Re: [efloraofindia:332461] Clematis X 'Jackmanii' : Somerset County Park, New Jersey : 13OCT19 : AK-15

[Aarti S. Khale]

Saroj Ji,
Thanks for your prompt response.
Regards,
Aarti

On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 10:22:14 AM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
>
> I guess correct ID.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 11:51 am, Aarti S. Khale  > wrote:
>
>> Clematis Species seen in New Jersey in June,17.
>> A cultivated, garden plant.
>> The name suggests Clematis X 'Jackmanii'.
>> There was another similar Clematis with Purple flowers.
>> Does it come in shades of Blue and Purple?
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Re: [efloraofindia:332457] Clematis X 'Jackmanii' : Somerset County Park, New Jersey : 13OCT19 : AK-15

[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess correct ID.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 11:51 am, Aarti S. Khale 
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> Clematis Species seen in New Jersey in June,17.
> A cultivated, garden plant.
> The name suggests Clematis X 'Jackmanii'.
> There was another similar Clematis with Purple flowers.
> Does it come in shades of Blue and Purple?
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[efloraofindia:332456] Re: Keys of Ophiorrhiza species of South India

[Dr E S Santhosh Kumar]

Gargji,  it is good but little difficult owing to a number of variations
within the species.  Currently one boy is doing it for his phd


On Sun, 13 Oct 2019, 10:59 am J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> May I request for keys of Ophiorrhiza species of South India.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332453] Re: Ambrosia artemisiifolia_RKC01_20022012

[Gurcharan Singh]

Please ignore my earlier message. It is A. artemisiifolia only.

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On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:43 AM Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> To me it does not look like Ambrosia artemisiifolia
>
>
> On Monday, February 20, 2012 at 11:18:19 AM UTC+5:30, Ritesh Kumar
> Choudhary wrote:
>>
>> Ambrosia artemisiifolia L.
>>
>> Family: Asteraceae
>>
>> Locality: Daeejeon, S. Korea
>>
>> Date: September, 2011.
>>
>> A common weed native to N. America.
>>
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[efloraofindia:332452] Keys of Ophiorrhiza species of South India

[J.M. Garg]

May I request for keys of Ophiorrhiza species of South India.
It will be really nice, if somebody can provide these.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332450] Re: Ixora taiwanensis ?

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Carmelita ji,
You are one of the most valuable member of this group. You are so
knowledgeable and we have always been benefitted from your guidance.
What you wrote is exactly right from USA point of view.
But in India, there is an all together different eco system and
culture (totally different from USA), where hardly anybody cares fro the
exact name of the ornamental plants, including the nurseries and gardeners.
Ushadi had seen both in USA and India. She mostly concurs with your views,
having seen both the worlds.
My apologies, in case you felt offended in any way.


On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 02:15, carmelita  wrote:

> Ushadi,
>
> So much negativity!
>
> I will only apologize that I opted to not read all of your words as it
> looked more like a diatribe than anything else. The only part I will answer
> is, what is a landscape architect. Landscape architecture is what I studied
> for my highest education and I am quite proud of my accomplishment.
>
> Thank you for making me feel like a very low, uneducated, unnecessary
> person. You have succeeded in making me feel useless to this group. Perhaps
> my opinions have no value after all.
>
> If the esteemed members of this group no longer wish me to be a member, I
> will step down.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 8:35:13 AM UTC-4, dr.rakesh Singh wrote:
>>
>> This Ixora is dwarf =3 feet , smaller flowers petal less than 1 cm tube
>> about 2.5 cm  , petals 4 occasionally 5 .
>>  Small leaves = 4-6 cm long 2-3  cm wide , no hairs , fleshy crunchy ,
>>  pink , red .
>> Ornamental in my apartment complex , Surat city , Gujarat
>> Today morning , 02 10 2019
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Re: [efloraofindia:332449] Fwd: Hibiscus radiatus

[J.M. Garg]

A reply from another mail from Jayanta ji:
"Thank you Sir, thanks to Dr Rakesh Singh Sir & Sj Saroj  Sir for correct
id of Hibiscus asitocella, with regards"

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 19:32, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Agree with Dr. Singh !
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:28 PM dr.rakesh Singh 
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>> Hibiscus acetosella I think
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 19:03 J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>>> Thanks, Jayanta ji.
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>>> From: Jayanta Kumar Jena 
>>> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 18:38
>>> Subject: Hibiscus radiatus
>>> To: 
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>>> Good evening Sir. Posting some clicks of Hibiscus radiatus
>>> today(12/10/2019) forenoon & afternoon( closing florets) at my res garden
>>> at Bhubaneswar,Odisha, with regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:332448] Plant for ID

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rakesh ji and Saroj ji.

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 19:15, dr.rakesh Singh 
wrote:

> Not Argemone at all . A Thistle .
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 19:12 J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> I think something else.
>> Looks different from Argemone Mexicana
>> 
>>  and
>> Argemone ochroleuca
>> 
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>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: rinku 
>> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:32
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:331715] Plant for ID
>> To: efloraofindia 
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>>
>> Date-August 2019
>>
>> Location-  growing wild in  Sirmour and Shimla HP
>>
>> Habitat- Wild
>>
>> Plant Habit- Herb
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>> Other Information- Growing in fields as wild
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[efloraofindia:332447] Re: Ambrosia artemisiifolia_RKC01_20022012

[Gurcharan Singh]

To me it does not look like Ambrosia artemisiifolia


On Monday, February 20, 2012 at 11:18:19 AM UTC+5:30, Ritesh Kumar 
Choudhary wrote:
>
> Ambrosia artemisiifolia L.
>
> Family: Asteraceae
>
> Locality: Daeejeon, S. Korea
>
> Date: September, 2011.
>
> A common weed native to N. America.
>
> Regards,
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[efloraofindia:332446] Re: Ixora taiwanensis ?

[carmelita]

Ushadi,

So much negativity!

I will only apologize that I opted to not read all of your words as it 
looked more like a diatribe than anything else. The only part I will answer 
is, what is a landscape architect. Landscape architecture is what I studied 
for my highest education and I am quite proud of my accomplishment. 

Thank you for making me feel like a very low, uneducated, unnecessary 
person. You have succeeded in making me feel useless to this group. Perhaps 
my opinions have no value after all. 

If the esteemed members of this group no longer wish me to be a member, I 
will step down.



On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 8:35:13 AM UTC-4, dr.rakesh Singh wrote:
>
> This Ixora is dwarf =3 feet , smaller flowers petal less than 1 cm tube 
> about 2.5 cm  , petals 4 occasionally 5 . 
>  Small leaves = 4-6 cm long 2-3  cm wide , no hairs , fleshy crunchy , 
>  pink , red . 
> Ornamental in my apartment complex , Surat city , Gujarat
> Today morning , 02 10 2019
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Re: [efloraofindia:332444] Re: Ixora taiwanensis ?

[ushadi]

Dear Carmelita


GURU is Gurcharanji our most respected Botanist Taxonomist memer, you must
have seen his threads.

==
You must one day visit India and I will personally take you around to the
nurseries
you will be amazed how UNLABELLED the plants are even in big nurseries.

And landscape architects?
what is that? is the question most apartment builders ask,  they looked
askance when I asked at some
big office complexes in Delhi on one of my visits earlier this year.

The only prolific nursery that studies and labels their plant I find
is owned by
 a palm enthusiast who turned his hobby into a business: the Green Mall in
the ganges delta, he even wrote a book.

There are no patents on private hybridization by some gardener.

Most likely it was an agri import from Thailand, that does booming business
of selling
flowering plants to India, we see shiploads coming in every winter
In Bangkok markets I never saw any labels, for daily consumer trade.
Wholesalers may have a more control but don't know.

==
as noted in the patent application,
it is reproduced asexually from cuttings,
its very easy to reproduce all kinds of ixoras in the hot and humid climes
here
just as it did in the patent application.

Also he claims it was natural mutation in one branch,
and so who is to say it did not occur here in India also, could have
occurred countless times
many gardeners may have noticed it and grown it
and some one took it upon themselves to multiply that " mistake" ???

==

I must at this point also point it out to you as a history buff I have been
looking in
to the mindsets of many inventors particularly in India :  not to apply for
patents, or copy rights.
Dr Jagadish Chandra Bose comes to mind. He never patented his inventions.
He
had many 
and Macaroni was given credit and patent for radio
there are many such inventions he never patented. there are countless
others form this country, not celebrated
so not easy to find on the internet, only while reading their papers or
biographies do I run into them.

Dr Jagadish Chandra Bose was much feted, in Europe and in India.
You have I am sure read about him in the Book: *Secret life of Plants. Esp
Chapter 6 *
It was and still is very popular.  There was even a movie
now a old/bad copy is on utube.
Stevie Wonder had a musical CD ,
actually
sountrack fort he original movie..I love it
This spring I saw a great display of them in two remaining bookstores in
NYC this summer.

Any bdy interested in Plants, their life, physiology, growth , their
nervous system, their heart and pumping system,
their sounds and their 'Humanity" and compassion should read this book.

many people give copyrights over to community
Several examples are right here,, one is Gargji
Look at the photos he has on the creative commons at Wiki is astounding

second such person is Dinesh VAlke
\his photostream on flickr  an here has no copyright

Our entire website has pictures 99% of which do not display a copyright
symbol..

phew too long an answer

I forget what else I wanted to say
I will type it next if I remember what that was

be well


Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:20 AM carmelita  wrote:

> No landscaper? If it was a group of gardeners volunteering their time,
> they are the landscapers. Also, no Guru needed. Only necessary to visit the
> local nurseries where plants are most often purchased and inquire what is
> the currently most popular Ixora of that color. Here in the US we have what
> we call Master Gardeners and some turn to them for advice - perhaps you
> have an equivalent group where you live?
>
> Not necessarily developed by smart gardeners in their own garden, but
> rather hybridised by someone who will have patented the plant or at least
> applied for a patent. The application for patent will have the most minute
> details.
>
> Tjoe Foeng Jin applied for patent 'Pink Pixie'; this plant is now growing
> in rather too many gardens in Florida and Georgia.
> https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP15026P2/en
>
> Other patented Ixora can be excluded due to bloom color such as:
> 1994 Diana Zaandam's 'Diora' has white blooms
>
> Occasionally, a garden plant will create a sport (I recall my father going
> into great detail to explain how we should always look for sports); the
> gardener can, after much work, apply for a patent for what began as a sport.
> 1995 Fabia C Pitman's 'Frankie Hipp' has white blooms with petals having
> thin pink margins - it began as a sport on a 'Nora Grant' Ixora
>
> After a new Ixora is discovered/developed, one needs a grower and then a
> supplier. IndiaMart lists several of these:
> https://dir.indiamart.com/impcat/ixora-plant.html
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 8:35:13 AM UTC-4, dr.rakesh Singh wrote:
>>
>> This Ix

Re: [efloraofindia:332442] Berries for ID : New Windsor, New York : 10OCT19 : AK-12

[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di,
Thanks for the links.
Regards,
Aarti

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:25 PM ushadi  wrote:

> forgot to give the url for the variance
>
> 1:   fat //wide leaves
> https://www.all-creatures.org/pica/ftshl-honeysuckle-19.html
>
> 2 :  skinny and smaleer leaves
> http://www.carolinanature.com/trees/lomo.html
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:02 PM ushadi  wrote:
>
>> leaves seem to be variable in size...length and width
>>
>> like fat people skinny people!!!
>>
>> it is lonicera morrowii
>> Regards
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:04 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Leaves look slightly narrow!
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 12:35 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj Ji,
 Another Lonicera Species native to this area is Lonicera morrowii.
 The leaves are looking very close.
 Kindly check.


 http://seedguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/lonicera-morrowii-morrows-honeysuckle.html


 Regards,
 Aarti


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 wrote:

> Saroj Ji,
> Your given id seems very close to my pictures.
> Thanks again.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:54 AM Aarti S. Khale 
> wrote:
>
>> Saroj Ji,
>> Thanks for the id.
>> I will search further.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 2:54:11 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lonicera xylosteum L. ?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 11:44 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Tiny berries in pairs seen in the woods at New Windsor in June, 17.
 These are similar to another posted earlier, which was suggested as
 Lonicera Species.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332442] Berries for ID : New Windsor, New York : 10OCT19 : AK-12

