Re: [efloraofindia:253792] Author citation for Ichnocarpus frutescens

[J.M. Garg]

Most current & widely accepted follow *Ichnocarpus frutescens* (L.)
W.T.Aiton as per the following;
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxonomydetail.aspx?423437
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=102359
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/9a3c0cb0f3815cf88826ace1076b4186

On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Dinesh Valke  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> How would the author citation for *Ichnocarpus frutescens* written ?
>
>1. *Ichnocarpus frutescens* (L.) W.T.Aiton
>2. *Ichnocarpus frutescens* (L.) R. Br.
>3. *Ichnocarpus frutescens* R. Br.
>
> The last among the three, seem to be written widely.
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Re: [efloraofindia:253789] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra:: Wild Flower for ID NSJ-OCT 16/13

[D.S Rawat]

Yes, some *Salvia* species but resemble to any wild species in Uttarakhand.
May be a escape of cultivation.
DSRawat Pantnagar

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On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 11:40 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
> I think a Lamiaceae member.
>
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> Date: 8 October 2016 at 14:28
> Subject: [efloraofindia:253239] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra:: Wild Flower
> for ID NSJ-OCT 16/13
> To: indiantreepix 
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> Dear Members,
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> Wild flowers located at Pithoragad (Uttarakhand) near KMVN Guest house.
> Aug 30, 2016.
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Re: [efloraofindia:253788] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra:: Wild Plant for ID NSJ-OCT 16/12

[D.S Rawat]

Could it be Leucosceptrum canum (Lamiaceae).
Pl compare with L.canum in eFI.


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> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
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> Date: 8 October 2016 at 14:26
> Subject: [efloraofindia:253238] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra:: Wild Plant for
> ID NSJ-OCT 16/12
> To: indiantreepix 
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>
> Dear All,
>
> A shrub around 6 feet tall was located near Gala (Height 8000 feet) Aug
> 29, 2016.
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Re: [efloraofindia:253781] Scrophulariaceae fortnight :: Dopatrium lobelioides along KSH 34 :: DV02

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks very very much Garg ji for your keen eyes. Indeed, I mixed them up
and would not have realized my mistake.
I have corrected my notes in flickr.

Regards.
Dinesh


On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:57 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I think first two images are of Lindernia hyssopoides
> 
>  (and
> not of Dopatrium lobelioides) as per discussion in another thread
> .
> These images are there in FOI site as Dopatrium lobelioides which also
> needs to be corrected.
>
>
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> Date: 16 August 2013 at 05:08
> Subject: [efloraofindia:162843] Scrophulariaceae fortnight :: Dopatrium
> lobelioides along KSH 34 :: DV02
> To: efloraofindia 
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>
> Scrophulariaceae fortnight
> dog flower family
> *Dopatrium lobelioides* (Retz.) Benth. ... also placed in Plantaginaceae
> somewhere along KSH 34 in Dandeli Wildlife Sanctuary on 29 MAY 11
>
> [image: Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth.]
> 
>
> [image: Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth.]
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> [image: Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth.]
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Re: [efloraofindia:253778] TSP-OCT2016-01-438:Images of Habenaria marginata (Orchidaceae)

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Kumar ji, for the wonderful images.

On 6 October 2016 at 19:46, tsp kumar  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
>
>
> Presenting few images of *Habenaria marginata * (Orchidaceae  )
>
> Ref-1: http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/
> herbsheet.php?id=3034&cat=1
>
> Ref-2: http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Golden%
> 20Yellow%20Habenaria.html
>
>
>
> Habit:Herb
>
>
>
> Habitat:Terrestrial,Dry deciduous forest floor
>
>
>
> Sighting:Near Hassan,Karnataka,about 900 msl
>
>
>
> Date:04-10-2016
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards
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[efloraofindia:253778] Names of Plants in India :: Ardisia solanacea Roxb.

[Dinesh Valke]

[image: Inline image 4][image: Inline image 5][image: Inline image 6]

via Species ‎
> ‎A ‎ > ‎
*Ardisia solanacea* Roxb. ... *family*: Primulaceae ~ Myrsinaceae

[image: Ardisia solanacea Roxb.]



[image: Flowers of India]

 [image: Discussions at efloraofindia]

 [image: more views in flickr]

 [image: more views on Google Earth]



*ar-DIZ-ee-uh* -- Latin: *ardis* (a point), referring to the pointed
anthers ... Dave's Botanary

*so-lan-uh-SEE-uh* -- resembling the *Solanum* genus ... Dave's Botanary




*commonly known as*: shoebutton ardisia

, spear flower

 • *Bengali*: বনজাম bonjam

 • *Hindi*: धनप्रिया dhan-priya

 • *Kannada*: ಬೋದಿನಗಿಡ bodinagida

 • *Malayalam*: കാക്കഞാറ kakkanjara

, കോലരക്ക് kolarakku

, കുഴിമുണ്ടൻ kulimundan

, മോളക്ക molakka

 • *Marathi*: बुगडी bugadi

, दिकना dikna

 • *Nepali*: दमाई फल damaai phal

 • *Odia*: ବଣଜାମୁ banajamu

, କାକଜମ୍ବୁ kakajambu

 • *Tamil*: கோழுருச்சி kolurucci

 • *Telugu*: అడవి మయూరి adavi mayuri

, కాశి నేరేడు kaashi neredu

, కొండ మామిడి konda mamidi

, కొండ పొగడ konda pogada

, కొండమయూరము kondamayuramu

, పగడ ములక pagada mulaka

 • *Tulu*: ಬೋದೆ bode




*botanical names*: *Ardisia solanacea* Roxb. ... *synonyms*: *Ardisia
elliptica* auct. non Thunb.: Bedd. • *Ardisia humilis* auct. non Vahl.:
Clarke ... Flora of Pakistan







December 15, 2012 ... Mattighatta Road, Karnataka

Regards.
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:253775] Scrophulariaceae fortnight :: Dopatrium lobelioides along KSH 34 :: DV02

[J.M. Garg]

I think first two images are of Lindernia hyssopoides

(and
not of Dopatrium lobelioides) as per discussion in another thread
.
These images are there in FOI site as Dopatrium lobelioides which also
needs to be corrected.


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From: Dinesh Valke 
Date: 16 August 2013 at 05:08
Subject: [efloraofindia:162843] Scrophulariaceae fortnight :: Dopatrium
lobelioides along KSH 34 :: DV02
To: efloraofindia 


Scrophulariaceae fortnight
dog flower family
*Dopatrium lobelioides* (Retz.) Benth. ... also placed in Plantaginaceae
somewhere along KSH 34 in Dandeli Wildlife Sanctuary on 29 MAY 11

[image: Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth.]


[image: Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth.]


[image: Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth.]

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Fwd: [efloraofindia:253774] 108-TSP-ID-02OCT2016-3: Herb @ Hethoor for ID

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Shrikant ji.

