant the sapling of 
atleast one to two year old. As you can see most of rhe time the plantation on 
road side is done by Municipal corporetions of those areas. They give contract, 
then like typical- the person dig only one foot pit. Even not broad. Many a 
times it is on lower tat/concrete. The rooting area remains out of the pit. The 
lower tar prevents penetration of roots.
Then the caporation thinks of either digging, repairing, pavemaking etc etc. 
Where the tree gets futher uprooted, damaged and then can't withstad the wind.
When we do plantation on our plantation site you should see the wind vilocity 
there,its all open barren land but no single plant gets uprooted this and fall 
down.
If you are interested I will forward the Hariyali mail to the group. You can 
join first time to the group or can go on your own to explore the flora you 
will love the site. It is similar to Kas.
Madhuri
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: mani nair 
Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:48:01 
To: 
Subject: [efloraofindia:74552] Trees falling in monsoon

Dear friends,

There was a news day before yesterday that in Mumbai one young lady and her
daughter died due to the falling of a tree on them.  Very sad news. Because
of no falt of theirs they have to suffer. Our Municipality and the theatre
owners are passing the buck.  Last year also so many trees fell during the
monsoon in Mumbai and that too big strong trees are falling.  What could be
the reason other than strong wind for the falling of trees ? and what we can
do from our end to protect them ?  Please help.

Regards,

Mani Nair



[efloraofindia:74565] Re: Trees falling in monsoon

2011-07-20 Thread Smilax004
Dear Maniji,

I am very sorry to hear the sad incidence. This tree fall is happening
in most of the cities. We use to see the same in Bangalore as well.
What I think is that most of the trees are standing solitary and they
are not getting support from others (when we become old we need to get
a hand of support know!). How plant overcome (especially trees with
softwood) this situation. In the forest trees are interlinked by the
canopy and they support each other from falling due to high wind.
Here, solitary trees that are standing alone (most of the avenue trees
are softwood in nature) are prone to fell apart due to hurricane.
Further soil erosion due to irresponsible management.
What I saw in China was that they make protective shield around the
base of each (avenue)trees with hard stones (concreted shields were
also there) around the trees to protect the soil near the tree base.
We have nothing, authorities are waiting for trees to fell down (they
dont bothered about any damage happened or not) so that there would
not be any agitation from environmentalists/ tree lovers who want to
protect the trees. If the authority want to cut a tree they know that
they need to face environmentalists/ tree lovers.
I think protection (of soil and interlinking by planting trees closer
once the first planted trees reached a certain height) has to be taken
care when there is a tree planted along road side. There is no proper
management for trees along road side in our cities (I wonder only in
cities?).

Regards
Giby





On Jul 20, 9:18 am, mani nair  wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> There was a news day before yesterday that in Mumbai one young lady and her
> daughter died due to the falling of a tree on them.  Very sad news. Because
> of no falt of theirs they have to suffer. Our Municipality and the theatre
> owners are passing the buck.  Last year also so many trees fell during the
> monsoon in Mumbai and that too big strong trees are falling.  What could be
> the reason other than strong wind for the falling of trees ? and what we can
> do from our end to protect them ?  Please help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani Nair


[efloraofindia:74563] Re: Flora of Haryana- Cuscuta chinensis from National Dairy Research Institute Karnal

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Thanks for posting the flowers of Cuscuta c.

On Jul 19, 7:30 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Dear All
> *Cuscuta chinensis*
> *
> *From NDRI Campus Karnal growing as wild
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Cuscuta chinensis (1).JPG
> 709KViewDownload
>
>  Cuscuta chinensis (2).JPG
> 260KViewDownload
>
>  Cuscuta chinensis (3).JPG
> 263KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74562] Re: Garden Flower for ID : 180711 : AK-2

2011-07-20 Thread Mahadeswara
Can you please  highlight the difference, taxonomic-ally,  between
A.voodoo and  A.  hybridum

On Jul 19, 10:28 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
> I too stand for Abutilon hybridum of Malvaceae family and I think the
> main difference is in the leaf. In A.striatum the leaves are much/
> deeply lobed whereas in A. hybridum the leaves are generally bigger
> and less lobed. A. hybridum leaves has a maple like in appearance.
> In A. hybridum the calyx is broader whereas in A. striatum it is
> narrower and longer than that of the other species.
>
> Both these species generally show huge variation in leaf size and
> shape, flower color etc
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
> On Jul 18, 1:01 pm, "Aarti S. Khale"  wrote:
>
> > Taken at Kodaikanal on 23/10/2008.
> > Found these in a number of places in different colors.
> > Indian Mallow?
> > Aarti
>
> >  DSCN6539.JPG
> > 145KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:74560] Re: 140711 RV 1

2011-07-20 Thread Smilax004

Dear Dr Shiddamallayya.