[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di,
Thanks for validating my suggested id.
Regards,
Aarti

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:23 PM ushadi  wrote:

> leaves seem to be variable in size...length and width
>
> like fat people skinny people!!!
>
> it is lonicera morrowii
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:04 PM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> Leaves look slightly narrow!
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 12:35 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj Ji,
>>> Another Lonicera Species native to this area is Lonicera morrowii.
>>> The leaves are looking very close.
>>> Kindly check.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://seedguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/lonicera-morrowii-morrows-honeysuckle.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:40 AM Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj Ji,
 Your given id seems very close to my pictures.
 Thanks again.
 Regards,
 Aarti

 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:54 AM Aarti S. Khale 
 wrote:

> Saroj Ji,
> Thanks for the id.
> I will search further.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 2:54:11 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
> wrote:
>>
>> Lonicera xylosteum L. ?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 11:44 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tiny berries in pairs seen in the woods at New Windsor in June, 17.
>>> These are similar to another posted earlier, which was suggested as
>>> Lonicera Species.
>>>  Aarti
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Re: [efloraofindia:332441] Berries for ID : New Windsor, New York : 10OCT19 : AK-12

[ushadi]

forgot to give the url for the variance

1:   fat //wide leaves
https://www.all-creatures.org/pica/ftshl-honeysuckle-19.html

2 :  skinny and smaleer leaves
http://www.carolinanature.com/trees/lomo.html
Regards
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On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:02 PM ushadi  wrote:

> leaves seem to be variable in size...length and width
>
> like fat people skinny people!!!
>
> it is lonicera morrowii
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:04 PM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> Leaves look slightly narrow!
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 12:35 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj Ji,
>>> Another Lonicera Species native to this area is Lonicera morrowii.
>>> The leaves are looking very close.
>>> Kindly check.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://seedguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/lonicera-morrowii-morrows-honeysuckle.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:40 AM Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj Ji,
 Your given id seems very close to my pictures.
 Thanks again.
 Regards,
 Aarti

 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:54 AM Aarti S. Khale 
 wrote:

> Saroj Ji,
> Thanks for the id.
> I will search further.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 2:54:11 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
> wrote:
>>
>> Lonicera xylosteum L. ?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 11:44 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tiny berries in pairs seen in the woods at New Windsor in June, 17.
>>> These are similar to another posted earlier, which was suggested as
>>> Lonicera Species.
>>>  Aarti
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Re: [efloraofindia:332440] Berries for ID : New Windsor, New York : 10OCT19 : AK-12

[ushadi]

leaves seem to be variable in size...length and width

like fat people skinny people!!!

it is lonicera morrowii
Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:04 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Leaves look slightly narrow!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 12:35 PM Aarti S. Khale 
> wrote:
>
>> Saroj Ji,
>> Another Lonicera Species native to this area is Lonicera morrowii.
>> The leaves are looking very close.
>> Kindly check.
>>
>>
>> http://seedguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/lonicera-morrowii-morrows-honeysuckle.html
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:40 AM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj Ji,
>>> Your given id seems very close to my pictures.
>>> Thanks again.
>>> Regards,
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:54 AM Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj Ji,
 Thanks for the id.
 I will search further.
 Regards,
 Aarti

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 wrote:
>
> Lonicera xylosteum L. ?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 11:44 PM Aarti S. Khale 
> wrote:
>
>> Tiny berries in pairs seen in the woods at New Windsor in June, 17.
>> These are similar to another posted earlier, which was suggested as
>> Lonicera Species.
>>  Aarti
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Re: [efloraofindia:332439] SK 2216 11 October 2019

[ushadi]

Thank you
the leaves should have been my clue

will try to remember the pattern
Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:22 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Not Thistle .
>
> It has been identified as Himalaiella abnormis (Lipsch.) Raab-Straube
>  !
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 9:01 PM ushadi  wrote:
>
>> thistle
>> what kind?
>> I ,at least ,cant tell from this picture
>> sorry
>>
>> Regards
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:37 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Manang, Central Nepal
>>> Date: Not known
>>> Elevation: 3800 m.
>>> Habitat : Wild.
>>>
>>> Sent by a friend.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: [efloraofindia:332438] Tree for ID : New Windsor,New York : 22NOV17 : AK-23

[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di,
Thanks for validating.
Regards,
Aarti

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:09 PM ushadi  wrote:

> yes
> the same
>
> its prolific seed maker and it also grows all over
> that's why its a weed
> noxious enough that some states have now banned its sale
> see the earlier thread where I gave some more info
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:27 PM Aarti S. Khale 
> wrote:
>
>> Could this tree also be  Ailanthus altissima?
>> It was clicked in the same location.
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:24 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Aarti ji.
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>>> Date: 22-Nov-2017 8:08 PM
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:281996] Tree for ID : New Windsor,New York :
>>> 22NOV17 : AK-23
>>> To: "efloraofindia" 
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> Tree seen in thick woods on the 22nd June,17 in New Windsor.
>>> Looks close to Ailanthus Species from Kashmir.
>>> Aarti
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Re: [efloraofindia:332437] Fwd: SK 2197 26 September 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Not available in India ! Sold by office only.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 8:56 pm, ushadi  wrote:

> how can one in India buy them?
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:37 PM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes Usha Di !  around INR 500 each and less.
>>
>> 1. A handbook of Flowering Plans of Nepal  Vol 1  ISBN : 978-9937-0-3401-2
>> 2. A handbook of Flowering Plans of Nepal  Vol 1  ISBN :
>> 978-9937-9248-4-9
>> 3. Flowering Plants Discovered from Nepal ISBN : 978-9937-9248-3-2
>>
>> All published by Department of Plant Resources m Govt. of Nepal.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:02 AM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For me it is even difficult. Just I can guess.
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 8:55 am, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Question is how to verify with the keys as other aspects look similar.

 On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 00:46, Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

> I guess you are right Mr. Garg !
>
> plantillustrations.org 335551Syzygium venosum DC.Memoires de la
> Société de physique et d’histoire naturelle de Genève, vol. 9: t. 17
> (1841-1842) [J.C. Heyland]
> 
> plantillustrations.org 335552Syzygium venosum DC. [as Syzygium
> areolatum DC.] Memoires de la Société de physique et d’histoire naturelle
> de Genève, vol. 9: t. 18 (1841-1842) [J.C. Heyland]
> 
> Recently published book the Dept of Plant Resources , Govt. of Nepal
> has added following sp also besides listed in the ACFPoN :
> S. formosum
> S. kurzii
> S. nervosum
> S.ramosissium
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:19 AM ushadi 
> wrote:
>
>> not S. cumini for sure
>> Regards
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 3:02 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> On checking with keys in Flora of Bhutan at Syzygium
>>> 
>>> ‎, there is another closely related species as per keys at
>>> Calyx tube 4—5mm, cup suddenly contracted into stalk-like base;
>>> stamens 4—
>>> 7mm.
>>> 8. S. venosum
>>> Calyx tube funnel-shaped, tapering and not suddenly contracted into
>>> stalk-like base
>>> ..
>>> 10. S. cumini
>>>
>>> Flora of Bhutan mentions, Fl. -Fr. time as June to November. So *S.
>>> venosum *is possible. It also gives its habitat as Warm
>>> broad-leaved forests and river banks in dry valleys, 300- l410m, while 
>>> for
>>> S. cumini it gives Subtropical and warm broad-leaved forests, 200— 
>>> 1580m.
>>> February —August.
>>> However, I am unable to decide based on the above keys.
>>>
>>> Complete description of *S. venosum *is as below:
>>> Tree 6- 25m. Leaves leathery, elliptic to obovate, 8 — 12 x 2.5 —
>>> 6cm, abruptly acuminate or caudate, base attenuate, glossy above, veins
>>> numerous, slender, weakly prominent on both surfaces, intra-marginal 
>>> vein
>>> conspicuous; petiole 1.1 2cm. Cymes terminal and axillary, 4 — 8cm
>>> diameter, many-flowered; peduncle 2 —6cm. Flowers sessile. Calyx 4—5 x 
>>> 4—5mm,*
>>> cup abruptly narrowed into stalk like base*, very shallowly lobed.
>>> Petals white, -4mm, shed together as flowers open. Stamens cream, 4 - 
>>> 7mm.
>>> Style c 4mm. Fruit obovoid, c lcm, fleshy when ripe, pinkish crimson.
>>>
>>> Complete description of *S. cumini *is as below:
>>> Tree to 25m. Leaves coriaceous, elliptic, sometimes ovate or
>>> obovate, 6— 13 x 3—6cm, acuminate, base cuneate, veins numerous,
>>> intra-marginal vein +/-conspicuous; petiole 1.5—2cm. Cymes borne in 
>>> axils
>>> of older and fallen leaves, c 8cm diameter, many-flowered; peduncle 0.5 —
>>> 10cm. Flowers sessile. Calyx funnel-shaped, tube 3 — 5 x 2 — 3mm, 
>>> *tapering
>>> into stalk-like base*, lobes shallow, persistent. Petals creamy,
>>> 2mm, shed as a cap. Stamens 2 — 5mm. Style 2 — 4mm. Fruit obliquely
>>> obovoid, l x O.6cm, crimson, becoming black when ripe.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 23:01
>>> Subject: SK 2197 26 September 2019
>>> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
>>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location:  Indra Daha, Kathmandu
>>> Altitude: 1543 m.
>>> Date: 18 August 2019
>>> Ha

Re: [efloraofindia:332436] Fwd: SK 2197 26 September 2019

[ushadi]

how can one in India buy them?
Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:37 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Yes Usha Di !  around INR 500 each and less.
>
> 1. A handbook of Flowering Plans of Nepal  Vol 1  ISBN : 978-9937-0-3401-2
> 2. A handbook of Flowering Plans of Nepal  Vol 1  ISBN : 978-9937-9248-4-9
> 3. Flowering Plants Discovered from Nepal ISBN : 978-9937-9248-3-2
>
> All published by Department of Plant Resources m Govt. of Nepal.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:02 AM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> For me it is even difficult. Just I can guess.
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 8:55 am, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Question is how to verify with the keys as other aspects look similar.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 00:46, Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I guess you are right Mr. Garg !

 plantillustrations.org 335551Syzygium venosum DC.Memoires de la Société
 de physique et d’histoire naturelle de Genève, vol. 9: t. 17 (1841-1842)
 [J.C. Heyland]
 
 plantillustrations.org 335552Syzygium venosum DC. [as Syzygium
 areolatum DC.] Memoires de la Société de physique et d’histoire naturelle
 de Genève, vol. 9: t. 18 (1841-1842) [J.C. Heyland]
 
 Recently published book the Dept of Plant Resources , Govt. of Nepal
 has added following sp also besides listed in the ACFPoN :
 S. formosum
 S. kurzii
 S. nervosum
 S.ramosissium

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:19 AM ushadi 
 wrote:

