A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this image: Piper peepulloides. PLM
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:47, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tailed%20Pepper.html > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FTailed%2520Pepper.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEc3biXnckmTsWt_Ghj3_NakW72LA> > - > from me > FoI says it is introduced ! > Piper cubeba - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Piper_cubeba > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiwppO-0tPpAhVXIbcAHTqyBY4QFjACegQIDBAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPiper_cubeba&usg=AOvVaw3aps_Kp2EXKnNei7VQi4R2> > Piper cubeba L. fil. | Species | India Biodiversity > Portalindiabiodiversity.org › species › show > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiwppO-0tPpAhVXIbcAHTqyBY4QFjADegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Findiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F230716&usg=AOvVaw0UL2j2FlQZ2no0gy0VS3G-> > Thank you. > Saroj Kasaju > > Could be something else. But it doesn't look like Piper khasianum because > in P. khasianum leaves are 6-10 cm long, and flower spikes are much > shorter, 2-3 cm. In Prashant's plant the spikes look as long as the leaves. > Tabish > > It is not seen anywhere in the following publications on Piper Species in > India: > Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India > <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.289.2.9> - > PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017 > Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the > *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45 > species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of *Peperomia* > from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri Lanka as well as > the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper was treated under > six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present day India. Several > years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species of Piper and eight > of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper that were new, > although they were not described fully until 1925. A number of new species > and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller Argoviensis (1871), C. > de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran et al. (1987), Babu et > al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), Lekhak et al. (2012), and > Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some regional accounts of the genus > Piper were also published, including Rahiman & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, > Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) > from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. Long (1984) published an account > of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that included records from Sikkim, wherein he > suggested some new synonyms. A critical examination of these publications > points to their limitations concerning some of the identities and > nomenclature. > Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II > <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - > PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018 > Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from > India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are > considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The > scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five > synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes > are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with > their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of > particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused > identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to > earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. rhytidocarpum*. > Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are recorded for three > species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* P. pothoides*. - from me > > Are this links reliable? > Shital Chini - Cubeb > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj96sOt4tPpAhVtxzgGHZi5CMIQFjAGegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdir.indiamart.com%2Fimpcat%2Fcubeb.html&usg=AOvVaw12vRZ8JfRg9BKRGzYPbgte> > Piper Cubeba > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj96sOt4tPpAhVtxzgGHZi5CMIQFjAIegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motherherbs.com%2Fpiper-cubeba.html&usg=AOvVaw16PA_6JHZcv668xs_hlWMz> > By the way can we rely on IBP where it is mentioned? > http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=1672 > Thank you. > Saroj Kasaju > > Reliable document on published documents I have given you - from me > > Just my opinion as found in the Net ! Basically I have not much knowledge > about > Indian flora distribution ! But many sources says it is cultivated in > India ! > Thank you. > Saroj Kasaju > > But the Prashant ji's posted plant is wild.- from me > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 at 14:04 > Subject: Piper cubeba in FOI > To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> > Cc: Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com>, Prashant awale <pkaw...@gmail.com> > > > Images of Piper cubeba in FOI by Prashant ji may be of some other > species as *Piper cubeba *L.fil. is not found in India as per Catalogue > of Life > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/e021fdfaa50c5f0d3f7c24e4316ecd9b> > ; > Can it be *Piper khasianum *C.DC. (syn: *Piper curtistipes* C.DC.) as per > GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4191405> Specimen > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F390665.jpg> > ? > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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