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Date: 16 October 2016 at 10:41
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:252731] 108-TSP-ID-02OCT2016-3: Herb @ Hethoor
for ID
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Yes, there is a lot of similarity in 2 plants. Looking at your plant
carefully it is L. hyssopioides. Reflexed pedicels in fruit is
characteristic to this sp. In flowers, the upper lip is notched and lobes
of lower lip are deeply cut and dentate on margins.
In D lobelioides flowers, upper lip is entire and lower lip is shallowly
cut and is entire on margins of lobes.
Even the IISC site seems to show pics of L hyssopioides against both.
This does happen while identifying plants by mere foto tallying.
Regards

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:42 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
> *Lindernia* *hyssopoides* (L.) Haines
> 
>  -
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/K19PuNKreBg-
> from Santhan ji.
>
>
> Thanks Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan ji...it matches
> Ref:http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.
> php?id=4041&cat=1
> regards
>
> Dopatrium lobelioides. Regards
> Shrikant Ingalhalikar
>
> A slight confusion because of the superficial similarity between Lindernia
> hyssopoides and Dopatria lobeliodes.!? and I am unable to
> differentiate...!
> *Lindernia hyssopoides-* Leaves linear,lanceolate,narrowed to
> base,palmately nerved,Corolla white-pink,stamens 4,anterior filaments
> appendiculate,capsule,
> elongated and deflexed.
> Ref:http:http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbs
> heet.php?id=4041&cat=1
> *Dopatrium lobeliodes- *Leaves radical,mostly crowded at the base of the
> stem,upper opposite,pedicellate,elliptic,oblong,margin entire,apex
> acute,glabrous.Flowers in decussate pairs,calyx lobes obtus,corolla violet
> to deep blue,capsule globose. Flowering Dec-Mar
> Ref:http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.
> php?id=4080&cat=1
> regards
> Tspkumar
>
> If we go by the following, posted plant should be Lindernia hyssopoides
> 
> http://www.eflorakkl.in/Details.php?id=53
> http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustrati
> on=61339&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=
> Herbarium specimen at http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc
> .ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4041&cat=1
>
> Images in efi at/ of Dopatrium lobelioides
> 
>  (also
> in FOI) may also be of Lindernia hyssopoides
> 
>
> -- Forwarded message --
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> Date: 2 October 2016 at 22:34
> Subject: [efloraofindia:252731] 108-TSP-ID-02OCT2016-3: Herb @ Hethoor for
> ID
> To: efloraofindia 
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>
>
> * Dear friends,   Kindly examine and identify this herb.   Habit:Herb
> Habitat:Wild,by the side of Paddy fields   Sighting: Hethoor,near
> Sakaleshpur,Karnataka,about 1000 msl   Date:18-09-2016   Thanks and regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:253772] Desmodium

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Vijay ji.
Pl. check different threads under Desmodium heterocarpon


On 16 October 2016 at 08:37, Dr.vijay paithane 
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> Dear sir, whether any one collected the var, form. Or sub species of
> Desmodium heterocarpon from india
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Re: [efloraofindia:253772] Desmodium

[J.M. Garg]

Also check under: Desmodium heterocarpon ?


On 16 October 2016 at 09:59, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Vijay ji.
> Pl. check different threads under Desmodium heterocarpon
> 
>
> On 16 October 2016 at 08:37, Dr.vijay paithane 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear sir, whether any one collected the var, form. Or sub species of
>> Desmodium heterocarpon from india
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[efloraofindia:253771] Re: SK136OCT07-2016:ID

[J.M. Garg]

*Strobilanthes tomentosa *(Nees) J. R. I. Wood (Syn: *Aechmanthera
tomentosa* Nees in Wallich; *Aechmanthera wallichii* Nees; *Ruellia
gossypina* Wall.; non *Strobilanthes gossypina* T. Anderson; *Aechmanthera
gossypina* (Wall.) Nees; *Aechmanthera wallichii* Nees, nom. illeg.
superfl. var. β *gossypina* (Wall.) Nees subvar. β ** *fomentaria* Nees*;
Aechmanthera wallichii* Nees var. β *gossypina* (Wall.) Nees subvar. β *
*leuconeura* Nees; *Aechmanthera tomentosa* var. *wallichii* C. B.
Clarke; *Aechmanthera
leiosperma* C. B. Clarke; *Strobilanthes bodinieri* H. Lév.; *Strobilanthes
blinii* H. Lév.; *Strobilanthes cavaleriei* H. Lév.;* Aechmanthera claudiae*
Bernardi) as per New and little-known species of Strobilanthes
(Acanthaceae) from India and South East Asia

by
J. R. I. Wood & R. W. Scotland- KEW BULLETIN VOL. 64: 3–47 (2009);

On 16 October 2016 at 01:30, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Dear Mr. Wood,
>
> Thank you for the ID.
>
> Is it
> [image: 1 literature reference for Aechmanthera claudiae Bernardi]
> 
> *Aechmanthera gossypina* (Nees) Nees (synonym) as listed in Nepal?
>
> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=131740
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:58 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Dr. Wood.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: John Wood
>> Date: 15 October 2016 at 22:32
>> Subject: Re: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
>> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>>
>>
>> This is Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J.R.I.Wood - the photos show only
>> of a part of the inflorescence so it doesn't really look typical but the
>> corolla looks good for this species.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> John Wood
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* J.M. Garg 
>> *Sent:* 14 October 2016 13:46
>> *To:* efloraofindia
>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju
>> *Subject:* Fwd: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
>>
>>
>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: 7 October 2016 at 23:44
>> Subject: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>>
>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Hattiban Kathmandu Nepal on 5
>> October 2014 at 5200 ft .
>>
>> Strobilanthes ???
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> J.M.Garg
>>
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>> 
>>
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Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:253770] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Saussurea inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji.
Pl. check it is there:
The Plant List Ver. 1.1

Flora of China



On 16 October 2016 at 04:47, C CHADWELL 
wrote:

