Dear Friends,

Many thanks for sharing your views which are very pertinent. There is no doubt that India urgently needs a comprehensive E-Flora. Active members of e-flora of India and Indantreepix can contribute significantly towards achieving this. The Ministry of Environment, Forest & Climate Change needs to take a bold decision on this.

Best regards,

G. S. Rawat
Professor
Wildlife Institute of India
Dehra Dun
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On 21-10-2014 21:46, D.S Rawat wrote:
While going through some unread parts of eFI I found this discussion interesting. Attaching two published documents- one by me and the other by BSI to clarify their stand in this regard.

On Friday, September 25, 2009 11:19:41 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:

    Hi, Dr. Rawat ji & Dr. Madhav ji,
    There has been lot of discussion on your report & also before this.
    I am summarising only important aspects/ views for your kind
    perusal pl. so these are properly taken care of in your final report.
    Burning issue remains the creation of *e-flora of India & use of
    advance modern tools like 'Indiantreepix' e-group* /for achieving
    different goals, from the *Approach* suggested in your draft./
    _1. From R. Vijayasankar, Systematic Botanist, National Herbarium
    of Medicinal Plants, Foundation for Revitalisation of Local Health
    Traditions (FRLHT)
    [Centre of Excellence for Medicinal Plants & Traditional
    Knowledge], Bangalore-560 064, Mobile: 9448970441_
    Respected Prof. Madhav Gadgil Ji & Dr. G.S. Rawat,

    I wish to congratulate the Task Force team for preparing
    comprehensive recommendations for revitalization of BSI/ZSI.
    Thanks for circulating the draft report for public’s opinion.

    The recommendations are clear and complete. However, I (in fact
    thousands of botanists/ plant lovers) wish the following tasks to
    be given more emphasis as high priority tasks to be executed by
    BSI, with collaboration wherever possible:

    1. An UPDATED ‘Checklist of Flowering Plants of India’ with
    ADEQUATE details should be published ONLINE without further delay.

    2. Floras should also be published electronically (‘e-Flora of
    India’) and that should be comprehensive in nature and freely
    accessible to all. For this a dedicated task force, as also
    suggested by your team, should be set up with expert members from
    various institutions across the country, under the
    co-ordination/direction of BSI. To start with state/ regional
    e-Floras to be prepared/supported by BSI. These collectively can
    contribute for preparation of e-Flora of India.

    3. A NATIONAL LEVEL electronic ‘Virtual Herbarium’ should be
    developed and REGULARLY updated. All Type specimens, in addition
    to others, of all Indian plants should be digitized and made
    accessible to the public.

    4. Publication of the reputed ‘Bulletin of Botanical Survey of
    India’ should be regular and made ONLINE WITH FULL ACCESS. [Only
    electronic version of papers/articles to be accepted and hard
    prints (often several hard copies required by different journals)
    should NOT be accepted, as an effort towards conservation of trees
    and the environment (will other journals consider this too?)].

    5. There are many Ph.D. theses/ reports on district floras and
    revisionary works remain unpublished. These should be carefully
    updated and published.

    6. Lastly, but importantly, the threat status of native plant
    species that are facing serious threat of extinction (1000-1500
    spp.?) should be QUICKLY assessed in order to identify the
    PRIORITY species that require IMMEDIATE conservation action.

    _2. Rajesh Sachdev, Moderator, Indiantreepix _
    I fully support Vijayshankarji, specially on first two points
    which are much critical and have larger  importance as well.

    3. _From Dr. E S SANTHOSH KUMAR, Tropical Botanic Garden and
    Research Institute, Palode, Thiruvananthapuram-695562, Kerala, India_
    Kindly add my  suggestion  to the draft copy under the heading
    *Capacity building: district level scientific community and
    barefoot taxonomists
    *
    Establishment of a few Systematic Gardens associated with major
    research institutes/botanic gardens will be beneficial to the
    students of botany and these will cater their need as a ‘living
    text book’ for systematic study. Students/amateur botanist can be
    trained in these gardens.
    Many thanks

    4. _From J.M.Garg, Co-ordinator 'Indiantreepix' e-group_
    "Flora and Fauna of India