The plant in the picture is not Vidanga/Vizhalari (I think you missed
to type 'r' and I read the species name as E.ribes). Please refer the
links below.
My photographs taken while working on the reproductive ecology of E
ribes in Kudremukh national parks are saved in disks that kept in my
native hence I am unable to upload now. E. ribes is a large climber/
Liana with rough bark because of lenticels and the leaves are small
with lots of glands.

The plant in the picture is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam as Vijaysankar
suggested (. I think Embelia basaal put under unresolved (ref:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=embelia) species category. I
haven't got any other valid information other than HS provided to
think the id as Embelia basaal. But still I doubt whether these 2 are
synonyms or 2 different species.

Embelia ribes;
http://www.ayurnepal.com/en/bidang.html
http://parisaramahiti.kar.nic.in/Medicinal_plants_new/med%20plants/p89.html
http://www.mpbd.info/plants/embelia-ribes.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidanga
http://www.academicjournals.org/ajps/PDF/Pdf2010/Dec/Khan%20et%20al.pdf


Embelia tsjeriam-cottam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQW0pwYlMM
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2788224

Regards,
Giby



On Jul 20, 11:37 am, "Dr. Shiddamallayya Mathapati"
 wrote:
> The correct identity of Ayurvedic  ‘Vidanga’  *Embelia* *ibes N. Burman*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:58 PM, H S  wrote:
>
> > The correct identity of commercial ‘Vauding’ used in Ayurvedic preparation
> > *Embelia* *basaal* (R. & S.) A. DC., which also has following synonyms
>
> > *Ardisia* *basaal* Roem. & Schult., Syst. 4:617-8,1819.
>
> > *Embelia* *robusta* Roxb., Fl. Ind. 1:587, 1832.
>
> > *Embelia* *acutipetalum* (Lamk. ex Hassk.) Almeida & Almeida in Journ.
> > Bombay. Nat. hist. Soc. 81: 741, 1984 (1985).
>
> > *Embelia* *acuta* Alston in Trimen, Hands. Fl. Ceylon 6: Suppl. 177, 1931.
>
> > The identity and nomenclature of this species is much confused in the past
> > literature due to following two main reasons:
>
> >    1. The plant used under the name ‘Vauding’ or ‘Vidanga’ (*Embelia* *
> >    ribes* Burm. f.) is of doubtful identity of which presently used name
> >    has lot of technical mistakes which require careful corrections in light 
> > of
> >    ‘Rules of International Code of Botanical Nomenclature’. Its medicinal
> >    properties are not proven beyond doubt. Actually the plant used in
> >    Maharashtra is altogether different species, than the plant used under 
> > that
> >    name.
> >    2. Actual plant in medicine and used in commercial use in Maharashtra
> >    has confusions in its correct name.
>
> >  The earlier common name for ‘Vauding’ in Maharashtra is ‘Basaal’
> > published by Drakestein van Rheede in Fifth volume of ‘Hortus Malabaricus’
> > (1685) which has made line-drawings of more than 800 species from Malabar
> > Coast, presently called the West Coast of India or Coast of Konkan. In those
> > days East Coast of India was called Coast of Coromandel and West Coast as
> > Coast of Malabar.
>
> > ‘Basaal’ of van Rheede for the first time, was named under Linnaean
> > binomial system of Nomenclature and under Sexual system of classification
> > included in class Pentandria monogyna by Roemer and Schulters (1819) as *
> > Ardisia* *basaal* Roem. & Schulters, based on presence of 5 stamens and
> > one chambered cells of the ovaries in the flowers.
>
> > Presently genus *Ardisia* O. Swartz is placed in Robert Brown’s family
> > Myrsinaceae. As per Bentham & Hooker’s, Natural system of classification our
> > species falls under same family Myrsinaceae, but it differs in Generic
> > concept of *Ardisia* O. Sw. and has been shifted to genus *Embelia* Burm.
> > f. (nom. cons.).
>
> > Some authors, like Wight (1852), Cooke (1903), Santapau (1967), Malhotra &
> > Moorthy (1971), Bole & Almeida (1984), Nicolson et al (1988), Ugemuge (1986)
> > had confused ‘Vauding’ with *Embelia* *tsjarium-cottam*, an Euphorbiaceous
> > species based on another drawings in Rheede’s ‘Hortus Malabaricus’
> > (Tsjarium-cottam, Hortus Malabaricus 5: 21-4, t-11, 1685), which goes under
> > the name of *Antidesma* *ghasembilla* in our Indian Floras for which
> > correct name is *Antidesma* *pubescens* Roxb.
>
> > regards,
>
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Ushadi micromini <
> > microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Wonderful thread, and photos, esp Dr. Soares'...
>
> >> WAVDING is an important ayurvedic herb...
> >> its listed in ayurvedic herb books as Embelica ribes
> >> and not this e. basaal...
>
> >> any ayurvedic medicine plant expert among us?
>
> >> lets hear from you...
> >> Usha di
> >> =
>
> >> On Jul 14, 10:34 pm, Neil Soares  wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >  Embelia tsjarjum-cottam is a synonym of Embelia basaal according to
> >> Dr.Almeida's "Flora of Maharashtra" Vol 3.
> >> >  Embelia basaal is the currently accepted terminology. Sending my
> >>