> Pleased to learn of this.  But *Saussurea glacialis* is not on 'The Plant
> List' as an accepted name.  Nor is
> the synonym in the link.  *Can you say which species it is included under
> in 'The Plant List'?*
>
> *Saussurea remains a difficult genus with frequent mix-ups.  May I request
> (and this applies for every plant of*
> *every genus) that photographers take more than just one general shot
> (covering the plant's habit and flowers).*
> *It is so helpful for reliably identifying plants to have close-ups of
> various parts of the flowers (or flower-heads in the*
> *case of Saussurea) not forgetting close-ups of leaves (both upper and
> lower surface) plus a habitat shot or two. Nowadays *
> *I am to take a minimum of 10-20 images per plant.  I appreciated it is
> demanding to do this at the highest altitudes esp.*
> *4000-5000m but with practise one speeds up and gets into doing this
> automatically.*
>
> *It is often so much harder to attempt to name a plant from a single
> image, which at times does not show the important details.*
> *Yes, it is possible to do this is many cases but other times it becomes
> very difficult - and for others, using such images, it*
> *does not help much when distinguishing between closely-related species.
> Often the images in 'Flowers of the Himalaya' e.g.*
> *though good enough when published in the early 1980s (and only economic
> to printed a single image per species), with the*
> *aid of digital photography and web-sites, we need to be aiming to have,
> at the least, several images for each species.*
>
> *At times we are trying to do the impossible with images which do not show
> the characteristics we need to see to be confident*
> *as to identifications.   And we need images of a species from a number of
> locations, which help to illustrate intra-specific variation,*
> *helping us not to think something belongs to a different species
> altogether or mistakenly that it is "new to science".*
>
> I went through Stewart again and see that *S.glacialis* Herder was given
> as a synonym for *S.chthonocephala* Bornm. - recorded from Chitral but
> not Ladakh.  It was said to be near *S.thomsonii* Clarke.
>
> As for *S.thomsonii* this was recorded from Nubra & Tibet, described as
> dwarf, stemless, coriaceous, heads small, congested. Like a dwarf
> *S.atkiinsonii* - which was recorded as common on alpine meadows in
> Kashmir.
>
> I note that Dickore & Klimes record *S.glacialis* from Ladakh.
>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Chris Chadwell
>
>
> 81 Parlaunt Road
> SLOUGH
> SL3 8BE
> UK
>
> www.shpa.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* J.M. Garg 
> *To:* efloraofindia 
> *Cc:* D.S Rawat ;
> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com; Narendra Joshi 
> *Sent:* Saturday, 15 October 2016, 16:18
> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:253131] Kailash-Manasarovar
> Yatra::Saussurea inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11
>
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
> Interesting Saussurea species. A trans-Himalayan one as I suppose.
> S. inversa is not known in Uttarakhand.
> DSRawat Pantnagar
>
> This is a new 'species' for me but I am doubtful it is *S.inversa* on the
> basis of the image taken in Paddar Valley named as such on the FOI site
> see: http://www.flowersofindia.net/ catalog/slides/Inverse%20Snow%
> 20Lotus.html
> 
> which is presumably where the provisional name came from matching with?
> Not recorded from Ladakh or known in Stewart's day (assuming it is found in
> W.Himalaya).  Not in 'Enumeration of Flowering Plants of Nepal'.  Many
> 'new' species have been described in the Himalaya in recent decades - a
> complicated genus (like so many).
>
> As for existing species, there is much confusion between *S.simpsoniana*
> and *S.gossypiphora* in the W.Himalaya.
>
> As two of our members named the image on the FOI site they are in a much
> better position to comment further, especially as I do not recognise these
> images or the one from the Paddar Valley but the images do not come close
> to me.
>
> Just noticed that an article on Research Gate, see: 
> https://www.researchgate.net/
> publication/272383552_The_ genus_Saussurea_Compositae_
> Cardueae_in_China_Taxonomic_ and_nomenclatural_notes
> 
> states that *S.sorocephala* var. glabrata is raised to specific rank as
> *S.inversa*.  Stewart had *S.sorocephala* Schrenk as a synonym of
> *S.gnaphalodes* (which is common in Laadkh); he thought this variety
> seemed to be the same as *S.hypsipeta* Diels (yet does not list this
> s

[efloraofindia:253769] Desmodium

[Dr.vijay paithane]

Dear sir, whether any one collected the var, form. Or sub species of Desmodium 
heterocarpon from india 

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[efloraofindia:253767] Re: SK116SEP29-2016:ID

[C CHADWELL]

OK.  Scents/smells can be so important in confirming identifications in 
Apiaceae (Umbelliferae)but without views of foliage and close-ups of mature 
fruits then difficult to do more than speculate. 

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: Saroj Kasaju 
 To: J.M. Garg  
Cc: efloraofindia ; C CHADWELL 

 Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2016, 17:28
 Subject: Re: SK116SEP29-2016:ID
   
Dear all,
I just remembered the scent was  something like Cumin, I guess it may be Carum 
carvi Linnaeus, Sp.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200015475

Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

Sorry ! Could not!
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 4:16 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.Some earlier relevant feedback:   
  
| Would have helped to be able to see foliage, particularly at base.  "Saunf" 
(Foeniculum vulgare) is cultivated on the plains to 2100m but not in Ladakh - I 
do not think there is a wild equivalent here.  Likewise "Jeera" (Cyminum 
cymium) is sparingly cultivated in gardens at lower levels but not Ladakh.  
Again, I do not know of a wild equivalent.
It is certainly Apiaceae (formerly Umbelliferae) family.  I am speculating a 
bit but wonder about Carum carvi ('Caraway') which is very common in damp 
places in Ladakh to 4200m.  Occurs in W.Himalaya as forma gracile.  Can anyone 
confirm this or suggest different?  Apiaceae are often not easy to be sure 
about. -From Chadwell ji.  |
|  Some Trachyspermum ?? - from Saroj ji.  |
|  I think does not match with images of Carum carvi as per images 
hereinAppears close to flowers of  Trachyspermum species as per images herein.
Pl. also check with comparative images at ‎Apiaceae   |


-- Forwarded message --
From: Saroj Kasaju 
Date: 29 September 2016 at 20:00
Subject: SK116SEP29-2016:ID
To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" 



Dear Members,
Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Nubra Valley on 21 August 2016.
Is it some sort of wild Jeera or Saunf??
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju


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Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:253767] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Saussurea inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11

[C CHADWELL]

Pleased to learn of this.  But Saussurea glacialis is not on 'The Plant List' 
as an accepted name.  Nor isthe synonym in the link.  Can you say which species 
it is included under in 'The Plant List'?
Saussurea remains a difficult genus with frequent mix-ups.  May I request (and 
this applies for every plant ofevery genus) that photographers take more than 
just one general shot (covering the plant's habit and flowers).It is so helpful 
for reliably identifying plants to have close-ups of various parts of the 
flowers (or flower-heads in thecase of Saussurea) not forgetting close-ups of 
leaves (both upper and lower surface) plus a habitat shot or two. Nowadays I am 
to take a minimum of 10-20 images per plant.  I appreciated it is demanding to 
do this at the highest altitudes esp.4000-5000m but with practise one speeds up 
and gets into doing this automatically.
It is often so much harder to attempt to name a plant from a single image, 
which at times does not show the important details.Yes, it is possible to do 
this is many cases but other times it becomes very difficult - and for others, 
using such images, itdoes not help much when distinguishing between 
closely-related species.  Often the images in 'Flowers of the Himalaya' 
e.g.though good enough when published in the early 1980s (and only economic to 
printed a single image per species), with theaid of digital photography and 
web-sites, we need to be aiming to have, at the least, several images for each 
species.
At times we are trying to do the impossible with images which do not show the 
characteristics we need to see to be confidentas to identifications.   And we 
need images of a species from a number of locations, which help to illustrate 
intra-specific variation,helping us not to think something belongs to a 
different species altogether or mistakenly that it is "new to science".
I went through Stewart again and see that S.glacialis Herder was given as a 
synonym for S.chthonocephala Bornm. - recorded from Chitral but not Ladakh.  It 
was said to be near S.thomsonii Clarke.
As for S.thomsonii this was recorded from Nubra & Tibet, described as dwarf, 
stemless, coriaceous, heads small, congested. Like a dwarf S.atkiinsonii - 
which was recorded as common on alpine meadows in Kashmir.
I note that Dickore & Klimes record S.glacialis from Ladakh.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: J.M. Garg 
 To: efloraofindia  
Cc: D.S Rawat ; chrischadwell...@btinternet.com; 
Narendra Joshi 
 Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2016, 16:18
 Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:253131] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Saussurea 
inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11
   