> not S. cumini for sure
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 3:02 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> On checking with keys in Flora of Bhutan at Syzygium
>> 
>> ‎, there is another closely related species as per keys at
>> Calyx tube 4—5mm, cup suddenly contracted into stalk-like base;
>> stamens 4—
>> 7mm.
>> 8. S. venosum
>> Calyx tube funnel-shaped, tapering and not suddenly contracted into
>> stalk-like base
>> ..
>> 10. S. cumini
>>
>> Flora of Bhutan mentions, Fl. -Fr. time as June to November. So *S.
>> venosum *is possible. It also gives its habitat as Warm broad-leaved
>> forests and river banks in dry valleys, 300- l410m, while for S. cumini 
>> it
>> gives Subtropical and warm broad-leaved forests, 200— 1580m. February
>> —August.
>> However, I am unable to decide based on the above keys.
>>
>> Complete description of *S. venosum *is as below:
>> Tree 6- 25m. Leaves leathery, elliptic to obovate, 8 — 12 x 2.5 —
>> 6cm, abruptly acuminate or caudate, base attenuate, glossy above, veins
>> numerous, slender, weakly prominent on both surfaces, intra-marginal vein
>> conspicuous; petiole 1.1 2cm. Cymes terminal and axillary, 4 — 8cm
>> diameter, many-flowered; peduncle 2 —6cm. Flowers sessile. Calyx 4—5 x 
>> 4—5mm,*
>> cup abruptly narrowed into stalk like base*, very shallowly lobed.
>> Petals white, -4mm, shed together as flowers open. Stamens cream, 4 - 7mm.
>> Style c 4mm. Fruit obovoid, c lcm, fleshy when ripe, pinkish crimson.
>>
>> Complete description of *S. cumini *is as below:
>> Tree to 25m. Leaves coriaceous, elliptic, sometimes ovate or obovate,
>> 6— 13 x 3—6cm, acuminate, base cuneate, veins numerous, intra-marginal 
>> vein
>> +/-conspicuous; petiole 1.5—2cm. Cymes borne in axils of older and fallen
>> leaves, c 8cm diameter, many-flowered; peduncle 0.5 — 10cm. Flowers 
>> sessile.
>> Calyx funnel-shaped, tube 3 — 5 x 2 — 3mm, *tapering into stalk-like
>> base*, lobes shallow, persistent. Petals creamy, 2mm, shed as a cap.
>> Stamens 2 — 5mm. Style 2 — 4mm. Fruit obliquely obovoid, l x O.6cm,
>> crimson, becoming black when ripe.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 23:01
>> Subject: SK 2197 26 September 2019
>> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location:  Indra Daha, Kathmandu
>> Altitude: 1543 m.
>> Date: 18 August 2019
>> Habit : Wild
>>
>> Syzizium??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> 
>>
>> Winner o

Re: [efloraofindia:332435] Tree for ID : New Windsor,New York : 22NOV17 : AK-23

[ushadi]

yes
the same

its prolific seed maker and it also grows all over
that's why its a weed
noxious enough that some states have now banned its sale
see the earlier thread where I gave some more info
Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:27 PM Aarti S. Khale 
wrote:

> Could this tree also be  Ailanthus altissima?
> It was clicked in the same location.
> Aarti
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:24 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Aarti ji.
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: "Aarti S. Khale" 
>> Date: 22-Nov-2017 8:08 PM
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:281996] Tree for ID : New Windsor,New York :
>> 22NOV17 : AK-23
>> To: "efloraofindia" 
>> Cc:
>>
>> Tree seen in thick woods on the 22nd June,17 in New Windsor.
>> Looks close to Ailanthus Species from Kashmir.
>> Aarti
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Re: [efloraofindia:332434] Fwd: ID-090309NSJ

[ushadi]

what was the problem with this old case
?
Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:25 PM Narendra Joshi  wrote:

> Thank you Gary ji and Rakesh ji for ID.
>
> NSJ
>
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, 16:42 dr.rakesh Singh, 
> wrote:
>
>> Definitely .
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 18:11 JM Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> I think it should be *Hibiscus radiatus*
>>> 
>>>  as
>>> per images, details and keys herein.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 9 March 2009 13:24:34 UTC+5:30, raj wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 Attached herewith a photo of a flower looks like that of Allamanda /
 Hibiscus. It belongs to a Vine and I suppose it is not Hibiscus. Pl 
 confirm.

 Thanks & best wishes,

 Narendra Joshi

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Re: [efloraofindia:332433] For New Addition on site: 11102019STJ01

[ushadi]

Everything is new
every case is new

you don't have to put that in the subject line

just put  it as any other case


Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:43 PM ushadi  wrote:

> please don't send it to me
>
> it must go to the group
>
> what I wrote if for future write up that you do
>
>
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:30 PM Shaikh Tarbej 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok
>> I'll send you an information which I observed
>> Without any copy pest from elsewhere
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 20:11 ushadi  wrote:
>>
>>> ok
>>> but the way you wrote it up looks to any body's eyes as if
>>> you wrote a paper
>>> and the 2 references are references
>>>
>>> its not the proper way to avoid misimpression.
>>>
>>> I suggest you do it this way
>>> give the link and let people read it
>>> secondly if you want the entire text in the thread here, do what I do
>>> and/or recommend
>>> start by typingQuote , then type " , then type or copy paste  what
>>> you want it her, end with " , and type END quote
>>> and give the URL link.
>>>
>>> then there is no suspense ...
>>> and nobody will raise a finger
>>> or raise doubts about plagiarism.
>>>
>>> we all need to be careful.
>>> thanks
>>> Regards
>>> Ushadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:36 PM Shaikh Tarbej 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 All photgraphes are my clicks

 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:48 Shaikh Tarbej 
 wrote:

> If my citation required I'll send it to you
> Thank-you  sir
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:47 Shaikh Tarbej 
> wrote:
>
>> yes it is Reffered reference number  01 in information
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 20:51 ushadi  wrote:
>>
>>> very nice
>>>
>>> Is all this is what you wrote up yourself?
>>>
>>> or is it copy pasted from somewhere
>>>
>>> if that is the case
>>> please tell this group where from
>>> and give the url link for the source
>>>
>>> thanks]
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ushadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM J.M. Garg 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks a lot, Tarbej ji.

 -- Forwarded message -
 From: shaikhtarbej41 
 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 11:27
 Subject: [efloraofindia:332247] For New Addition on site:
 11102019STJ01
 To: efloraofindia 


 *Capillipedium filiculme* (Hook.f.) Stapf Published in: Hooker's
 Icones Plantarum 31: 4, sub pl. 3085, pl. 3085. 1922.

 *Family:* Poaceae

 *Basionym:* *Andropogon filiculmis* Hook. f.

 *Synonym:* *Dichanthium filiculme* (Hook.f.) S.K.Jain & Deshp.

 *Date: *07/10/2019

 *Location:* “Talbid”, Karad, Satara (MS)

 *Habit*

 Annual herb. Culms rambling; weak; 30-80 cm long; rooting from
 lower nodes. Culm-nodes glabrous, or bearded. Ligule an eciliate 
 membrane;
 acute. Leaf-blades involute, or convolute; 2-5 cm long; 4-6 mm wide.
 Leaf-blade apex acuminate.

 *Inflorescences*

 Inflorescence a panicle with branches tipped by a raceme. Panicle
 open; oblong; 3-10 cm long. Panicle branches capillary. Racemes 
 bearing few
 fertile spikelets, or many spikelets; 1-3 fertile spikelets on each.
 Rhachis evident, or obsolete; fragile at the nodes; subterete; ciliate 
 on
 margins. Rhachis internodes linear; 1-2 mm long. Spikelets in pairs, 
 or in
 threes. Fertile spikelets sessile; 1 in the cluster. Companion sterile
 spikelets pedicelled; 1 in the cluster, or 2 in the cluster. Pedicels
 linear; 1-2 mm long; with a translucent median line (also present in
 internodes); ciliate.

 *Sterile*

 Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty
 lemmas; lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. 
 Companion
 sterile spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.

 *Spikelets*

 Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
 without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
 compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory 
 branch
 structures. Spikelet callus bearded; base obtuse; attached 
 transversely.
 Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty lemmas;
 lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. Companion 
 sterile
 spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.

 *Fertile*

 Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
 without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
 compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory 
 branch
 struct

Re: [efloraofindia:332432] For New Addition on site: 11102019STJ01

[Shaikh Tarbej]

Ok, no problem.

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 20:34 ushadi  wrote:

> please don't send it to me
>
> it must go to the group
>
> what I wrote if for future write up that you do
>
>
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:30 PM Shaikh Tarbej 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok
>> I'll send you an information which I observed
>> Without any copy pest from elsewhere
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 20:11 ushadi  wrote:
>>
>>> ok
>>> but the way you wrote it up looks to any body's eyes as if
>>> you wrote a paper
>>> and the 2 references are references
>>>
>>> its not the proper way to avoid misimpression.
>>>
>>> I suggest you do it this way
>>> give the link and let people read it
>>> secondly if you want the entire text in the thread here, do what I do
>>> and/or recommend
>>> start by typingQuote , then type " , then type or copy paste  what
>>> you want it her, end with " , and type END quote
>>> and give the URL link.
>>>
>>> then there is no suspense ...
>>> and nobody will raise a finger
>>> or raise doubts about plagiarism.
>>>
>>> we all need to be careful.
>>> thanks
>>> Regards
>>> Ushadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:36 PM Shaikh Tarbej 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 All photgraphes are my clicks

 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:48 Shaikh Tarbej 
 wrote:

> If my citation required I'll send it to you
> Thank-you  sir
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:47 Shaikh Tarbej 
> wrote:
>
>> yes it is Reffered reference number  01 in information
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 20:51 ushadi  wrote:
>>
>>> very nice
>>>
>>> Is all this is what you wrote up yourself?
>>>
>>> or is it copy pasted from somewhere
>>>
>>> if that is the case
>>> please tell this group where from
>>> and give the url link for the source
>>>
>>> thanks]
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ushadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM J.M. Garg 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks a lot, Tarbej ji.

 -- Forwarded message -
 From: shaikhtarbej41 
 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 11:27
 Subject: [efloraofindia:332247] For New Addition on site:
 11102019STJ01
 To: efloraofindia 


 *Capillipedium filiculme* (Hook.f.) Stapf Published in: Hooker's
 Icones Plantarum 31: 4, sub pl. 3085, pl. 3085. 1922.

 *Family:* Poaceae

 *Basionym:* *Andropogon filiculmis* Hook. f.

 *Synonym:* *Dichanthium filiculme* (Hook.f.) S.K.Jain & Deshp.

 *Date: *07/10/2019

 *Location:* “Talbid”, Karad, Satara (MS)

 *Habit*

 Annual herb. Culms rambling; weak; 30-80 cm long; rooting from
 lower nodes. Culm-nodes glabrous, or bearded. Ligule an eciliate 
 membrane;
 acute. Leaf-blades involute, or convolute; 2-5 cm long; 4-6 mm wide.
 Leaf-blade apex acuminate.

 *Inflorescences*

 Inflorescence a panicle with branches tipped by a raceme. Panicle
 open; oblong; 3-10 cm long. Panicle branches capillary. Racemes 
 bearing few
 fertile spikelets, or many spikelets; 1-3 fertile spikelets on each.
 Rhachis evident, or obsolete; fragile at the nodes; subterete; ciliate 
 on
 margins. Rhachis internodes linear; 1-2 mm long. Spikelets in pairs, 
 or in
 threes. Fertile spikelets sessile; 1 in the cluster. Companion sterile
 spikelets pedicelled; 1 in the cluster, or 2 in the cluster. Pedicels
 linear; 1-2 mm long; with a translucent median line (also present in
 internodes); ciliate.

 *Sterile*

 Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty
 lemmas; lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. 
 Companion
 sterile spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.

 *Spikelets*

 Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
 without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
 compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory 
 branch
 structures. Spikelet callus bearded; base obtuse; attached 
 transversely.
 Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty lemmas;
 lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. Companion 
 sterile
 spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.

 *Fertile*

 Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
 without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
 compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory 
 branch
 structures. Spikelet callus bearded; base obtuse; attached 
 transversely.

 *Glume*

 Glume

Fwd: [efloraofindia:332430] For New Addition on site: 11102019STJ01

[ushadi]

this would help others also
that's why

Regards
Ushadi


-- Forwarded message -
From: ushadi 
Date: Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:332249] For New Addition on site: 11102019STJ01
To: Shaikh Tarbej 


ok
but the way you wrote it up looks to any body's eyes as if
you wrote a paper
and the 2 references are references

its not the proper way to avoid misimpression.