    The primary mandate of the BSI/ZSI is to document the plant/
    animal resources of the country. Hence an important focus of their
    activity would be to complete the Flora/ Fauna of India. India has
    produced a large number of fine taxonomists, many of whom work
    outside BSI/ZSI, e.g., universities, research organizations and as
    emeritus scientists. Therefore, it is important  that BSI/ZSI now
    take on the role of coordinating and pooling the expertise of all
    the taxonomists including those working outside this organization
    to consolidate the Flora and Fauna of India volumes. This is
    particularly important because the local field biologists and
    experts who have spent a considerable amount of time in a
    particular geographical area can add tremendous information on
    habitat, associations, biogeography and population status. Floras/
    Faunas written by the individuals having limited field knowledge,
    merely based on the museum/ herbarium specimens lack in such
    information. Coordinated work on Flora/ Fauna of India should also
    include all the works on various taxonomic groups done through
    AICOPTAX Project of MoEF. Such coordination would of course
    require a strong editorial board and a few full time dedicated
    executive secretaries. This should be achievable in 10 years and
    should figure out as Priority I in BSI/ZSI’s Vision 2020
    document.  This could be achieved in the following phases:
    i.        Establish a panel of experienced and active taxonomists
    for each state and take their consent on participation in Flora /
    Fauna Project,
    ii.        Prepare an annotated checklist of vascular plants and
    other taxa under consideration for each state / UTs based on all
    published documents and herbaria, giving local names, if any,
    locality and habitat,
    iii.      Circulate the electronic version of checklists among the
    panel of botanists/ zoologists who would, in turn, check for
    omissions, ambiguities, localities and habitat through active
    consultation with other local botanists/ zoologists,
    iv.     To begin with, state floras/ faunas should be published
    electronically giving correct names, basionyms, localities,
    habitat, sketches and photographs of important species preferably
    on an interactive ‘Flora/ Fauna of India Blog’. On this page all
    naturalists, photographers and biological artists should be
    encouraged to contribute information on taxonomy, distribution,
    natural history, biology, ethnobiology,  etc. This will also act
    as an outreach programme for all the biologists. The
    ethnobiological surveys should be done mainly by the local
    biologists, college and university teachers, working with local
    Biodiversity Management Committees under technical guidance by
    BSI/ZSI.
    v.      An editorial board may be constituted at the national
    level to decide the format of the flora/ fauna and also assign
    plant/ animal families for compilation which should include
    nomenclature, description, ecology, natural history, distribution,
    sketches and photographs."

    I am not clear what it means by ‘Flora/ Fauna of India Blog’ &
    seek Madhav ji's guidance in the matter particularly w.r.t the
    word Blog. Also it is not clear whether it will be accessible to
    all or not. I think any restriction on its access as far as its
    contents are concerned, should go away in view of the 'Approach'
    followed  in the paper (as subsequently highlighted). While it is
    encouraging to see " To begin with, state floras/ faunas should be
    published electronically giving correct names, basionyms,
    localities, habitat, sketches and photographs of important species
    preferably on an interactive ‘Flora/ Fauna of India Blog’. " in
    the draft, there is hardly anything which talks of creating
    e-flora of India on the lines of e-flora of China & other
    neighbouring countries. I feel  'AICOPTAX Project' of MoEF should
    be sufficiently strengthened with a mandate for simultaneously
    creating of e-Flora/ e-Fauna of India on lines of e-Floras of
    different countries of the world. How to go about creating
    e-floras is evident at link:
    
http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/PDF/misc/eFloras_Taxon_55_188-192_2006.pdf
    
<http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/PDF/misc/eFloras_Taxon_55_188-192_2006.pdf>

    This becomes all the more important as the report in its
    'Approach' rightly talks of "......Finally, the culmination of
    evolution of artifacts to the present day Information and
    Communication Technology has brought us to the threshold of a
    tenth major transition: x] Language based human societies –to-
    Human societies with global access to the entire stock of human
    knowledge, and engaged in an endeavour of collaborative knowledge
    generation." This approach will remain an illusion until & unless
    we are able to create e-Flora/ e-Fauna of India which is
    accessible to all human community & appear in top 10 while
    searching as far as 'Indian species' are concerned. The need of
    the hour is to move fast in this regard, if India is to be visible
    on the world map. It is said that we have to refer to 'e-Flora of
    China', 'e-Flora of Pakistan' etc. when we search on net for
    information about any Indian plant species.We hardly find any inf.
    on search in our "......national networks like DBT’s India
    Biodiversity Information Network (IBIN) and NBA’s India
    Biodiversity Information System (IBIS)." as talked about in the
    report.