Forwarding again for Id assistance please.Some earlier relevant feedback:   
  
|  Interesting Saussurea species. A trans-Himalayan one as I suppose.
S. inversa is not known in Uttarakhand.
DSRawat Pantnagar   |
|   This is a new 'species' for me but I am doubtful it is S.inversa on the 
basis of the image taken in Paddar Valley named as such on the FOI site see: 
http://www.flowersofindia.net/ catalog/slides/Inverse%20Snow% 20Lotus.html  
which is presumably where the provisional name came from matching with?  Not 
recorded from Ladakh or known in Stewart's day (assuming it is found in 
W.Himalaya).  Not in 'Enumeration of Flowering Plants of Nepal'.  Many 'new' 
species have been described in the Himalaya in recent decades - a complicated 
genus (like so many).  
As for existing species, there is much confusion between S.simpsoniana and 
S.gossypiphora in the W.Himalaya.  
As two of our members named the image on the FOI site they are in a much better 
position to comment further, especially as I do not recognise these images or 
the one from the Paddar Valley but the images do not come close to me.
Just noticed that an article on Research Gate, see: 
https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/272383552_The_ 
genus_Saussurea_Compositae_ Cardueae_in_China_Taxonomic_ 
and_nomenclatural_notes  states that S.sorocephala var. glabrata is raised to 
specific rank as S.inversa.  Stewart had S.sorocephala Schrenk as a synonym of 
S.gnaphalodes (which is common in Laadkh); he thought this variety seemed to be 
the same as S.hypsipeta Diels (yet does not list this species in his Catalogue) 
and probably should be considered only to be a glabrate form.   Saussurea 
hypsipeta is listed by Dickore & Klimes from Ladakh - there is an excellent 
image of it by our member Miroslav: http://www.butbn.cas.cz/ 
ladakh/fotky/flora/subnival_ eng.html.
Clearly, Miroslav may be able to comment in a more informed way than me. --- 
from Chris Chadwell ji.  |
|  To me it appears close to Saussurea glacialis Herder as per image herein.   |


-- Forwarded message --
From: Narendra Joshi 
Date: 6 October 2016 at 22:48
Subject: [efloraofindia:253131] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Saussurea inversa 
NSJ-OCT 16/11
To: indiantreepix 


Dear All,

Saussurea inversa for validation. 

[efloraofindia:253765] Re: SK136OCT07-2016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Wood,

Thank you for the ID.

Is it
[image: 1 literature reference for Aechmanthera claudiae Bernardi]

*Aechmanthera gossypina* (Nees) Nees (synonym) as listed in Nepal?

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=131740

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:58 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Dr. Wood.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: John Wood
> Date: 15 October 2016 at 22:32
> Subject: Re: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
> This is Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J.R.I.Wood - the photos show only
> of a part of the inflorescence so it doesn't really look typical but the
> corolla looks good for this species.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> John Wood
>
>
> --
> *From:* J.M. Garg 
> *Sent:* 14 October 2016 13:46
> *To:* efloraofindia
> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju
> *Subject:* Fwd: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
>
>
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Saroj Kasaju 
> Date: 7 October 2016 at 23:44
> Subject: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
> jmga...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear Members,
>
>
> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Hattiban Kathmandu Nepal on 5 October
> 2014 at 5200 ft .
>
> Strobilanthes ???
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> 
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
> .
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>  (largest in the
> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
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[efloraofindia:253764] Re: SK127OCT042016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200015780

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Guess  is it matching with *Pimpinella diversifolia *DC. (accepted name)
>  ???
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:15 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Pl. check comparative images at Apiaceae
>>  if
>> you can find a match.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: 4 October 2016 at 20:03
>> Subject: SK127OCT042016:ID
>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at the Chandragiri Hill Kathmandu on
>> 19 September 2016 at 8200 ft.
>>
>> Apiaceae ??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>>
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[efloraofindia:253763] Re: SK127OCT042016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Guess  is it matching with *Pimpinella diversifolia *DC. (accepted name)
 ???

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:15 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Pl. check comparative images at Apiaceae
>  if
> you can find a match.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
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> Date: 4 October 2016 at 20:03
> Subject: SK127OCT042016:ID
> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
> jmga...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at the Chandragiri Hill Kathmandu on 19
> September 2016 at 8200 ft.
>
> Apiaceae ??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:253762] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp. for Id.

[M Sawmliana]

Is it S.capitatus ?

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Dr. Wood.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: John Wood
> Date: 15 October 2016 at 22:43
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:253120] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp. for
> Id.
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
> Looks like a species of Strobilanthes but not enough information to
> identify _ I can't the habit, leaves or inflorescence structure. More
> photos of these are necessary.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> John Wood
>
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> *Sent:* 14 October 2016 12:04
> *To:* efloraofindia
> *Cc:* M Sawmliana
> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:253120] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp.
> for Id.
>
>
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
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> From: M Sawmliana 
> Date: 6 October 2016 at 19:23
> Subject: [efloraofindia:253120] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp. for Id.
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Location : Hualtu, Mizoram
> Date : Nov, 2013
> Habit : Small shrub
> Habitat : Wild
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:253759] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp. for Id.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Wood
Date: 15 October 2016 at 22:43
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:253120] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp. for Id.
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Looks like a species of Strobilanthes but not enough information to
identify _ I can't the habit, leaves or inflorescence structure. More
photos of these are necessary.


Regards


John Wood


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*Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:253120] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp. for
Id.


Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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From: M Sawmliana 
Date: 6 October 2016 at 19:23
Subject: [efloraofindia:253120] MS Oct.2016/10 Strobilanthes sp. for Id.
To: efloraofindia 


Location : Hualtu, Mizoram
Date : Nov, 2013
Habit : Small shrub
Habitat : Wild


Regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:253759] MS Oct. 2016/13 Impatiens sp. for ID

['Wojciech Adamowski' via efloraofindia]

Looks similar to Impatiens mengtszeana, however leaves are less 
acuminate...Good side view of flower could help.Best regards                  
Wojciech 

18:20 sobota, 2016-10-15, J.M. Garg  napisał(a):
 

 Thanks, Sawmliana ji.Pl. see comparative images at Impatiens 
On 15 October 2016 at 21:45, M Sawmliana  wrote:

Location : Kepran, Mizoram
Altitude : ca. 1,200 m.
Date : 05/11/2015
Habit : Herb
Habitat : Wild


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Fwd: [efloraofindia:253759] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Strobilanthes atropurpureus NSJ-OCT 16/08

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Wood
Date: 15 October 2016 at 22:40
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:253128] Kailash-Manasarovar
Yatra::Strobilanthes atropurpureus NSJ-OCT 16/08
To: "J.M. Garg" 


This is Strobilanthes bracteata (Nees) J.R.I.Wood and is the first photo I
have seen of this species. It looks like Ipomoea pentstemonoides  (Not at
all like S. atropurpurea) but differs in the pubescent corolla (easily
visible), pubescent bracts (I can't really see the hairs but I think they
are there) and the subequal leaves. I would be grateful for a more precise
location if possible.


Regards


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*Sent:* 14 October 2016 12:22
*To:* efloraofindia
*Cc:* Narendra Joshi
*Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:253128] Kailash-Manasarovar
Yatra::Strobilanthes atropurpureus NSJ-OCT 16/08

I do not think it matches with images at *Strobilanthes atropurpureus* Nees


Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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From: Narendra Joshi 
Date: 6 October 2016 at 22:25
Subject: [efloraofindia:253128] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Strobilanthes
atropurpureus NSJ-OCT 16/08
To: indiantreepix 


Dear Members,

Strobilanthes atropurpureus for validation. Photo taken on the way to Gala
from Sirkha (Uttarakhand) on Aug 14, 2016, height approx. 8000 feet.

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Fwd: [efloraofindia:253756] MS Oct.2016/11 Strobilanthes sp. for id

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Wood
Date: 15 October 2016 at 22:40
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:253121] MS Oct.2016/11 Strobilanthes sp. for id
To: "J.M. Garg" 


This is a species of Gesneriaceae and I am afraid I don't know these.


Regards


John Wood


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*Sent:* 14 October 2016 12:11
*To:* efloraofindia
*Cc:* M Sawmliana
*Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:253121] MS Oct.2016/11 Strobilanthes sp. for
id

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
This does not appear to be Strobilanthes sp.
Pl. check Didymocarpus

species in efi.

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From: M Sawmliana 
Date: 6 October 2016 at 19:28
Subject: [efloraofindia:253121] MS Oct.2016/11 Strobilanthes sp. for id
To: efloraofindia 


Location : Hmunpui, Mizoram
Date : 23/07/2015
Habit : Herb ?
Habitat : Wild


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[efloraofindia:253756] Fwd: SK136OCT07-2016:ID

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Wood
Date: 15 October 2016 at 22:32
Subject: Re: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
To: "J.M. Garg" 


This is Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J.R.I.Wood - the photos show only of
a part of the inflorescence so it doesn't really look typical but the
corolla looks good for this species.


Regards


John Wood


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*Sent:* 14 October 2016 13:46
*To:* efloraofindia
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*Subject:* Fwd: SK136OCT07-2016:ID


Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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From: Saroj Kasaju 
Date: 7 October 2016 at 23:44
Subject: SK136OCT07-2016:ID
To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
jmga...@gmail.com>


Dear Members,


Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Hattiban Kathmandu Nepal on 5 October
2014 at 5200 ft .

Strobilanthes ???

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju




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[efloraofindia:253755] Re: SK116SEP29-2016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all,

I just remembered the scent was  something like Cumin,
I guess it may be *Carum carvi* Linnaeus, Sp.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200015475

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Saroj Kasaju 
wrote:

> Sorry ! Could not!
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 4:16 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>> Would have helped to be able to see foliage, particularly at base.
>> "Saunf" (Foeniculum vulgare) is cultivated on the plains to 2100m but not
>> in Ladakh - I do not think there is a wild equivalent here.  Likewise
>> "Jeera" (Cyminum cymium) is sparingly cultivated in gardens at lower levels
>> but not Ladakh.  Again, I do not know of a wild equivalent.
>>
>> It is certainly Apiaceae (formerly Umbelliferae) family.  I am
>> speculating a bit but wonder about *Carum carvi* ('Caraway') which is
>> very common in damp places in Ladakh to 4200m.  Occurs in W.Himalaya as
>> forma *gracile*.  *Can anyone confirm this or suggest different?
>> Apiaceae are often not easy to be sure about.*
>> -
>> From Chadwell ji.
>>
>> Some Trachyspermum ?? - from Saroj ji.
>> I think does not match with images of Carum carvi
>> 
>>  as
>> per images herein
>> Appears close to flowers of  Trachyspermum
>> 
>>  species
>> as per images herein.
>>
>> Pl. also check with comparative images at *‎**Apiaceae*
>> 
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: 29 September 2016 at 20:00
>> Subject: SK116SEP29-2016:ID
>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Nubra Valley on 21 August 2016.
>>
>> Is it some sort of wild Jeera or Saunf??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:253754] MS Oct. 2016/13 Impatiens sp. for ID

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji.

Pl. see comparative images at Impatiens


On 15 October 2016 at 21:45, M Sawmliana  wrote:

> Location : Kepran, Mizoram
> Altitude : ca. 1,200 m.
> Date : 05/11/2015
> Habit : Herb
> Habitat : Wild
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[efloraofindia:253752] Re: completed insertion of images of Magnolia species

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Bhagyashri ji.

On 15 October 2016 at 20:55, Bhagyashri  wrote:

> Garg ji,
> Some species were already done by Sandhya ji and TSP Kumar ji. Also I have
> not inserted images for species not found in India
> -
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Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:253751] ID Request- 190512-PKA1

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Jui ji.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jui Pethe
Date: 15 October 2016 at 21:23
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:116994] ID Request- 190512-PKA1
To: "J. M. Garg" 


Looks like an acanthaceae member. Possibly lepidagathis sp.
Thanks and regards
Jui Pethe

On 15-Oct-2016 7:45 pm, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: jmgarg1 
> Date: 27 May 2012 at 14:25
> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:116994] ID Request- 190512-PKA1
> To: efloraofindia 
> Cc:
>
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “what's the scale? ie  how large is each of these green units?
>
> carpeting,  moss like spread, not that i am suggesting the diagnosis
> usha di”
>
>
>
> “*Looks like some species of Cyanotis* they I cannot say for sure” from
> Chitra ji.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Prashant Awale 
> Date: 19 May 2012 13:32
> Subject: [efloraofindia:116994] ID Request- 190512-PKA1
> To: indiantreepix 
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Seen this small prostrate herb near a lake at Nagpur.
>
> Date/Time: 03-05-2012 / 07:30AM
>
> Location: Ambazari lake, Nagpur
>
> Plant Habit: Herb
>
> Habitat: Wild
>
> Regards
> Prashant
>
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[efloraofindia:253750] Re: Quercus oblongata D.Don.