I suggest you do it this way
give the link and let people read it
secondly if you want the entire text in the thread here, do what I do
and/or recommend
start by typingQuote , then type " , then type or copy paste  what you
want it her, end with " , and type END quote
and give the URL link.

then there is no suspense ...
and nobody will raise a finger
or raise doubts about plagiarism.

we all need to be careful.
thanks
Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:36 PM Shaikh Tarbej 
wrote:

> All photgraphes are my clicks
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:48 Shaikh Tarbej 
> wrote:
>
>> If my citation required I'll send it to you
>> Thank-you  sir
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:47 Shaikh Tarbej 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> yes it is Reffered reference number  01 in information
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 20:51 ushadi  wrote:
>>>
 very nice

 Is all this is what you wrote up yourself?

 or is it copy pasted from somewhere

 if that is the case
 please tell this group where from
 and give the url link for the source

 thanks]

 Regards
 Ushadi


 On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Tarbej ji.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: shaikhtarbej41 
> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 11:27
> Subject: [efloraofindia:332247] For New Addition on site: 11102019STJ01
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> *Capillipedium filiculme* (Hook.f.) Stapf Published in: Hooker's
> Icones Plantarum 31: 4, sub pl. 3085, pl. 3085. 1922.
>
> *Family:* Poaceae
>
> *Basionym:* *Andropogon filiculmis* Hook. f.
>
> *Synonym:* *Dichanthium filiculme* (Hook.f.) S.K.Jain & Deshp.
>
> *Date: *07/10/2019
>
> *Location:* “Talbid”, Karad, Satara (MS)
>
> *Habit*
>
> Annual herb. Culms rambling; weak; 30-80 cm long; rooting from lower
> nodes. Culm-nodes glabrous, or bearded. Ligule an eciliate membrane; 
> acute.
> Leaf-blades involute, or convolute; 2-5 cm long; 4-6 mm wide. Leaf-blade
> apex acuminate.
>
> *Inflorescences*
>
> Inflorescence a panicle with branches tipped by a raceme. Panicle
> open; oblong; 3-10 cm long. Panicle branches capillary. Racemes bearing 
> few
> fertile spikelets, or many spikelets; 1-3 fertile spikelets on each.
> Rhachis evident, or obsolete; fragile at the nodes; subterete; ciliate on
> margins. Rhachis internodes linear; 1-2 mm long. Spikelets in pairs, or in
> threes. Fertile spikelets sessile; 1 in the cluster. Companion sterile
> spikelets pedicelled; 1 in the cluster, or 2 in the cluster. Pedicels
> linear; 1-2 mm long; with a translucent median line (also present in
> internodes); ciliate.
>
> *Sterile*
>
> Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty lemmas;
> lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. Companion sterile
> spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.
>
> *Spikelets*
>
> Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
> without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
> compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory branch
> structures. Spikelet callus bearded; base obtuse; attached transversely.
> Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty lemmas;
> lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. Companion sterile
> spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.
>
> *Fertile*
>
> Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
> without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
> compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory branch
> structures. Spikelet callus bearded; base obtuse; attached transversely.
>
> *Glume*
>
> Glumes dissimilar; exceeding apex of florets; firmer than fertile
> lemma. Lower glume ovate; 1 length of spikelet; chartaceous; 2-keeled;
> keeled obtusely; 7 -veined. Lower glume surface concave; glabrous, or
> villous. Upper glume lanceolate, or oblong; chartaceous; with hyaline
> margins; 1-keeled; 3-5 -veined.
>
> *Florets*
>
> Basal sterile florets barren; without significant palea. Lemma of
> lower sterile floret oblong; 1-1.5 mm long; hyaline; 0 -veined; without
> midvein; without lateral veins. Fertile lemma linear; 1-2 mm long; 
> hyaline;
> without keel; 1 -veined. Lemma apex entire; acute; awned; 1 -awned.
>

Re: [efloraofindia:332431] For New Addition on site: 11102019STJ01

[ushadi]

please don't send it to me

it must go to the group

what I wrote if for future write up that you do


Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:30 PM Shaikh Tarbej 
wrote:

> Ok
> I'll send you an information which I observed
> Without any copy pest from elsewhere
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 20:11 ushadi  wrote:
>
>> ok
>> but the way you wrote it up looks to any body's eyes as if
>> you wrote a paper
>> and the 2 references are references
>>
>> its not the proper way to avoid misimpression.
>>
>> I suggest you do it this way
>> give the link and let people read it
>> secondly if you want the entire text in the thread here, do what I do
>> and/or recommend
>> start by typingQuote , then type " , then type or copy paste  what
>> you want it her, end with " , and type END quote
>> and give the URL link.
>>
>> then there is no suspense ...
>> and nobody will raise a finger
>> or raise doubts about plagiarism.
>>
>> we all need to be careful.
>> thanks
>> Regards
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:36 PM Shaikh Tarbej 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All photgraphes are my clicks
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:48 Shaikh Tarbej 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If my citation required I'll send it to you
 Thank-you  sir

 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:47 Shaikh Tarbej 
 wrote:

> yes it is Reffered reference number  01 in information
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 20:51 ushadi  wrote:
>
>> very nice
>>
>> Is all this is what you wrote up yourself?
>>
>> or is it copy pasted from somewhere
>>
>> if that is the case
>> please tell this group where from
>> and give the url link for the source
>>
>> thanks]
>>
>> Regards
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot, Tarbej ji.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: shaikhtarbej41 
>>> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 11:27
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:332247] For New Addition on site:
>>> 11102019STJ01
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>>
>>>
>>> *Capillipedium filiculme* (Hook.f.) Stapf Published in: Hooker's
>>> Icones Plantarum 31: 4, sub pl. 3085, pl. 3085. 1922.
>>>
>>> *Family:* Poaceae
>>>
>>> *Basionym:* *Andropogon filiculmis* Hook. f.
>>>
>>> *Synonym:* *Dichanthium filiculme* (Hook.f.) S.K.Jain & Deshp.
>>>
>>> *Date: *07/10/2019
>>>
>>> *Location:* “Talbid”, Karad, Satara (MS)
>>>
>>> *Habit*
>>>
>>> Annual herb. Culms rambling; weak; 30-80 cm long; rooting from lower
>>> nodes. Culm-nodes glabrous, or bearded. Ligule an eciliate membrane; 
>>> acute.
>>> Leaf-blades involute, or convolute; 2-5 cm long; 4-6 mm wide. Leaf-blade
>>> apex acuminate.
>>>
>>> *Inflorescences*
>>>
>>> Inflorescence a panicle with branches tipped by a raceme. Panicle
>>> open; oblong; 3-10 cm long. Panicle branches capillary. Racemes bearing 
>>> few
>>> fertile spikelets, or many spikelets; 1-3 fertile spikelets on each.
>>> Rhachis evident, or obsolete; fragile at the nodes; subterete; ciliate 
>>> on
>>> margins. Rhachis internodes linear; 1-2 mm long. Spikelets in pairs, or 
>>> in
>>> threes. Fertile spikelets sessile; 1 in the cluster. Companion sterile
>>> spikelets pedicelled; 1 in the cluster, or 2 in the cluster. Pedicels
>>> linear; 1-2 mm long; with a translucent median line (also present in
>>> internodes); ciliate.
>>>
>>> *Sterile*
>>>
>>> Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty lemmas;
>>> lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. Companion 
>>> sterile
>>> spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.
>>>
>>> *Spikelets*
>>>
>>> Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
>>> without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
>>> compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory branch
>>> structures. Spikelet callus bearded; base obtuse; attached transversely.
>>> Companion sterile spikelets well-developed; containing empty lemmas;
>>> lanceolate; shorter than fertile; separately deciduous. Companion 
>>> sterile
>>> spikelet lemmas enclosed by glumes.
>>>
>>> *Fertile*
>>>
>>> Spikelets comprising 1 basal sterile florets; 1 fertile florets;
>>> without rhachilla extension. Spikelets elliptic, or oblong; dorsally
>>> compressed; 2-3 mm long; falling entire; deciduous with accessory branch
>>> structures. Spikelet callus bearded; base obtuse; attached transversely.
>>>
>>> *Glume*
>>>
>>> Glumes dissimilar; exceeding apex of florets; firmer than fertile
>>> lemma. Lower glume ovate; 1 length of spikelet; chartaceous; 2-keeled;
>>> keeled obtusely; 7 -veined. Lower glume surface concave; glabrous, or
>>> villous. Upper glume lanceolate, or oblong; c

Re: [efloraofindia:332428] ID please: CR10102019_1

[ushadi]

yes, likely
but can the leaves be so variable as on our page?

Regards
Ushadi


On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 6:15 PM dr.rakesh Singh 
wrote:

> Alysicarpus monilifer would be my guess .
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 14:45 Chaitanya Rajarshi 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Please identify this small plant at my location in Pune.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:332429] Fwd: ID-090309NSJ

[Narendra Joshi]

Thank you Gary ji and Rakesh ji for ID.

NSJ

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, 16:42 dr.rakesh Singh, 
wrote:

> Definitely .
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 18:11 JM Garg  wrote:
>
>> I think it should be *Hibiscus radiatus*
>> 
>>  as
>> per images, details and keys herein.
>>
>> On Monday, 9 March 2009 13:24:34 UTC+5:30, raj wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> Attached herewith a photo of a flower looks like that of Allamanda /
>>> Hibiscus. It belongs to a Vine and I suppose it is not Hibiscus. Pl confirm.
>>>
>>> Thanks & best wishes,
>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332427] Plant for ID

[ushadi]

oh good
then on follow up we will see a nice thistle or two...
will wait for follow up..

Regards
Ushadi


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:30 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Cirsium sp.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:30 PM dr.rakesh Singh 
> wrote:
>
>> Not Argemone at all . A Thistle .
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 19:12 J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> I think something else.
>>> Looks different from Argemone Mexicana
>>> 
>>>  and
>>> Argemone ochroleuca
>>> 
>>>
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>>> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:32
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:331715] Plant for ID
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>>
>>>
>>> Date-August 2019
>>>
>>> Location-  growing wild in  Sirmour and Shimla HP
>>>
>>> Habitat- Wild
>>>
>>> Plant Habit- Herb
>>>
>>>
>>> Other Information- Growing in fields as wild
>>>
>>>
>>> With Regards
>>>
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:332426] Fwd: DYSOPHYLLA AURICULARIA

[ushadi]

I just saw Gargji' s response

what do you think?
also do you have one full high resolution picture of it?
thanks
'
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From: Bimal Sar kar 
Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:331694] Fwd: DYSOPHYLLA AURICULARIA
To: ushadi 


Thank you Usha di.
Waiting for more input.
With regards,
Bimal

On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 14:43, ushadi  wrote:

> pogostemonn sp?
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:33 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Bimal ji
>>
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>> From: Bimal Sar kar 
>> Date: Sat 5 Oct, 2019, 7:16 AM
>> Subject: DYSOPHYLLA AURICULARIA
>> To:
>>
>>
>> Attaching a collage of Dysophylla auricularia ( ? ). The flowers a
>> visited by many species of butterflies. Plants are in bloom at this time.
>> Image was taken at small patch in a village nearby.
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[efloraofindia:332425] Fwd: DYSOPHYLLA AURICULARIA

[J.M. Garg]

Details are not clear in this low resolution collage.
But appears so as per Pogostemon auricularius


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Subject: DYSOPHYLLA AURICULARIA
To:


Attaching a collage of Dysophylla auricularia ( ? ). The flowers a visited
by many species of butterflies. Plants are in bloom at this time. Image was
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[efloraofindia:332424] Re: Pentapetes phoenicea from Odisha

[J.M. Garg]

Yes, matches with images at Pentapetes phoenicea


On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 09:22, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Jayanta ji.
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> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 22:55
> Subject: Pentapetes phoenicea from Odisha
> To: 
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>
> Sir,in Odiya it is Suryamani phula/Sataghadia,also called Dupaharia(
> Pentapetes phoenicea) of Malvacea photographed on 25/09/2019,
> Jainabad,Jhintisasan ,dist- Khorda,Odisha  grown naturally at the base of
> coconut tree at village Jainabad used locally for treatmdnt of snakebite
> ,fever etc. Sir,pl validate,with regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:332423] Fwd: Hibiscus radiatus

[Saroj Kasaju]

Agree with Dr. Singh !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:28 PM dr.rakesh Singh 
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> Hibiscus acetosella I think
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 19:03 J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Jayanta ji.
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>> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 18:38
>> Subject: Hibiscus radiatus
>> To: 
>>
>>
>> Good evening Sir. Posting some clicks of Hibiscus radiatus
>> today(12/10/2019) forenoon & afternoon( closing florets) at my res garden
>> at Bhubaneswar,Odisha, with regards,
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332422] Plant for ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Cirsium sp.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:30 PM dr.rakesh Singh 
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> Not Argemone at all . A Thistle .
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 19:12 J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> I think something else.
>> Looks different from Argemone Mexicana
>> 
>>  and
>> Argemone ochroleuca
>> 
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>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: rinku 
>> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:32
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:331715] Plant for ID
>> To: efloraofindia 
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>>
>> Date-August 2019
>>
>> Location-  growing wild in  Sirmour and Shimla HP
>>
>> Habitat- Wild
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>> Plant Habit- Herb
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>> Other Information- Growing in fields as wild
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Re: [efloraofindia:332419] Plant for ID

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Not Argemone at all . A Thistle .

