Thanks very much, Usha di. Regards. dinesh On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:02 PM Ushadi Micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> like the diligence and collegiality in this thread > thats why we are here > > love it > usha di > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:09 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks Garg ji for the keys and analysis. >> Updating this post with the concluded ID ... *Aristolochia elegans* >> Mast. ... as per discussion in another post >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/X4FCViRQ83U/lX8klUh4BwAJ>. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 10:04 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Garg ji. >>> The posted plant, clearly has a conspicuous ear-like structure >>> (auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf stalk. Thus, as per >>> keys, will be not *A. gigantea*. >>> I suggest we also pay heed to the fruits which are different looking >>> among the above listed species. >>> Will return to this post when I find the plant in flowering as well as >>> fruiting. >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 5:38 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I could get the differences between the closely elated species from Lucid >>>> Central >>>> <https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/aristolochia_elegans.htm> >>>> as below: >>>> >>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia elegans*) is similar to several closely >>>> related introduced species that have also become naturalised in Australia, >>>> including pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*), fragrant >>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) and gaping Dutchman's >>>> pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*). It is also very similar to the >>>> cultivated giant dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia gigantea*) which >>>> is often confused with pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) in >>>> the horticultural industry. These species can be distinguished by the >>>> following differences: >>>> >>>> - *Dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia elegans) has a small ear-like >>>> structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf >>>> stalk*. >>>> Its flowers are relatively large and broad (up to 7.5 cm long and 10 cm >>>> wide) and its relatively large fruit (4-6 cm long and about 2.5 cm wide) >>>> are oblong in shape with a short projection (about 10 mm long) at the >>>> tip. >>>> >>>> - *giant dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia gigantea ) does not >>>> have a small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the >>>> base of each leaf stalk*. Its flowers are very large and broad (up >>>> to 30 cm long and 20 cm wide) and its relatively large fruit (up to 8 cm >>>> long and 3 cm wide) are oblong in shape with a very short projection at >>>> the >>>> tip. >>>> >>>> - pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) does not have a small >>>> ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each >>>> leaf stalk. Its flowers are very large (up to 25 cm long) with a very >>>> elongated projection at the base of the flower (i.e. appendix) 20-50 cm >>>> long. Its very large fruit are oblong in shape (about 10 cm long and >>>> 4-6 cm >>>> wide). >>>> >>>> - fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) has a >>>> small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of >>>> each leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and broad (6-12 cm >>>> wide) >>>> and its moderately large fruit (4.5-8 cm long and 1-1.5 cm wide) are >>>> oblong >>>> in shape and slightly curved. >>>> >>>> - gaping Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*) has a small >>>> ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each >>>> leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and narrow (10-25 cm long) >>>> and >>>> are split into an upper and lower lobe. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 May 2018 at 18:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are the bract like thing also look similar between these two species? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu 10 May, 2018, 5:48 PM Dinesh Valke, <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Checked leaves of both species; they look alike. Let us wait for >>>>>> flowering. >>>>>> ID of *Aristolochia gigantea* got from the gardener. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:04 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, Dinesh ji, >>>>>>> We do not have this species in efi site. >>>>>>> It looks similar to *Aristolochia elegans* Mast. >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/aristolochiaceae/aristolochia/aristolochia-littoralis> >>>>>>> in efi site. >>>>>>> Pl. check. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 April 2018 at 21:44, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: TMC Biodiversity Park] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F40580764695%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEGVLFDRKvmf0HbjBtqXM2slId9ow> >>>>>>>> TMC Biodiversity Park Thane >>>>>>>> *Date*: April 22, 2018 ... *Altitude*: about 15 m (50 feet) asl >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *Aristolochia gigantea* Mart. >>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F27751597988%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnYTlAq1e9_No2ttD-eY8Az3BVdQ> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F41620486471%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGQoX4qlzzwxeAp-46ixIw6mnb0xw> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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