[Saroj Kasaju]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiMpqeZjN3PAhXBRo8KHQm3BSwQjxwIAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLista_gatunk%25C3%25B3w_z_rodzaju_d%25C4%2585b&psig=AFQjCNFYcKIBdJdi9sLf6pTi0xsMqkkrTg&ust=1476630411186364

Quercus serrata  ?? but not listed in Nepal !

Most of the fruits look alike . Very difficult for me to ID correctly.



On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:38 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> Fruits seem to differ from images at Quercus oblongata
> 
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Saroj Kasaju 
> Date: 4 October 2016 at 22:00
> Subject: Quercus oblongata D.Don.
> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
> jmga...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Sharing some pictures I guess is  Quercus oblongata D.Don. syn:  *Quercus
> leucotrichophora* A.Camus shot at Jitpurphedi Kathmandu on 27 August 2016
> at 6200 ft.
>
> If correct ID Nepali names would be :
>
> तिखे बाँझ Tikhe Baanjh /  बाँझी Baanjhi / खसरांत Khasaraant
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
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[efloraofindia:253748] Re: SK128OCT05-2016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you all!

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:28 AM, M Swamy  wrote:

> *Plumbago* species.  Could be* P. auriculata*.
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 6:22 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: 5 October 2016 at 13:21
>> Subject: SK128OCT05-2016:ID
>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear members,
>>
>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Lal Bagh Bangalore on 6 September
>> 2015.
>>
>> Thank you.
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Re: [efloraofindia:253747] For identification.

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Dr. Dinesh Shirodkar tells that this is not Flacourtia but Scolopia.

On Oct 14, 2016 14:01, "Tapas Chakrabarty"  wrote:

> 1a.
>
> Petals present
> 2
>
>   b.
>
> Petals absent
> 4
>
> 2a.
>
> Flowers unisexual; petals with a scale at base inside  *4. Hydnocarpus*
>
>   b.
>
> Flowers bisexual; petals without scale at base
> inside3
>
> 3a.
>
> Trees, armed; leaves 3 - 5-plinerved at base; stamens many; fruits fleshy
> berries   *5.
> Scolopia*
>
>   b.
>
> Trees unarmed; leaves pinnately veined; stamens 4-6; fruits dry
> capsules
>*3. Homalium*
>
> 4a.
>
> Flowers unisexual (plants usually dioecious); stamens numerous; fruits
> fleshy, indehiscent, baccate*2.*
> *Flacourtia*
>
>   b.
>
> Flowers bisexual; stamens 8-10; fruits capsular*1.*
> *Casearia*
>
> If petals are present then Scolopia, if absent then Flacourtia.  The
> characters of the leaves suggest Flacourtia and if so then F. indica. This
> is however a suggestion only.
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:48 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Jayanthi Janakiraman
>> Date: 14 October 2016 at 11:18
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:251965] For identification.
>> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>>
>>
>> *Could be Scolopia crenata (Wight & Arn.) Clos - Flacourtiaceae*
>>
>> with regards
>> j.jayanthi
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:02 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> Likely to be Flacourtia indica - from Arun ji
>>>
>>>
>>> efi page on Flacourtia indica
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> *Flacourtia indica* has red fruits? I doubt this to be a some *Maytenus*
>>> sp. - from Muthu ji
>>>
>>> Gymnosporia
>>> 
>>>  &
>>> Maytenus
>>> 
>>>  species
>>> in efi so far.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Savinaya Malve savimalve 
>>> Date: 23 September 2016 at 17:42
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:251965] For identification.
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>>
>>>
>>> Please help with id of this shrub species.
>>> Simple alternate, spines are present, captured at theerthalli taluk of
>>> Shivamogga district, Karnataka(July2016)
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[efloraofindia:253746] Re: SK130OCT05-2016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you all

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 5:53 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: M Swamy 
> Date: 15 October 2016 at 17:08
> Subject: Re: SK130OCT05-2016:ID
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
> Yes Garg ji.
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:21 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Mahadeswara ji.
>> But it should be *Megaskepasma erythrochlamys *
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: M Swamy 
>> Date: 15 October 2016 at 10:24
>> Subject: Re: SK130OCT05-2016:ID
>> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>>
>>
>> For me ID by Garg ji is correct.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 6:32 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Pl. check comparative images of Justicia
>>> 
>>> Can it be *Justicia brandegeeana* Wassh. & L.B.Sm.
>>> 
>>>  ?
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>>> Date: 5 October 2016 at 13:31
>>> Subject: SK130OCT05-2016:ID
>>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear members,
>>>
>>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Lal Bagh Bangalore on 6 September
>>> 2015.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> .
>>
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>  (largest in the
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>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>  of more than a
>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> 
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
> .
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
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>
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> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
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[efloraofindia:253743] Fwd: SK126OCT042016:ID

[J.M. Garg]

-- Forwarded message --
From: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com 
Date: 15 October 2016 at 18:56
Subject: Re: SK126OCT042016:ID
To: efloraofindia 
Cc: jmga...@gmail.com


Yet more to say and try to explain about the challenges involved in
*attempting* to identify *Berberis.*


Whilst preparing my previous comments I was concentrating upon  information
about Nepal/E.Himalaya as the two suggested species are not known from
*W.Himalaya.*

However, the observations of Jafri (then Herbarium, University of Karachi)
who revised Berberidaceae for 'Flora of Pakistan' are worth sharing here (I
have a copy of this booklet - what is available on the internet on
efloraofPakistan is only a fraction of the original details.

"*A difficult genus due to variable nature of its many species, probably
affected by environment and hybridization.  Overlapping of characters,
especially in leaves, stem colour, flower and berry size etc. are not
lacking in our several closely related species.  Leaf texture, serrations
etc, are said to vary from season to season and with the age of the plant
in some of our species [observation of Parker]. Fruits may be red when
immature but turn black or dark-blue with maturity.  Gregarious or sporadic
distribution, evergreen or deciduous habit, fruit colour etc. cannot be
ascertained from a dried herbarium specimen unless comprehensive fielkd
notes are provided.  Among our species... need experimental studies.
Ahrendt made comprehensive studies on the genus in several cases but he had
very few specimens from our area.  No doubt he compared herbarium specimens
and any living ones grown at Kew and other places but still some of our
species, described by him, are based on a single specimen.  From the small
number of herbarium specimens at my disposal, I find quite a number of
intergrading forms between some of the species.  Looking into the range of
variation the descriptions provided by Ahrendt for some of our species are
quite inadequate".*