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 19:12 J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I think something else.
> Looks different from Argemone Mexicana
> 
>  and
> Argemone ochroleuca
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> Subject: [efloraofindia:331715] Plant for ID
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> Date-August 2019
>
> Location-  growing wild in  Sirmour and Shimla HP
>
> Habitat- Wild
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> Other Information- Growing in fields as wild
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Re: [efloraofindia:332418] Fwd: Hibiscus radiatus

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Hibiscus acetosella I think

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 19:03 J.M. Garg  wrote:

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> To: 
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> Good evening Sir. Posting some clicks of Hibiscus radiatus
> today(12/10/2019) forenoon & afternoon( closing florets) at my res garden
> at Bhubaneswar,Odisha, with regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:332416] Re: Ixora taiwanensis ?

[dr.rakesh Singh]

https://ajaytaobotanicalblog.wordpress.com/tag/botanical-name-ixora-coccinea/

https://dengarden.com/gardening/Ixora-Facts-and-Growing-Tips

https://www.rhythmofnature.org/2019/01/ixora-chethi-flowers.html

http://www.stuartxchange.org/Santan.html

All these links basically mention that dwarf Ixora is a cultivar of either
Ixora coccinea or Ixora chinensis .

One riddle solved . One more to go .


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 08:19 dr.rakesh Singh 
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> Guruji is Dr. Gurcharan Singh .
> ..
>
> 'Gardeners' are mostly skilled gardening workmen ,nothing more . But I'll
> ask around .
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 02:20 carmelita  wrote:
>
>> No landscaper? If it was a group of gardeners volunteering their time,
>> they are the landscapers. Also, no Guru needed. Only necessary to visit the
>> local nurseries where plants are most often purchased and inquire what is
>> the currently most popular Ixora of that color. Here in the US we have what
>> we call Master Gardeners and some turn to them for advice - perhaps you
>> have an equivalent group where you live?
>>
>> Not necessarily developed by smart gardeners in their own garden, but
>> rather hybridised by someone who will have patented the plant or at least
>> applied for a patent. The application for patent will have the most minute
>> details.
>>
>> Tjoe Foeng Jin applied for patent 'Pink Pixie'; this plant is now growing
>> in rather too many gardens in Florida and Georgia.
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP15026P2/en
>>
>> Other patented Ixora can be excluded due to bloom color such as:
>> 1994 Diana Zaandam's 'Diora' has white blooms
>>
>> Occasionally, a garden plant will create a sport (I recall my father
>> going into great detail to explain how we should always look for sports);
>> the gardener can, after much work, apply for a patent for what began as a
>> sport.
>> 1995 Fabia C Pitman's 'Frankie Hipp' has white blooms with petals having
>> thin pink margins - it began as a sport on a 'Nora Grant' Ixora
>>
>> After a new Ixora is discovered/developed, one needs a grower and then a
>> supplier. IndiaMart lists several of these:
>> https://dir.indiamart.com/impcat/ixora-plant.html
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 8:35:13 AM UTC-4, dr.rakesh Singh wrote:
>>>
>>> This Ixora is dwarf =3 feet , smaller flowers petal less than 1 cm tube
>>> about 2.5 cm  , petals 4 occasionally 5 .
>>>  Small leaves = 4-6 cm long 2-3  cm wide , no hairs , fleshy crunchy ,
>>>  pink , red .
>>> Ornamental in my apartment complex , Surat city , Gujarat
>>> Today morning , 02 10 2019
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Re: [efloraofindia:332410] Fwd: Malvaceae Week: Hibiscus cannabinus from Murnaadu (MW-AR02)

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rakesh ji.

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 16:10, dr.rakesh Singh 
wrote:

> Yessir !
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 18:12 JM Garg  wrote:
>
>> I think it should be *Hibiscus radiatus*
>> 
>>  as
>> per images, details and keys herein.
>>
>> On Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 12:54:40 PM UTC+5:30, raghu ananth
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *Malvaceae Week: Hibiscus cannabinus from Murnaadu (MW-AR02)*
>>>
>>> *Planted in a home garden and cared .. unlike the gutter beauty posted
>>> earlier.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/10dcd0d3e73cafc3/1885b855e27bf9fc?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=gutter+beauty#1885b855e27bf9fc
>>> *
>>>
>>> *Season: Monsoon*
>>> *Habitat: Garden, Malenadu, Western ghats*
>>> *Murnaadu, Coorg*
>>> *Abundance :1 plant.*
>>>
>>> *03 Sep 2009*
>>>
>>> *Ref:*
>>>
>>> *http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/90286/
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332409] Re: SK 2219 12 October 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Paradesi ji ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 5:05 pm, Paradesi Anjaneyulu <
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> Yes, Rakesh Ji is correct,
>
> With regards.
>
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> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 15:56 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
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>> Sida rhombifolia L. !
>>
>> Thank you Dr. Singh .
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:32 PM dr.rakesh Singh <
>> dr.rakeshpsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sida rhombifolia . Though leaves a bit on narrow side .
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 14:53 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>>

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:08 PM Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
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>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:05 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Members

 Location: Indra Daha, Kathmandu
 Date: 11 September  2019
 Elevation: 1550 m.
 Habitat : Wild ??

 Looks different from Sida acuta Burm.f. ??

 Thank you.

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Re: [efloraofindia:332408] Indigofera oblongifolia

[dr.rakesh Singh]

ThanQ !

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:52 Paradesi Anjaneyulu <
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> Wonderful set Rakesh Ji,
> With Regards.
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:48 dr.rakesh Singh 
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>> My pleasure sir .
>> Learning new , revising old .
>> Hope to be useful !!
>> ThanQ !
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 15:33 J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>>> Thanks, Rakesh ji, for the wonderful presentation and a new addition to
>>> efi site at *Indigofera oblongifolia* Forssk.
>>> 
>>> Distribution given is India (N) ; * Andhra Pradesh ; Daman; Delhi; Diu
>>> ; Gujarat ; Haryana; Karnataka; Madhaya Pradesh ; Maharashtra; Punjab;
>>> Rajasthan; Tamil Nadu ; Uttar Pradesh ; * Indonesia (N) ; Iran (N) ;
>>> Jawa (N); Pakistan (N) ; Sri Lanka (N) and other countries as per ILDIS
>>> ;
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 12:50, dr.rakesh Singh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We do not have a page on this species in EFI
 Endemic in Surat and around  ,
 Perennial , hardy .
 Shrub? 3-4 feet , profusely branching ,
 Villous , grey green
 Compound leaf , leaflets 3-6 alternate / sub-opposite
 Recorded in Surat , Gujarat , 05 10 2019

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Re: [efloraofindia:332407] Indigofera oblongifolia

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Wonderful set Rakesh Ji,
With Regards.

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 16:48 dr.rakesh Singh 
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> Learning new , revising old .
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> ThanQ !
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> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 15:33 J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Rakesh ji, for the wonderful presentation and a new addition to
>> efi site at *Indigofera oblongifolia* Forssk.
>> 
>> Distribution given is India (N) ; * Andhra Pradesh ; Daman; Delhi; Diu ;
>> Gujarat ; Haryana; Karnataka; Madhaya Pradesh ; Maharashtra; Punjab;
>> Rajasthan; Tamil Nadu ; Uttar Pradesh ; * Indonesia (N) ; Iran (N) ;
>> Jawa (N); Pakistan (N) ; Sri Lanka (N) and other countries as per ILDIS
>> ;
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 12:50, dr.rakesh Singh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We do not have a page on this species in EFI
>>> Endemic in Surat and around  ,
>>> Perennial , hardy .
>>> Shrub? 3-4 feet , profusely branching ,
>>> Villous , grey green
>>> Compound leaf , leaflets 3-6 alternate / sub-opposite
>>> Recorded in Surat , Gujarat , 05 10 2019
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Re: [efloraofindia:332406] Re: SK 2219 12 October 2019

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Yes, Rakesh Ji is correct,

With regards.


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 15:56 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Sida rhombifolia L. !
>
> Thank you Dr. Singh .
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:32 PM dr.rakesh Singh 
> wrote:
>
>> Sida rhombifolia . Though leaves a bit on narrow side .
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 14:53 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:08 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:05 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members
>>>
>>> Location: Indra Daha, Kathmandu
>>> Date: 11 September  2019
>>> Elevation: 1550 m.
>>> Habitat : Wild ??
>>>
>>> Looks different from Sida acuta Burm.f. ??
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332405] Indigofera oblongifolia

[dr.rakesh Singh]

My pleasure sir .
Learning new , revising old .
Hope to be useful !!
ThanQ !

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 15:33 J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Rakesh ji, for the wonderful presentation and a new addition to
> efi site at *Indigofera oblongifolia* Forssk.
> 
> Distribution given is India (N) ; * Andhra Pradesh ; Daman; Delhi; Diu ;
> Gujarat ; Haryana; Karnataka; Madhaya Pradesh ; Maharashtra; Punjab;
> Rajasthan; Tamil Nadu ; Uttar Pradesh ; * Indonesia (N) ; Iran (N) ; Jawa
> (N); Pakistan (N) ; Sri Lanka (N) and other countries as per ILDIS
> ;
>
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 12:50, dr.rakesh Singh 
> wrote:
>
>> We do not have a page on this species in EFI
>> Endemic in Surat and around  ,
>> Perennial , hardy .
>> Shrub? 3-4 feet , profusely branching ,
>> Villous , grey green
>> Compound leaf , leaflets 3-6 alternate / sub-opposite
>> Recorded in Surat , Gujarat , 05 10 2019
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Re: [efloraofindia:332404] Fwd: ID-090309NSJ

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Definitely .

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 18:11 JM Garg  wrote:

> I think it should be *Hibiscus radiatus*
> 
>  as
> per images, details and keys herein.
>
> On Monday, 9 March 2009 13:24:34 UTC+5:30, raj wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> Attached herewith a photo of a flower looks like that of Allamanda /
>> Hibiscus. It belongs to a Vine and I suppose it is not Hibiscus. Pl confirm.
>>
>> Thanks & best wishes,
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Re: [efloraofindia:332402] Fwd: Malvaceae Week: Hibiscus cannabinus from Murnaadu (MW-AR02)

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Yessir !

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 18:12 JM Garg  wrote:

> I think it should be *Hibiscus radiatus*
> 
>  as
> per images, details and keys herein.
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 12:54:40 PM UTC+5:30, raghu ananth wrote:
>>
>> *Malvaceae Week: Hibiscus cannabinus from Murnaadu (MW-AR02)*
>>
>> *Planted in a home garden and cared .. unlike the gutter beauty posted
>> earlier.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/10dcd0d3e73cafc3/1885b855e27bf9fc?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=gutter+beauty#1885b855e27bf9fc
>> *
>>
>> *Season: Monsoon*
>> *Habitat: Garden, Malenadu, Western ghats*
>> *Murnaadu, Coorg*
>> *Abundance :1 plant.*
>>
>> *03 Sep 2009*
>>
>> *Ref:*
>>
>> *http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/90286/
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> *Regards*
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Re: [efloraofindia:332401] Fwd: Plant ID request

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Yessir !

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 18:16 JM Garg  wrote:

> I think it should be *Hibiscus radiatus*
> 
>  as
> per images, details and keys herein.
>
> On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 10:15:00 UTC+5:30, Indra Jha wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> Is it Okra?
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Re: [efloraofindia:332400] Fwd: Hibiscus ?