    Further if the dreams of its 'Approach'  "......Finally, the
    culmination of evolution of artifacts to the present day
    Information and Communication Technology has brought us to the
    threshold of a tenth major transition: x] Language based human
    societies –to- Human societies with global access to the entire
    stock of human knowledge, and engaged in an endeavour of
    collaborative knowledge generation." are to be fulfilled in this
    e-age, it has to speak loudly about increasing participation &
    expertise in on-line community activities like those of
    'Indiantreepix' google e-group, regarding which it is totally
    silent. Here information is shared on real time basis for the
    benefit of all stakeholders, minimising delays & fastening
    processes, following multi-disciplinary approach with membership
    from diverse background. This should also help in the process of
    constant learning in ones' career & creating passionate
    scientists/ taxonomists aided/ guided by other willing scientists/
    taxonomists. This should also help in *"Capacity building:
    scientists"* & *"Capacity building: district level scientific
    community and barefoot taxonomists under "7)Human Resources"*
    _5. From Dr. Gurcharan Singh, Associate Professor, Department of
    Botany, SGTB Khalsa College
    University of Delhi, Delhi-110007:_
    I strongly feel that the vast information lying in hard covers of
    BSI/ZSI journals, publications, Fascicles of Flora of India, Flora
    of India volumes, has to come out on the internet so that we may
    not fend for information and identification, the Efloras of
    Pakistan, China, North America, etc. There is need for compilation
    of this information, and I feel there are numerous experts even
    outside BSI and ZSI who can collaborate. Our Eflora could be much
    more meaningful with links to authentic identified photographs of
    plants from India. We have huge databases of photographs on
    Indiantreepix, Flowers of India and several similar privately
    managed sites, which can be requested to collaborate and share
    their data.
         For ongoing research on Indian plants it is imperative have
    have our herbarium specimens (at least representative ones) and
    type specimens are scanned/photographed and uploaded as virtual
    herbarium  in lines of Fairchild virtual herbarium, Kew virtual
    herbarium, Australian Virtual herbarium and Virtual herbarium of
    New York Botanical Garden.
        We have to open up if Indian research has to progress
    _6. From Sh. Prashant Awale, Moderator 'Indiantreepix':_
    I agree with the Dr Singh ji's view. Also, their has to be some
    mechanism to get in touch with experts from BSI so that we can
    share our experiences on flora of a particular region with them
    and it might turned out to be totally new finding. Many of us are
    frequently visiting various remote locations and information
    gathered on flora from these areas might turned out to be of some
    use to BSI. Some mechanism where by individuals / group can
    interact with BSI should be available.
    Already database like those of "Flowers of India" ,
    "IndianTreePix" has come long way (Thanks to initiave by Mr Tabish
    Ji, Mr Garg Ji) as more and more enthusiastics from various field
    (Botanists, Nature lovers, Trekkers etc..) has contributed in some
    way or other.
    _7. Dr. Aparna Watve:_
    Dear All,
    Considering all the serious discussions going on so far on various
    identities, use of family names, I am so happy to realize how
    thisgroup is slowly maturing. People are discussing technical
    terms, use of correct family names, below species ranks and
    nomenclature- things which only the trained plant taxonomists
    bothered with. Owing to this I feel the need to talk about more
    use of standard floras and monographs which i had talked of in the
    past. Relying only on handbooks, which are generally region
    specific and can have only a limited number of species and
    descriptions as compared to our vast diversity of flora, is good
    for beginners. But at this stage, the serious ones on this group -
    and there are many- should devote time to library and referencing
    work- not from a single book (as it is not possible) but from
    various standard references and then form their
    opinion on identity of a species. In many cases the taxonomic
    literature is also influenced by varied opinions of the
    taxonomists and it is actually fun to read how some plant species
    have baffled generations of plantwatchers.
    _8. Dr. Gurcharan Singh:_
    Aparna ji,
    You have initiated a very valuable topic for the sake of our group
    and the National Flora. While there is need for nomenclatural and
    identity uniformity at India level and regional level,
    unfortunately very little has recently been done at national
    level, some very good regional publications have come up for us to
    bank upon, discuss and arrive at a meaningful conclusion. Science
    today is dynamic process, and it does not take a minute for new
    information to reach www, for all of us to benefit from. It needs
    a lot of time for a national compilation to come up.