*May I add that much of what he said applies to many different genera in
the Himalaya.  Previous authors often had few, often poor quality
specimens, frequently with no field notes at all.  I feel I must comment
that the quality of collection of pressed specimens for India herbaria
needs to improve for all genera.  This has resulted often in scrappy,
poorly pressed & dried specimens, usually only a single one for smaller
specimens when several should have been gathered to fill a herbarium sheet
they would ultimately be attached to.  And field notes are generally
exceedingly poor to non-existent.  This results in the reference material
in Indian herbaria frequently being inadequate.  Even if correctly
identified, only having such scraps means it is very difficult to then
compare with fresh material.  I return to my approach to plant
identification being akin to detective work - the fewer clues/supporting
evidence, the harder the task, making it more difficult to have confidence
in the ultimate objective of accurate and reliable identifications.*

*Modern-day digital cameras have the potential to help transform the
situation provided they are utilised methodically and carefully, with
quality close-ups of the essential parts of the plant.  The traditional
photos (in pre-digital days) of 1 at most two general images of the "pretty
bits" are often inadequate to identify a plant with confidence - which is
why most herbarium taxonomists declined the opportunity to attempt to
identify plants from slides in the 1980s-1990s.   Nowadays, certain
specialists rightly consider pressed specimens remain essential  but these
combined with the best of what digital photography can offer is a way
forward.  Likewise their is a need for specialists to observe living
material (whether in the wild or cultivation). As I shall continue to
repeat the Nagoya Protocol (no matter its good intentions) will damage the
study of plants and efforts to reliably identify plants.*

*AND UNLESS ONE CAN RELIABLY IDENTIFY PLANTS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CORRECTLY
ASSESS THEIR RARITY OR ABUNDANCE IN THE WILD - surely what limited
resources exist SHOULD be focussed on the plant species which are GENUINELY
rare.  Not those which are claimed to be 'Rare & Endangered' when they are
not...*

*One of the many reasons this google group and the efforts of Mr Garg
should be actively supported is the objective of improving the level and
consistency of identification of Indian plants.  The involvement of both
those who hold professional positions in the field of botany (not all of
them are involved directly in plant identification), those with botanical
training (though holding a degree in botany, as was the case in the UK
where nowadays no traditional botany degree courses exist, was never a
guarantee one knew how to identify plants) combined with interested
amateurs can achieve much. In the UK we have a fine tradition, through the
BSBI (now the Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland) of a vast amo

[efloraofindia:253742] Re: SK126OCT042016:ID

[chrischadwell...@btinternet.com]

Yet more to say and try to explain about the challenges involved in 
*attempting* to identify *Berberis.*


Whilst preparing my previous comments I was concentrating upon  information 
about Nepal/E.Himalaya as the two suggested species are not known from 
*W.Himalaya.*

However, the observations of Jafri (then Herbarium, University of Karachi) 
who revised Berberidaceae for 'Flora of Pakistan' are worth sharing here (I 
have a copy of this booklet - what is available on the internet on 
efloraofPakistan is only a fraction of the original details.

"*A difficult genus due to variable nature of its many species, probably 
affected by environment and hybridization.  Overlapping of characters, 
especially in leaves, stem colour, flower and berry size etc. are not 
lacking in our several closely related species.  Leaf texture, serrations 
etc, are said to vary from season to season and with the age of the plant 
in some of our species [observation of Parker]. Fruits may be red when 
immature but turn black or dark-blue with maturity.  Gregarious or sporadic 
distribution, evergreen or deciduous habit, fruit colour etc. cannot be 
ascertained from a dried herbarium specimen unless comprehensive fielkd 
notes are provided.  Among our species... need experimental studies.  
Ahrendt made comprehensive studies on the genus in several cases but he had 
very few specimens from our area.  No doubt he compared herbarium specimens 
and any living ones grown at Kew and other places but still some of our 
species, described by him, are based on a single specimen.  From the small 
number of herbarium specimens at my disposal, I find quite a number of 
intergrading forms between some of the species.  Looking into the range of 
variation the descriptions provided by Ahrendt for some of our species are 
quite inadequate".*

*May I add that much of what he said applies to many different genera in 
the Himalaya.  Previous authors often had few, often poor quality 
specimens, frequently with no field notes at all.  I feel I must comment 
that the quality of collection of pressed specimens for India herbaria 
needs to improve for all genera.  This has resulted often in scrappy, 
poorly pressed & dried specimens, usually only a single one for smaller 
specimens when several should have been gathered to fill a herbarium sheet 
they would ultimately be attached to.  And field notes are generally 
exceedingly poor to non-existent.  This results in the reference material 
in Indian herbaria frequently being inadequate.  Even if correctly 
identified, only having such scraps means it is very difficult to then 
compare with fresh material.  I return to my approach to plant 
identification being akin to detective work - the fewer clues/supporting 
evidence, the harder the task, making it more difficult to have confidence 
in the ultimate objective of accurate and reliable identifications.*

*Modern-day digital cameras have the potential to help transform the 
situation provided they are utilised methodically and carefully, with 
quality close-ups of the essential parts of the plant.  The traditional 
photos (in pre-digital days) of 1 at most two general images of the "pretty 
bits" are often inadequate to identify a plant with confidence - which is 
why most herbarium taxonomists declined the opportunity to attempt to 
identify plants from slides in the 1980s-1990s.   Nowadays, certain 
specialists rightly consider pressed specimens remain essential  but these 
combined with the best of what digital photography can offer is a way 
forward.  Likewise their is a need for specialists to observe living 
material (whether in the wild or cultivation). As I shall continue to 
repeat the Nagoya Protocol (no matter its good intentions) will damage the 
study of plants and efforts to reliably identify plants.*

*AND UNLESS ONE CAN RELIABLY IDENTIFY PLANTS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CORRECTLY 
ASSESS THEIR RARITY OR ABUNDANCE IN THE WILD - surely what limited 
resources exist SHOULD be focussed on the plant species which are GENUINELY 
rare.  Not those which are claimed to be 'Rare & Endangered' when they are 
not...*

*One of the many reasons this google group and the efforts of Mr Garg 
should be actively supported is the objective of improving the level and 
consistency of identification of Indian plants.  The involvement of both 
those who hold professional positions in the field of botany (not all of 
them are involved directly in plant identification), those with botanical 
training (though holding a degree in botany, as was the case in the UK 
where nowadays no traditional botany degree courses exist, was never a 
guarantee one knew how to identify plants) combined with interested 
amateurs can achieve much. In the UK we have a fine tradition, through the 
BSBI (now the Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland) of a vast amount of 
field studies have been undertaken through a combination of professionals 
and amateurs (many of whom were of pro

[efloraofindia:253741] Fwd: SK130OCT05-2016:ID

[J.M. Garg]