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Yessir !

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 18:16 J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I think it should be *Hibiscus radiatus*
> 
>  as
> per images, details and keys herein.
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> Subject: Hibiscus ?
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> Date: Thu 28 Jun, 2018, 4:19 PM
> Subject: Id
> To: J.M. Garg 
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>
> Hibiscus ?
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Re: [efloraofindia:332399] ID help

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Saroj ji is right . Leaf needed .

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 12:58 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> No leaf image? Habitat ? Date? Elevation ?
> Urena lobata?
>
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> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 1:07 pm, Umesh Vaghela  wrote:
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>> Photographed at Ratnagiri
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Re: [efloraofindia:332398] ID help

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Tephrosia purpurea it seems . More photos required .

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 13:00 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Pls check
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae
>
> Thank you
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> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 1:12 pm, Umesh Vaghela  wrote:
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[efloraofindia:332397] Re: SK 2205 05 October 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:03 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Yes. Appears so.
>
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 14:25, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> By the way ID is correct ??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:39 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Thank you Mr. Garg!  Only curious because no other sites mentioned that
>>> name except for POWO.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:43 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 May be due to recent publication as below (pdf available at link):
 Ototropis, a Genus Separated from Desmodium (Leguminosae)
  - Hiroyoshi Ohashia
 and Kazuaki Ohashib- J. Jpn. Bot. 87: 108–118 (2012) (Abstract- Desmodium
 subgenus Dollinera is recognized as the genus Ototropis Nees. A new
 infrageneric system of the genus, a new section Hayataea, and new
 combinations for 2 sections, 2 series, 13 species, 1 subspecies, 3
 varieties, and 1 form are proposed. Keys to
 the sections, series, and species of Ototropis, to the infraspecific
 taxa of O. elegans, and to those of O. megaphylla are presented. Dollinera
 Endl. is regarded as a superfluous name, for Ototropis, whereas Desmodium
 sect. Dollinera Benth. is validly published as a new name. Two species of
 Desmodium, D. garhwalensis Dangwal & Gaur and D. likabalium Bennet &
 Chandra, are newly included in Ototropis as synonyms)

 On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:55, Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Pharping, Kathmandu, Nepal
> Altitude: 1833m.
> Date: 02 September 2019
> Habit : Wild
>
> Desmodium multiflorum DC. ??
>
> Why only POWO has separate name but not others?
> Ototropis multiflora (DC.) H.Ohashi & K.Ohashi
> 
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: [efloraofindia:332396] Ixora Species : Muscat : 12OCT19 : AK-14

[Saroj Kasaju]

Sure  Aarti Ji !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:10 PM Aarti S. Khale 
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> We will wait for further expert comments.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:08 PM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> Please cross verify!
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:44 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj Ji,
>>> Thanks for the Species id.
>>> Regards,
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 12:33:54 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>>> wrote:

 Ixora chinensis 'Prince of Orange'   ??

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


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> Garg Ji,
> You were reviewing Ixora Species recently.
> I couldn't resist posting these.
> Clicked yesterday morning in Muscat.
> It was in full bloom, you could hardly see the leaves.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332395] Re: SK 2219 12 October 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Sida rhombifolia L. !

Thank you Dr. Singh .

Saroj Kasaju


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> Sida rhombifolia . Though leaves a bit on narrow side .
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 14:53 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:08 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
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>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:05 PM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
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>> Dear Members
>>
>> Location: Indra Daha, Kathmandu
>> Date: 11 September  2019
>> Elevation: 1550 m.
>> Habitat : Wild ??
>>
>> Looks different from Sida acuta Burm.f. ??
>>
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[efloraofindia:332393] Birthday Greetings

[Promila Chaturvedi]

Happy Birthday Mr. Dinesh  Vagle.

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Re: [efloraofindia:332393] Ixora Species : Muscat : 12OCT19 : AK-14

[Aarti S. Khale]

We will wait for further expert comments.
Regards,
Aarti

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:08 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Please cross verify!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:44 PM Aarti S. Khale 
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>> Saroj Ji,
>> Thanks for the Species id.
>> Regards,
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>>
>> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 12:33:54 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ixora chinensis 'Prince of Orange'   ??
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:38 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Garg Ji,
 You were reviewing Ixora Species recently.
 I couldn't resist posting these.
 Clicked yesterday morning in Muscat.
 It was in full bloom, you could hardly see the leaves.
 Regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:332392] Lilium Species for ID : New Jersey : 30SEP19 : AK-16

[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,
Thanks for the links.
To me also it looks quite similar.
That's the reason I had suggested initially.
Regards,
Aarti

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> To me looks similar as per
> https://garden.org/plants/multi/view/8731/
> https://garden.org/plants/view/181256/Lily-Lilium-Lemon-Ice/
> https://garden.org/plants/photo/254188/
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> Subject: [efloraofindia:331202] Lilium Species for ID : New Jersey :
> 30SEP19 : AK-16
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> Lilies seen in a cultivated garden in New Jersey on 19th June,17.
> Lilium Lemon Ice?
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Re: [efloraofindia:332390] Re: Anisomeles indica (L.) Kuntze

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Dr. Singh !

Saroj Kasaju


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> Well documented , sir ? 👍
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 15:12 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
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>> Thank you.
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>> Saroj Kasaju
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>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:25 PM Saroj Kasaju 
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>>>
>>> Thank you.
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:25 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
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 Dear Members

 Location: Indra Daha, Kathmandu
 Date: 11 September  2019
 Elevation: 1550 m.
 Habitat : Wild ??

 Thank you.

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Re: [efloraofindia:332386] Re: Anisomeles indica (L.) Kuntze

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Well documented , sir ? 👍

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 15:12 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

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> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:25 PM Saroj Kasaju 
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>>
>> Thank you.
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>>> Dear Members
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>>> Location: Indra Daha, Kathmandu
>>> Date: 11 September  2019
>>> Elevation: 1550 m.
>>> Habitat : Wild ??
>>>
>>> Thank you.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332384] MS Oct, 2019/01 Allium sp. for ID

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Allium cernuum it seems .

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 14:53 M Sawmliana  wrote:

> Location : Aizawl, Mizoram
> Date : 12-10-2019
> Habit : Herb
> Habitat : Cultivated
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[efloraofindia:332383] Re: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq. ???

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju


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> I think images should be of *Triumfetta rhomboidea* as stamen appears to
> be 10 as per discussions & keys in efi thread
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> Subject: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq. ???
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>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location:  Charikot, Nepal
> Date: 4 September 2017
> Elevation : 6100 ft.
>
> Elevation 
>
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> Thank you.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332378] Re: SK 2219 12 October 2019

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Sida rhombifolia . Though leaves a bit on narrow side .

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 14:53 Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

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> Thank you.
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>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:07 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


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> Dear Members
>
> Location: Indra Daha, Kathmandu
> Date: 11 September  2019
> Elevation: 1550 m.
> Habitat : Wild ??
>
> Looks different from Sida acuta Burm.f. ??
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[efloraofindia:332361] Re: SK 2205 05 October 2019

[J.M. Garg]

Yes. Appears so.

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 14:25, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> By the way ID is correct ??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:39 PM Saroj Kasaju 
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>>
>> Thank you Mr. Garg!  Only curious because no other sites mentioned that
>> name except for POWO.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:43 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> May be due to recent publication as below (pdf available at link):
>>> Ototropis, a Genus Separated from Desmodium (Leguminosae)
>>>  - Hiroyoshi Ohashia
>>> and Kazuaki Ohashib- J. Jpn. Bot. 87: 108–118 (2012) (Abstract- Desmodium
>>> subgenus Dollinera is recognized as the genus Ototropis Nees. A new
>>> infrageneric system of the genus, a new section Hayataea, and new
>>> combinations for 2 sections, 2 series, 13 species, 1 subspecies, 3
>>> varieties, and 1 form are proposed. Keys to
>>> the sections, series, and species of Ototropis, to the infraspecific
>>> taxa of O. elegans, and to those of O. megaphylla are presented. Dollinera
>>> Endl. is regarded as a superfluous name, for Ototropis, whereas Desmodium
>>> sect. Dollinera Benth. is validly published as a new name. Two species of
>>> Desmodium, D. garhwalensis Dangwal & Gaur and D. likabalium Bennet &
>>> Chandra, are newly included in Ototropis as synonyms)
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:55, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>>
 Dear Members,

 Location: Pharping, Kathmandu, Nepal
 Altitude: 1833m.
 Date: 02 September 2019
 Habit : Wild

 Desmodium multiflorum DC. ??

 Why only POWO has separate name but not others?
 Ototropis multiflora (DC.) H.Ohashi & K.Ohashi
 
 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju

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Re: [efloraofindia:332357] Ixora Species : Muscat : 12OCT19 : AK-14

[Saroj Kasaju]

Please cross verify!

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:44 PM Aarti S. Khale 
wrote:

> Saroj Ji,
> Thanks for the Species id.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 12:33:54 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
> wrote:
>>
>> Ixora chinensis 'Prince of Orange'   ??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:38 PM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Garg Ji,
>>> You were reviewing Ixora Species recently.
>>> I couldn't resist posting these.
>>> Clicked yesterday morning in Muscat.
>>> It was in full bloom, you could hardly see the leaves.
>>> Regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:332356] Fwd: SK 2197 26 September 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Yes Usha Di !  around INR 500 each and less.

1. A handbook of Flowering Plans of Nepal  Vol 1  ISBN : 978-9937-0-3401-2
2. A handbook of Flowering Plans of Nepal  Vol 1  ISBN : 978-9937-9248-4-9
3. Flowering Plants Discovered from Nepal ISBN : 978-9937-9248-3-2

All published by Department of Plant Resources m Govt. of Nepal.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:02 AM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> For me it is even difficult. Just I can guess.
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 8:55 am, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Question is how to verify with the keys as other aspects look similar.
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 00:46, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>
>>> I guess you are right Mr. Garg !
>>>
>>> plantillustrations.org 335551Syzygium venosum DC.Memoires de la Société
>>> de physique et d’histoire naturelle de Genève, vol. 9: t. 17 (1841-1842)
>>> [J.C. Heyland]
>>> 
>>> plantillustrations.org 335552Syzygium venosum DC. [as Syzygium areolatum
>>> DC.] Memoires de la Société de physique et d’histoire naturelle de Genève,
>>> vol. 9: t. 18 (1841-1842) [J.C. Heyland]
>>> 
>>> Recently published book the Dept of Plant Resources , Govt. of Nepal
>>> has added following sp also besides listed in the ACFPoN :
>>> S. formosum
>>> S. kurzii
>>> S. nervosum
>>> S.ramosissium
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:19 AM ushadi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 not S. cumini for sure
 Regards
 Ushadi


 On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 3:02 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> On checking with keys in Flora of Bhutan at Syzygium
> 
> ‎, there is another closely related species as per keys at
> Calyx tube 4—5mm, cup suddenly contracted into stalk-like base;
> stamens 4—
> 7mm.
> 8. S. venosum
> Calyx tube funnel-shaped, tapering and not suddenly contracted into
> stalk-like base
> ..
> 10. S. cumini
>
> Flora of Bhutan mentions, Fl. -Fr. time as June to November. So *S.
> venosum *is possible. It also gives its habitat as Warm broad-leaved
> forests and river banks in dry valleys, 300- l410m, while for S. cumini it
> gives Subtropical and warm broad-leaved forests, 200— 1580m. February
> —August.
> However, I am unable to decide based on the above keys.
>
> Complete description of *S. venosum *is as below:
> Tree 6- 25m. Leaves leathery, elliptic to obovate, 8 — 12 x 2.5 — 6cm,
> abruptly acuminate or caudate, base attenuate, glossy above, veins
> numerous, slender, weakly prominent on both surfaces, intra-marginal vein
> conspicuous; petiole 1.1 2cm. Cymes terminal and axillary, 4 — 8cm
> diameter, many-flowered; peduncle 2 —6cm. Flowers sessile. Calyx 4—5 x 
> 4—5mm,*
> cup abruptly narrowed into stalk like base*, very shallowly lobed.
> Petals white, -4mm, shed together as flowers open. Stamens cream, 4 - 7mm.
> Style c 4mm. Fruit obovoid, c lcm, fleshy when ripe, pinkish crimson.
>
> Complete description of *S. cumini *is as below:
> Tree to 25m. Leaves coriaceous, elliptic, sometimes ovate or obovate,
> 6— 13 x 3—6cm, acuminate, base cuneate, veins numerous, intra-marginal 
> vein
> +/-conspicuous; petiole 1.5—2cm. Cymes borne in axils of older and fallen
> leaves, c 8cm diameter, many-flowered; peduncle 0.5 — 10cm. Flowers 
> sessile.
> Calyx funnel-shaped, tube 3 — 5 x 2 — 3mm, *tapering into stalk-like
> base*, lobes shallow, persistent. Petals creamy, 2mm, shed as a cap.
> Stamens 2 — 5mm. Style 2 — 4mm. Fruit obliquely obovoid, l x O.6cm,
> crimson, becoming black when ripe.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Saroj Kasaju 
> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 23:01
> Subject: SK 2197 26 September 2019
> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
> jmga...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location:  Indra Daha, Kathmandu
> Altitude: 1543 m.
> Date: 18 August 2019
> Habit : Wild
>
> Syzizium??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332356] Ixora Species : Muscat : 12OCT19 : AK-14

