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On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:09 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Garg ji for the keys and analysis. > Updating this post with the concluded ID ... *Aristolochia elegans* Mast. > ... as per discussion in another post > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/X4FCViRQ83U/lX8klUh4BwAJ>. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 10:04 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks Garg ji. >> The posted plant, clearly has a conspicuous ear-like structure >> (auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf stalk. Thus, as per >> keys, will be not *A. gigantea*. >> I suggest we also pay heed to the fruits which are different looking >> among the above listed species. >> Will return to this post when I find the plant in flowering as well as >> fruiting. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 5:38 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I could get the differences between the closely elated species from Lucid >>> Central >>> <https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/aristolochia_elegans.htm> >>> as below: >>> >>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia elegans*) is similar to several closely >>> related introduced species that have also become naturalised in Australia, >>> including pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*), fragrant >>> Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) and gaping Dutchman's >>> pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*). It is also very similar to the >>> cultivated giant dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia gigantea*) which >>> is often confused with pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) in >>> the horticultural industry. These species can be distinguished by the >>> following differences: >>> >>> - *Dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia elegans) has a small ear-like >>> structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf >>> stalk*. >>> Its flowers are relatively large and broad (up to 7.5 cm long and 10 cm >>> wide) and its relatively large fruit (4-6 cm long and about 2.5 cm wide) >>> are oblong in shape with a short projection (about 10 mm long) at the >>> tip. >>> >>> - *giant dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia gigantea ) does not >>> have a small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the >>> base of each leaf stalk*. Its flowers are very large and broad (up >>> to 30 cm long and 20 cm wide) and its relatively large fruit (up to 8 cm >>> long and 3 cm wide) are oblong in shape with a very short projection at >>> the >>> tip. >>> >>> - pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) does not have a small >>> ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each >>> leaf stalk. Its flowers are very large (up to 25 cm long) with a very >>> elongated projection at the base of the flower (i.e. appendix) 20-50 cm >>> long. Its very large fruit are oblong in shape (about 10 cm long and 4-6 >>> cm >>> wide). >>> >>> - fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) has a small >>> ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each >>> leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and broad (6-12 cm wide) and >>> its moderately large fruit (4.5-8 cm long and 1-1.5 cm wide) are oblong >>> in >>> shape and slightly curved. >>> >>> - gaping Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*) has a small >>> ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each >>> leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and narrow (10-25 cm long) >>> and >>> are split into an upper and lower lobe. >>> >>> >>> On 10 May 2018 at 18:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Are the bract like thing also look similar between these two species? >>>> >>>> On Thu 10 May, 2018, 5:48 PM Dinesh Valke, <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Checked leaves of both species; they look alike. Let us wait for >>>>> flowering. >>>>> ID of *Aristolochia gigantea* got from the gardener. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:04 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Dinesh ji, >>>>>> We do not have this species in efi site. >>>>>> It looks similar to *Aristolochia elegans* Mast. >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/aristolochiaceae/aristolochia/aristolochia-littoralis> >>>>>> in efi site. >>>>>> Pl. check. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23 April 2018 at 21:44, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: TMC Biodiversity Park] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F40580764695%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEGVLFDRKvmf0HbjBtqXM2slId9ow> >>>>>>> TMC Biodiversity Park Thane >>>>>>> *Date*: April 22, 2018 ... *Altitude*: about 15 m (50 feet) asl >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *Aristolochia gigantea* Mart. >>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F27751597988%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnYTlAq1e9_No2ttD-eY8Az3BVdQ> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F41620486471%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGQoX4qlzzwxeAp-46ixIw6mnb0xw> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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