Re: [efloraofindia:74559] Re: dentification of an ornamental shrub

2011-07-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes a synonym for Ravenia spectabilis


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Pinki  wrote:

> one shrub was growing in the Botany Department at Panjab University
> and was labelled as Limonia spectabilis.
>
> Alok
>
> On Jul 19, 8:39 pm, H S  wrote:
> > *Ravenia spectabilis*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Balkar Arya 
> wrote:
> > > here are mine
> >
> > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Gurcharan Singh  >wrote:
> >
> > >> Yes *Ravenia spectabilis*
> > >> *
> > >> *
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > >> Retired  Associate Professor
> > >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > >> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Balkar Arya  >wrote:
> >
> > >>> It may be *Ravenia spectabilis*
> > >>> Arun Ji Please follow the forrmat for id
> > >>> Size of your photo is also very small
> > >>> Pasting from the mail of Gurcharan Ji for clarification
> >
> > >>> This is for the attention of colleagues sending photographs for ID.
> > >>> 1. Subject line should be unique ID (dd+mm++initials+post number
> for
> > >>> the day) followed by the place (preferably city) where the plant was
> > >>> photographed.
> > >>> 2. Exact locality, its altitude should be indicated
> > >>> 3. Habitat where the plant was growing: cultivated, weed of
> cultivation,
> > >>> wastelands, roadsides, marshy area, aquatic etc.
> > >>> 4. Habit: Tree, shrub, woody climber, herbaceous climberr, annual
> herb,
> > >>> perennial herb, etc.
> > >>> 5. Aproximate height of the plant
> > >>> 6. Insersion of leaves, whether alternate (one at each point),
> opposite
> > >>> (two at each point) or whorled (more than two at each point)
> > >>> 7. Aproximate size of middle leaves
> > >>> 8. Flower diameter and length
> > >>> 9. Fruit size
> >
> > >>> Although some members may find it difficult to provide all details,
> but
> > >>> they should try to give maximum possible information.
> >
> > >>> For better identification the three photographs accompanying should
> be :
> > >>> a side view of branch showing clear view of leaves and flowers.; a
> close up
> > >>> of flower from the side to show bracts, calyx and corolla; a top
> close up of
> > >>> flower to show stamens and style/s.
> >
> > >>> If I will send my first post for ID today the subject line would be:
> >
> > >>> 18072011GS1 Plant(it could also be herb/shrub/tree/climber) for ID
> from
> > >>> Kashmir
> >
> > >>> my second post today for ID would be
> >
> > >>> 18072011GS2 Plant(it could also be herb/shrub/tree/climber) for ID
> from
> > >>> Kashmir
> >
> > >>> and so on
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:09 PM, arun sharma  >wrote:
> >
> >  Could someone please identify this shrub, It has glossy smooth
> >  trifoliate leaves and pink flowers with 5 petals
> >
> >  Thanks
> >
> >  Arun Sharma
> >
> > >>> --
> > >>> Regards
> >
> > >>> Dr Balkar Singh
> > >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > >>> Arya P G College, Panipat
> > >>> Haryana-132103
> > >>> 09416262964
> >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> >
> > > Dr Balkar Singh
> > > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > > Haryana-132103
> > > 09416262964
> >
> > --
> >  - H.S.
> >
> > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
> of
> > stone
>