[Aarti S. Khale]

Saroj Ji,
Thanks for the Species id.
Regards,
Aarti

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 12:33:54 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju 
wrote:
>
> Ixora chinensis 'Prince of Orange'   ??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:38 PM Aarti S. Khale  > wrote:
>
>> Garg Ji,
>> You were reviewing Ixora Species recently.
>> I couldn't resist posting these.
>> Clicked yesterday morning in Muscat.
>> It was in full bloom, you could hardly see the leaves.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti 
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Re: [efloraofindia:332354] Scrophulariaceae Fortnight: Lindernia for id from Chakrata-NS 56

[Saroj Kasaju]

Yes ! POWO as well.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:10 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Pl. see distribution in Nepal as per Catalogue of Life
> 
> ;
> Flora of China
> 
> gives distribution of *Lindernia nummulariifolia* (D. Don) Wettstein in
> Nepal.
> Listed in checklist of Nepal
> 
> as *Lindernia nummularifolia* (D. Don) Wettst.
>
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 16:28, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> Dear Mr. Garg,
>>
>> It is not listed in Nepal neither synonym.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:39 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Taking this as *Craterostigma sessiliflorum*
>>> 
>>>  in
>>> view of discussion at Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb.
>>> Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll.
>>> 
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: J.M. Garg 
>>> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 at 12:15
>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:162718] Scrophulariaceae Fortnight:
>>> Lindernia for id from Chakrata-NS 56
>>> To: efloraofindia , Samir Mehta <
>>> samirmeht...@gmail.com>, Gurcharan Singh , Balkar
>>> Singh , Nidhan Singh ,
>>> D.S Rawat , Kishanlal <
>>> kishan.1...@rediffmail.com>, Prasad Dash 
>>>
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> A nice series of images Nidhan ji.
>>> I have labeled my images of this flower as *Lindernia caespitosa*.
>>> M R Almeida's (Fl MH) keys are based capsule length wrt calyx, which I
>>> am unable to compare here (as also in my own set of images) therefore am
>>> unable to be absolutely certain.
>>> Had a quick look at FoC but no *L. caespitosa *mentioned there but
>>> something similar in what they label as Deinstema sp. - not sure whether
>>> it's applicable to India or not.
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Samir Mehta
>>> Here are the refrences, I got for *Lindernia pusilla *(Willd.) Bold.
>>> (syn. *Lindernia caespitosa* (Blume) Panigrahi):
>>>
>>> IUCN Red List (LC)  (*Lindernia
>>> pusilla* (Willd.) Bold. (Syn: *Lindernia caespitosa* (Blume) Panigrahi; 
>>> *Lindernia
>>> hirta* (Cham. & Schltdl.) Pennell; *Lindernia laxa* (Benth.) Mukherjee; 
>>> *Torenia
>>> hirta* Cham. & Schltdl.; *Vandellia scabra* Benth.)
>>>
>>> The Plant List 1  
>>> (*Lindernia
>>> caespitosa* (Blume) Panigrahi- Unresolved)
>>>
>>> The Plant List 2  
>>> (*Lindernia
>>> pusilla* (Willd.) Bold. with *Lindernia* *hirta* (Cham. & Schltdl.)
>>> Pennell ,
>>> *Lindernia* *stellariifolia* Hayata
>>> , *Torenia* *hirta* 
>>> Cham.
>>> & Schltdl.  &
>>> *Vandellia* *hirta* (Cham. & Schltdl.) T. Yamaz.
>>>  as synonyms)
>>>
>>> Annonated checklist of the flowering plants of Nepal
>>> 
>>> (*Lindernia pusilla* (Willd.) Bold. with *Lindernia* *hirta* (Cham. &
>>> Schlecht.) Pennell
>>> ,
>>> *Torenia* *hirta* Cham. & Schlecht.
>>> ,
>>> *Vandellia* *hirta* (Cham. & Schlecht.) T. Yamaz.
>>> ,
>>> *Vandellia* *pusilla* (Willd.) Merr.
>>> 
>>> & *Vandellia* *scabra* Benth.
>>> 
>>> as synonyms)
>>>
>>> Flora of China
>>>  
>>> (*Lindernia
>>> pusilla* (Willdenow) Boldingh with *Gratiola pusilla* Willdenow, Sp.
>>> Pl. 1: 105. 1797; *Lindernia hirta* (Chamisso & Schlechtendal) Pennell;
>>> *L*. *stellarifolia* Hayata; *Torenia hirta* Chamisso & Schlechtendal; 
>>> *Vandellia
>>> hirta* (Chamisso & Schlechtendal) T. Yamazaki as synonyms)
>>>
>>> It appears Lindernia nummularifolia
>>> Regards
>>> Prasad
>>>
>>>  efi page on Lindernia nummulariifolia
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Nidhan Singh 
>>> Date: 14 August 2013 21:32
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:162718] Scrophulariaceae Fortnight: Lindernia
>>> for id from

[efloraofindia:332352] Re: SK 2205 05 October 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg!  Only curious because no other sites mentioned that
name except for POWO.

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:43 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> May be due to recent publication as below (pdf available at link):
> Ototropis, a Genus Separated from Desmodium (Leguminosae)
>  - Hiroyoshi Ohashia and
> Kazuaki Ohashib- J. Jpn. Bot. 87: 108–118 (2012) (Abstract- Desmodium
> subgenus Dollinera is recognized as the genus Ototropis Nees. A new
> infrageneric system of the genus, a new section Hayataea, and new
> combinations for 2 sections, 2 series, 13 species, 1 subspecies, 3
> varieties, and 1 form are proposed. Keys to
> the sections, series, and species of Ototropis, to the infraspecific taxa
> of O. elegans, and to those of O. megaphylla are presented. Dollinera Endl.
> is regarded as a superfluous name, for Ototropis, whereas Desmodium sect.
> Dollinera Benth. is validly published as a new name. Two species of
> Desmodium, D. garhwalensis Dangwal & Gaur and D. likabalium Bennet &
> Chandra, are newly included in Ototropis as synonyms)
>
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:55, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Pharping, Kathmandu, Nepal
>> Altitude: 1833m.
>> Date: 02 September 2019
>> Habit : Wild
>>
>> Desmodium multiflorum DC. ??
>>
>> Why only POWO has separate name but not others?
>> Ototropis multiflora (DC.) H.Ohashi & K.Ohashi
>> 
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>
>
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[efloraofindia:332353] Re: SK 2205 05 October 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

By the way ID is correct ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:39 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

>
> Thank you Mr. Garg!  Only curious because no other sites mentioned that
> name except for POWO.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:43 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> May be due to recent publication as below (pdf available at link):
>> Ototropis, a Genus Separated from Desmodium (Leguminosae)
>>  - Hiroyoshi Ohashia
>> and Kazuaki Ohashib- J. Jpn. Bot. 87: 108–118 (2012) (Abstract- Desmodium
>> subgenus Dollinera is recognized as the genus Ototropis Nees. A new
>> infrageneric system of the genus, a new section Hayataea, and new
>> combinations for 2 sections, 2 series, 13 species, 1 subspecies, 3
>> varieties, and 1 form are proposed. Keys to
>> the sections, series, and species of Ototropis, to the infraspecific taxa
>> of O. elegans, and to those of O. megaphylla are presented. Dollinera Endl.
>> is regarded as a superfluous name, for Ototropis, whereas Desmodium sect.
>> Dollinera Benth. is validly published as a new name. Two species of
>> Desmodium, D. garhwalensis Dangwal & Gaur and D. likabalium Bennet &
>> Chandra, are newly included in Ototropis as synonyms)
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:55, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Pharping, Kathmandu, Nepal
>>> Altitude: 1833m.
>>> Date: 02 September 2019
>>> Habit : Wild
>>>
>>> Desmodium multiflorum DC. ??
>>>
>>> Why only POWO has separate name but not others?
>>> Ototropis multiflora (DC.) H.Ohashi & K.Ohashi
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> 
>>
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>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332351] Re: Cestrum nocturnum L.

[Saroj Kasaju]

In Nepali also same name including some more !

Cestrum nocturnum L.


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 9:00 PM ushadi  wrote:

> Hasna hena in bangla
> raat rani in gujarati
>
> nice
> but the flowers should be gregariously profuse
>
> don't know why they are so sparse
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:54 PM Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:06 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:06 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:05 PM Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

> Dear Members
>
> Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu
> Date: 10 September  2019
> Elevation: 1370 m.
> Habitat : wild.
>
> Thank you.
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332350] SK 2216 11 October 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Not Thistle .

It has been identified as Himalaiella abnormis (Lipsch.) Raab-Straube
 !

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 9:01 PM ushadi  wrote:

> thistle
> what kind?
> I ,at least ,cant tell from this picture
> sorry
>
> Regards
> Ushadi
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:37 PM Saroj Kasaju 
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>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Manang, Central Nepal
>> Date: Not known
>> Elevation: 3800 m.
>> Habitat : Wild.
>>
>> Sent by a friend.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:332349] Requesting ID of this plant - Mumbai - Oct 2013 :: 01032014 :: ARK-03

[Saroj Kasaju]

Smithia salsuginea Hance ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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> Requesting to please ID this plant growing wild by the roadside in Mumbai
> in October 2013.
> Is it some Smithia?
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Re: [efloraofindia:332348] Berries for ID : New Windsor, New York : 10OCT19 : AK-12

[Saroj Kasaju]

Leaves look slightly narrow!

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 12:35 PM Aarti S. Khale 
wrote:

> Saroj Ji,
> Another Lonicera Species native to this area is Lonicera morrowii.
> The leaves are looking very close.
> Kindly check.
>
>
> http://seedguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/lonicera-morrowii-morrows-honeysuckle.html
>
>
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:40 AM Aarti S. Khale 
> wrote:
>
>> Saroj Ji,
>> Your given id seems very close to my pictures.
>> Thanks again.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:54 AM Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj Ji,
>>> Thanks for the id.
>>> I will search further.
>>> Regards,
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 2:54:11 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>>> wrote:

 Lonicera xylosteum L. ?

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


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 wrote:

> Tiny berries in pairs seen in the woods at New Windsor in June, 17.
> These are similar to another posted earlier, which was suggested as
> Lonicera Species.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332347] Ixora Species : Muscat : 12OCT19 : AK-14

[Saroj Kasaju]

Ixora chinensis 'Prince of Orange'   ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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> You were reviewing Ixora Species recently.
> I couldn't resist posting these.
> Clicked yesterday morning in Muscat.
> It was in full bloom, you could hardly see the leaves.
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Re: [efloraofindia:332346] Re: Thunbergia laevis & Thunbergia fragrans and its varieties

[Saroj Kasaju]

That would be a good decision.

Thank you Mr. Garg.