-- Forwarded message --
From: M Swamy 
Date: 15 October 2016 at 17:08
Subject: Re: SK130OCT05-2016:ID
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Yes Garg ji.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:21 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Mahadeswara ji.
> But it should be *Megaskepasma erythrochlamys *
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: M Swamy 
> Date: 15 October 2016 at 10:24
> Subject: Re: SK130OCT05-2016:ID
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
> For me ID by Garg ji is correct.
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 6:32 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Pl. check comparative images of Justicia
>> 
>> Can it be *Justicia brandegeeana* Wassh. & L.B.Sm.
>> 
>>  ?
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: 5 October 2016 at 13:31
>> Subject: SK130OCT05-2016:ID
>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear members,
>>
>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Lal Bagh Bangalore on 6 September
>> 2015.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> 
>>
>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>> .
>>
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>  (largest in the
>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
>> website  (with a species
>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>  of more than a
>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> 
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
> .
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
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> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
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>
> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>  of more than a
> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>
> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> India'.
>




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[efloraofindia:253740] An enquiry

[Promila Chaturvedi]

Friends,
I need your help. I want to know which year the Neelgiri flower-
Strobitanthes kunthiana has to bloom? Is it blooming this year? If yes,
then how long the Valley will be painted blue by this flower? And will it
be blooming this time of the year and can I see the boom now and where?
If some one can help me in this regard I will be grateful.
With regards,
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[efloraofindia:253736] ‎Torenia (‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎Linderniaceae) page with images of species in efloraofindia

[J.M. Garg]

 Dear members,

Pl. go through *‎**Torenia*

 (*‎‎Linderniaceae
*)
page with images of species (done by Bhagyashri Ranade ji) in
efloraofindia.

If you find any incorrect identification, pl. let us know. If anybody can
send images of other species of this genera (for incorporation in the
website), if any, it will be really nice.
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[efloraofindia:253736] Re: Flat-topped Acacia Tree : Vachellia Species : Kenya : 29SEP16 : AK-10 : 10/10

[Aarti S. Khale]

Promila Ji,
It wasjust a suggestion.
Hope to get the id validated.
Regards,
Aarti

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Promila Chaturvedi <
thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Aarti for correcting my mistake.
> Promila
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Aarti S. Khale 
> wrote:
>
>> Garg Ji,
>> On searching, the other Species known as Flat-topped Acacia Tree is
>> Vachellia abyssinica, Syn Acacia abyssinica.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:50 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> According to a book Field Guide to common Trees and Shrubs of East
>>> Africa by Najma Dharani this Acacia is named as Acacia tortilis and the
>>> common name is Umbrella Thorn, Swahili name is Mgunga, Ol-gorete &
>>> ol-tepesi in Maasai and Etirr (Ateso Tororo).
>>> Regards,
>>> Promila
>>>
>>> efi page on Vachellia tortilis
>>> 
>>>
>>> I have little knowledge about Acacias.
>>> But the Acacia tortilis seen here, in Oman don't have straight pods like
>>> the ones seen here.
>>> I have posted Acacia tortilis on our group before.
>>> This was a huge tree, but low in height.
>>> Adding a picture of the main trunk.
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>> Tree's common name is Umbrella Thorn and it is almost flat like an
>>> umbrella. The bark is said to be rough brown-red. It is indigenous and wide
>>> spread in African savanna. The shape of the tree is just like yours and the
>>> book mentioned its name as Acacia tortilis.
>>> Promila
>>>
>>> Its pale brown pods are twisted and some times curled into rings.
>>> Promila
>>>
>>> To me pods look different at
>>>  http://www.kyffhauser.co.za/Plants1/Acacia_tortilis_subsp_h
>>> eteracantha/Image1.htm
>>> http://www.southernafricanplants.net/plantdata_sub.php?Mspec
>>> _ID=50&PHPSESSID=52md95nddo8skh8mg3l7a2t1a4
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Aarti S. Khale 
>>> Date: 29 September 2016 at 12:22
>>> Subject: Flat-topped Acacia Tree : Vachellia Species : Kenya : 29SEP16 :
>>> AK-10 : 10/10
>>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seen during visit in July.
>>> Would like to know the Species name please.
>>> Garg Ji, do we have an Acacia expert in our group?
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>> 
>>>
>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>> .
>>>
>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>  (largest in the
>>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
>>> website  (with a species
>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>>
>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>  of more than a
>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>
>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>>> India'.
>>>
>>
>>
>

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[efloraofindia:253735] Re: Flat-topped Acacia Tree : Vachellia Species : Kenya : 29SEP16 : AK-10 : 10/10

[Promila Chaturvedi]

Thanks Aarti for correcting my mistake.
Promila

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Aarti S. Khale 
wrote:

> Garg Ji,
> On searching, the other Species known as Flat-topped Acacia Tree is
> Vachellia abyssinica, Syn Acacia abyssinica.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:50 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>
>> According to a book Field Guide to common Trees and Shrubs of East Africa
>> by Najma Dharani this Acacia is named as Acacia tortilis and the common
>> name is Umbrella Thorn, Swahili name is Mgunga, Ol-gorete & ol-tepesi in
>> Maasai and Etirr (Ateso Tororo).
>> Regards,
>> Promila
>>
>> efi page on Vachellia tortilis
>> 
>>
>> I have little knowledge about Acacias.
>> But the Acacia tortilis seen here, in Oman don't have straight pods like
>> the ones seen here.
>> I have posted Acacia tortilis on our group before.
>> This was a huge tree, but low in height.
>> Adding a picture of the main trunk.
>> Aarti
>>
>> Tree's common name is Umbrella Thorn and it is almost flat like an
>> umbrella. The bark is said to be rough brown-red. It is indigenous and wide
>> spread in African savanna. The shape of the tree is just like yours and the
>> book mentioned its name as Acacia tortilis.
>> Promila
>>
>> Its pale brown pods are twisted and some times curled into rings.
>> Promila
>>
>> To me pods look different at
>>  http://www.kyffhauser.co.za/Plants1/Acacia_tortilis_subsp_h
>> eteracantha/Image1.htm
>> http://www.southernafricanplants.net/plantdata_sub.php?
>> Mspec_ID=50&PHPSESSID=52md95nddo8skh8mg3l7a2t1a4
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Aarti S. Khale 
>> Date: 29 September 2016 at 12:22
>> Subject: Flat-topped Acacia Tree : Vachellia Species : Kenya : 29SEP16 :
>> AK-10 : 10/10
>> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Seen during visit in July.
>> Would like to know the Species name please.
>> Garg Ji, do we have an Acacia expert in our group?
>> Aarti
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> 
>>
>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>> .
>>
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>  (largest in the
>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
>> website  (with a species
>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>  of more than a
>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
>>
>
>

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[efloraofindia:253734] Argyreia (‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎Convolvulaceae) page with images of species in efloraofindia

[J.M. Garg]

Dear members,

Pl. go through *‎**Argyreia*

 (*‎‎Convolvulaceae
*)
page with images of species (done mainly by Gurcharan Singh ji) in
efloraofindia.

If you find any incorrect identification, pl. let us know. If anybody can
send images of other species of this genera (for incorporation in the
website), if any, it will be really nice.
-- 
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J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'


Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
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please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
 (largest in the
world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
website  (with a species
database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
 of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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