         But then there is a catch. There is also lot of wrong
    information flying around on the internet, but with so many able
    minded and sincere people around, we can (and have been) sieve the
    right information.
    _9. Janaki Turaga, member 'Indiantreepix'_
    Dear Aparna,
    For a majority of people: it is the question of access. From where
    does one have access to all these monographs, of which many of us
    are not even aware of?
    Unless someone lists all the monographs and other related works
    and puts them up for access on the internet which is accessible to
    all the people in the group.
    In absence of accessible knowledge, the key source of information
    are the fieldguides which are accessible in the lay public domain.
    And some internet sites which are maintained by people who are
    deeply interested in the areas.
    Interest groups like this group rely mainly on fieldguides, some
    good internet sites and very importantly-peers who have built
    their interest to a very high level and some professionals/subject
    specialists who sustain the group. I have learnt a lot from the
    peers in all the groups that I am a member of.
    We all would like to take things ahead, but we should have the
    awareness of and access to these resource.
    The issue is that of access and knowledge of the monographs etc.
    If some of the subject specialists in this group who do have
    access to these resources, can make them available to the rest of
    the group, then I feel a majority of people will benefit.
    Janaki Turaga
    _10. Dr. Rakesh Biswas:_
    /Quoting Rashida:

    serious reference work one should do in a  library. I feel no
    amount of links and material available on the internet can really
    at this stage, substitute the research work one needs to carry out
    from acknowledged authors, volumes of flora of a state or region,
    wealth of India volumes, and related articals in magazines and
    scientifc journals./
    I wonder if the problem could be simply solved by transferring all
    the libraries into a web space as most web based user driven
    learning activists are engaged in doing?

    Quoting from the first chapter in this book (which also contains a
    subsequent chapter contributed by members of Indiantreepix):
    http://www.igi-global.com/requests/details.asp?ID=657
    <http://www.igi-global.com/requests/details.asp?ID=657>

    Traditionally libraries have been considered as temples of
    learning and an important requirement for a library user is
    ‘silence’ which in effect means that the individual user needs to
    imbibe whatever learning available on his/her own from books or
    whatever other media available.

    However in such an isolated learning environment, the single
    individual
    has no access to a second opinion from another person, no access
    to a complementary perspective, or external critique, neither does
    the single individual have any chance to get complementary
    literature from anyone which might have a different reference
    library. Given this, there is not much social interaction in this
    kind of traditional learning environment. (Wiberg 2007)

    However in modern libraries it is able to break past this
    ‘silence’ barrier where the library user predominantly browses an
    electronic information network rather than a paper based
    disconnected media.

    Unfortunately, this advantage of the modern library is under
    utilized as even systems for online universities, or distance
    education may not have adequate support or encouragement for
    social interaction. Most of these systems assume a centralized
    communication model in which the learning peers (i.e. the
    students) mostly communicate with one central peer (i.e. a mentor
    or advisor). This leads in many cases to communication related to
    the structure rather than the content of an online education and
    does not support spontaneous, creative social learning processes.
    (Wiberg 2007)

    What it is to be knowledgeable can be defined either in terms of
    how much one person has read and learned in isolation, or how
    knowledgeable a particular person is about different threads to
    grasp in order to gain access to other peers in different social
    networks. The latter concept pinpoints the social dimension of
    learning processes, the social interaction setting, and goes back
    to a Socratic understanding of knowledge gaining through
    conversations and argumentations with others.

    Learning schools are redirecting the focus from what has been
    labeled “traditional computer-based learning environments” towards
    user-driven learning networks supported by social internet based
    applications. The assumption that computer-mediated learning will
    occur in the classroom, managed by a teacher, is now being
    challenged, not by schools and educational software developers,
    but by the consumer growth of personal technologies. (Sharples 2002)
    _11. Dr. Gurcharan Singh:_
    The main topic of discussion here is whether the huge wealth of
    research information lying in libraries of major Universities,
    BSI/ZSI is available to the average plant lover are not. Agreed
    serious researchers need libraries to work, but we are talking of
    taking knowledge to the general public and what is the best means
    of making information available to them. I have several volumes of
    Flora of Pakistan, a few of Flora of India, but please search
    through your libraries and let me know how many have all volumes
    of Flora of India published by BSI, how many have volumes Pakistan
    Flora, and more importantly Flora of China, which has so many
    plants common with our flora. Contrary to this I can sitting in
    Delhi, California or anywhere else have access to Efloras, and can
    identify my plants.
    We are aiming to take information to the common man, and www is
    the best medium for that.
    But as I wrote earlier, there is some misinformation on the
    internet, but there are then also meanins of sieving it. This
    group has proved that many a times.
    There are many important researchers active in BSI/ZSI and
    different Universities. But the important question is have we all
    benefitted from that?. WWW is there to pupularise that. Today if I
    have to find any new research and development in Taxonomy I browse
    APWeb and always find something new.
-- With regards,
    J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com <mailto:jmga...@gmail.com>)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
    'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
    Image Resource of thousands of my images of Birds, Butterflies,
    Flora etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise):
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg
    <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg>
    For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group-
    Indiantreepix:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
    <http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en>


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