Saoj Kasaju

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 1:52 pm, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I checked all our observations in efi site.
> I think keys above are not proper and there is no clear cut demarcation
> between the two species as pointed out by keys above.
> Lobes are quite variable with a single post showing one, one and a half
> lobes. Some are showing more than two lobes and I think it depends on the
> age of the leaf also.
> Immature leaves are showing more lobes compared to mature leaves.
>
> I think flora by Dr. Almeida gives *Thunbergia fragrans var. laevis* as a
> syn. of *Thunbergia fragrans *as per thread: Please identify this climber
> - 080311NS-8
> 
> Different sources available online, show both the species with
> contradicting descriptions, as below:
> An Excursion Flora of Central Tamilnadu, India
> 
>  By
> K. M. Matthew (1995)
> Flora of Davanagere District, Karnataka, India
> 
>  By
> B. K. Manjunatha (2004)
> Gardening in India
> 
>  By
> George Marshall Woodrow, G Marshall (1999)
>
> *In view, I feel let us have only one species as Thunbergia fragrans
> .*
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 12:37, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> We have been mostly considering our posts as *Thunbergia fragrans *Roxb
>> .
>> so far, based on references herein.
>> However, Catalogue of Life gives following with distribution in India:
>> *Thunbergia laevis *Wall. ex Nees var. *laevis*
>> 
>> (India (E- N- & peninsular India), Sri Lanka, Mauritius (I), La Runion (I),
>> Rodrigues (I), Sierra Leone (I))
>> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *parviflora* (Trimen) L. H. Cramer
>> 
>>  (Sri
>> Lanka)
>> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *vestita* (Kees) L. H. Cramer
>> 
>>  (Sri
>> Lanka)
>> *Thunbergia fragrans* subsp. *fragrans*
>> 
>>  ()
>> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *hispida* Gamble
>> 
>>  (India
>> (Andhra Pradesh))
>> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *vestita* Nees
>> 
>>  (India
>> (S-India))
>>
>> I tried to find out the differences between these and found one source at A
>> Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon -, Volume 12
>> 
>>  By
>> M. D. Dassanayake (1998)
>> Keys are as below:
>> Leaves with a pair of basal lobes on either side, flowers usually
>> solitary in leaf axils- *Thunbergia fragrans*
>> Leaves with a single basal lobes on either side or entire, flowers 2-4 in
>> leaf axils- *Thunbergia laevis*
>>
>> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem strigulose or glabrescent on
>> angles. Flowers 2-3 in leaf axils. Corola limb 10-11 mm across lateral
>> lobes.
>> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *vestita* - stem and leaves distinctly scabrid,
>> hispid or hirsute. Flowers often solitary. Capsule tomentose.
>> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem and leaves glabrous or sparsely
>> puberulous. Leaves 2.2-5.6 * 1.5-3.3 cm, generally with one basal lobe on
>> either side. Flowers 1-3 in leaf axils; pedicels slender, to 2 cm long;
>> corola less than 2.5 cm across lateral lobes.
>>
>> Right now I am not sure weather to follow them or not.
>> --
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>> J.M.Garg
>>
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>> 
>>
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[efloraofindia:332345] Re: Thunbergia laevis & Thunbergia fragrans and its varieties

[J.M. Garg]

I checked all our observations in efi site.
I think keys above are not proper and there is no clear cut demarcation
between the two species as pointed out by keys above.
Lobes are quite variable with a single post showing one, one and a half
lobes. Some are showing more than two lobes and I think it depends on the
age of the leaf also.
Immature leaves are showing more lobes compared to mature leaves.

I think flora by Dr. Almeida gives *Thunbergia fragrans var. laevis* as a
syn. of *Thunbergia fragrans *as per thread: Please identify this climber -
080311NS-8

Different sources available online, show both the species with
contradicting descriptions, as below:
An Excursion Flora of Central Tamilnadu, India

By
K. M. Matthew (1995)
Flora of Davanagere District, Karnataka, India

By
B. K. Manjunatha (2004)
Gardening in India

By
George Marshall Woodrow, G Marshall (1999)

*In view, I feel let us have only one species as Thunbergia fragrans
.*


On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 12:37, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> We have been mostly considering our posts as *Thunbergia fragrans *Roxb
> .
> so far, based on references herein.
> However, Catalogue of Life gives following with distribution in India:
> *Thunbergia laevis *Wall. ex Nees var. *laevis*
> 
> (India (E- N- & peninsular India), Sri Lanka, Mauritius (I), La Runion (I),
> Rodrigues (I), Sierra Leone (I))
> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *parviflora* (Trimen) L. H. Cramer
> 
>  (Sri
> Lanka)
> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *vestita* (Kees) L. H. Cramer
> 
>  (Sri
> Lanka)
> *Thunbergia fragrans* subsp. *fragrans*
> 
>  ()
> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *hispida* Gamble
> 
>  (India
> (Andhra Pradesh))
> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *vestita* Nees
> 
>  (India
> (S-India))
>
> I tried to find out the differences between these and found one source at A
> Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon -, Volume 12
> 
>  By
> M. D. Dassanayake (1998)
> Keys are as below:
> Leaves with a pair of basal lobes on either side, flowers usually solitary
> in leaf axils- *Thunbergia fragrans*
> Leaves with a single basal lobes on either side or entire, flowers 2-4 in
> leaf axils- *Thunbergia laevis*
>
> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem strigulose or glabrescent on
> angles. Flowers 2-3 in leaf axils. Corola limb 10-11 mm across lateral
> lobes.
> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *vestita* - stem and leaves distinctly scabrid,
> hispid or hirsute. Flowers often solitary. Capsule tomentose.
> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem and leaves glabrous or sparsely
> puberulous. Leaves 2.2-5.6 * 1.5-3.3 cm, generally with one basal lobe on
> either side. Flowers 1-3 in leaf axils; pedicels slender, to 2 cm long;
> corola less than 2.5 cm across lateral lobes.
>
> Right now I am not sure weather to follow them or not.
> --
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> J.M.Garg
>
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> 
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Re: [efloraofindia:332343] ID help

[Saroj Kasaju]

Pls check
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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> Photographed at Ratnagiri
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Re: [efloraofindia:332342] ID help

[Saroj Kasaju]

No leaf image? Habitat ? Date? Elevation ?
Urena lobata?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[efloraofindia:332340] ID help

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[efloraofindia:332339] Re: Thunbergia laevis & Thunbergia fragrans and its varieties

[J.M. Garg]

Distribution of *Thunbergia fragrans* subsp. *fragrans*

is
as below:
Myanmar [Burma] (Mandalay, Yangon), Bangladesh, China (Guizhou, Guangdong,
Guangxi, Sichuan, Yunnan), Laos, Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines
(throughout), Sulawesi, Sumatra, Moluccas, Lesser Sunda Isl., Sumatra,
Java, India (throughout), Bhutan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Pakistan (I), Singapore
(I), Society Isl. (I) (Tahiti (I), Raiatea (I), Huahine (I), Maupiti (I)),
Tonga (I) (Vava'u (I)), Austral Isl. (I) (Tubuai (I)), Niue (I), Fiji (I),
New Caledonia (I), Hawaii (I) (Kauai (I), Oahu (I), Maui (I), Hawaii Isl.
(I), Molokai (I), Lanai (I)), Rotuma Isl. (I), Seychelles (I), USA (I)
(Florida (I)), Costa Rica (I), Peru (I), Cuba (I), Peru (I), Panama (I),
Belize (I), Jamaica (I), Nicaragua (I), Guatemala (I), Puerto Rico (I),
Surinam (I), Ecuador (I), Brazil (I), Haiti (I), Dominican Republic (I),
Mexico (I), Venezuela (I), Lesser Antilles (I) (Anguilla (I), Antigua (I),
Saba (I), St. Kitts (I), Nevis (I), Montserrat (I), Guadeloupe (I),
Dominica (I), Martinique (I), St. Lucia (I), St. Vincent (I), Grenadines
(I), Grenada (I), Barbados (I)), Trinidad (I), Bahamas (I), Virgin Isl. (I)
(St. Croix (I), St. John (I), St. Thomas (I), Tortola (I)), Colombia (I)
(Antioquia (I), Bolvar (I), Boyac (I), Cauca (I), Choc (I), Cundinamarca
(I), Nario (I), Quindo (I), San Andrs (I), Providencia y Santa Catalina
(I), Santander (I), Valle (I)), Bolivia (I), Honduras (I)

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 12:37, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> We have been mostly considering our posts as *Thunbergia fragrans *Roxb
> .
> so far, based on references herein.
> However, Catalogue of Life gives following with distribution in India:
> *Thunbergia laevis *Wall. ex Nees var. *laevis*
> 
> (India (E- N- & peninsular India), Sri Lanka, Mauritius (I), La Runion (I),
> Rodrigues (I), Sierra Leone (I))
> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *parviflora* (Trimen) L. H. Cramer
> 
>  (Sri
> Lanka)
> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *vestita* (Kees) L. H. Cramer
> 
>  (Sri
> Lanka)
> *Thunbergia fragrans* subsp. *fragrans*
> 
>  ()
> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *hispida* Gamble
> 
>  (India
> (Andhra Pradesh))
> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *vestita* Nees
> 
>  (India
> (S-India))
>
> I tried to find out the differences between these and found one source at A
> Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon -, Volume 12
> 
>  By
> M. D. Dassanayake (1998)
> Keys are as below:
> Leaves with a pair of basal lobes on either side, flowers usually solitary
> in leaf axils- *Thunbergia fragrans*
> Leaves with a single basal lobes on either side or entire, flowers 2-4 in
> leaf axils- *Thunbergia laevis*
>
> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem strigulose or glabrescent on
> angles. Flowers 2-3 in leaf axils. Corola limb 10-11 mm across lateral
> lobes.
> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *vestita* - stem and leaves distinctly scabrid,
> hispid or hirsute. Flowers often solitary. Capsule tomentose.
> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem and leaves glabrous or sparsely
> puberulous. Leaves 2.2-5.6 * 1.5-3.3 cm, generally with one basal lobe on
> either side. Flowers 1-3 in leaf axils; pedicels slender, to 2 cm long;
> corola less than 2.5 cm across lateral lobes.
>
> Right now I am not sure weather to follow them or not.
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
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> 
>
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[efloraofindia:332338] Thunbergia laevis & Thunbergia fragrans and its varieties

[J.M. Garg]

We have been mostly considering our posts as *Thunbergia fragrans *Roxb
.
so far, based on references herein.
However, Catalogue of Life gives following with distribution in India:
*Thunbergia laevis *Wall. ex Nees var. *laevis*

(India (E- N- & peninsular India), Sri Lanka, Mauritius (I), La Runion (I),
Rodrigues (I), Sierra Leone (I))
*Thunbergia laevis* var. *parviflora* (Trimen) L. H. Cramer

(Sri
Lanka)
*Thunbergia laevis* var. *vestita* (Kees) L. H. Cramer

(Sri
Lanka)
*Thunbergia fragrans* subsp. *fragrans*

 ()
*Thunbergia fragrans* var. *hispida* Gamble

(India
(Andhra Pradesh))
*Thunbergia fragrans* var. *vestita* Nees

(India
(S-India))

I tried to find out the differences between these and found one source at A
Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon -, Volume 12

By
M. D. Dassanayake (1998)
Keys are as below:
Leaves with a pair of basal lobes on either side, flowers usually solitary
in leaf axils- *Thunbergia fragrans*
Leaves with a single basal lobes on either side or entire, flowers 2-4 in
leaf axils- *Thunbergia laevis*

*Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem strigulose or glabrescent on
angles. Flowers 2-3 in leaf axils. Corola limb 10-11 mm across lateral
lobes.
*Thunbergia laevis *var. *vestita* - stem and leaves distinctly scabrid,
hispid or hirsute. Flowers often solitary. Capsule tomentose.
*Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem and leaves glabrous or sparsely
puberulous. Leaves 2.2-5.6 * 1.5-3.3 cm, generally with one basal lobe on
either side. Flowers 1-3 in leaf axils; pedicels slender, to 2 cm long;
corola less than 2.5 cm across lateral lobes.

Right now I am not sure weather to follow them or not.
-- 
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J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'


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world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
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database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
 of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
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Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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