Thanks, Tabish ji. Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.
On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:55, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Although Piper peepuloides is found in Khasi hills, its flower spikes look > very different. See a sketch from a paper. > Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:27 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this image: >> Piper peepulloides. >> PLM >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:47, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> >>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tailed%20Pepper.html >>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FTailed%2520Pepper.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEc3biXnckmTsWt_Ghj3_NakW72LA> >>> - >>> from me >>> FoI says it is introduced ! >>> Piper cubeba - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Piper_cubeba >>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiwppO-0tPpAhVXIbcAHTqyBY4QFjACegQIDBAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPiper_cubeba&usg=AOvVaw3aps_Kp2EXKnNei7VQi4R2> >>> Piper cubeba L. fil. | Species | India Biodiversity >>> Portalindiabiodiversity.org › species › show >>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiwppO-0tPpAhVXIbcAHTqyBY4QFjADegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Findiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F230716&usg=AOvVaw0UL2j2FlQZ2no0gy0VS3G-> >>> Thank you. >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> Could be something else. But it doesn't look like Piper khasianum >>> because in P. khasianum leaves are 6-10 cm long, and flower spikes are much >>> shorter, 2-3 cm. In Prashant's plant the spikes look as long as the leaves. >>> Tabish >>> >>> It is not seen anywhere in the following publications on Piper Species >>> in India: >>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India >>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.289.2.9> - >>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017 >>> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the >>> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45 >>> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of >>> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri >>> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper >>> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present >>> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species >>> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper >>> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number >>> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller >>> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran >>> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), >>> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some >>> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman >>> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal >>> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. >>> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that >>> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A >>> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations >>> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature. >>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II >>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - >>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018 >>> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from >>> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are >>> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The >>> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five >>> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes >>> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with >>> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of >>> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused >>> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to >>> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. rhytidocarpum*. >>> Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are recorded for three >>> species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* P. pothoides*. - from >>> me >>> >>> Are this links reliable? >>> Shital Chini - Cubeb >>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj96sOt4tPpAhVtxzgGHZi5CMIQFjAGegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdir.indiamart.com%2Fimpcat%2Fcubeb.html&usg=AOvVaw12vRZ8JfRg9BKRGzYPbgte> >>> Piper Cubeba >>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj96sOt4tPpAhVtxzgGHZi5CMIQFjAIegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motherherbs.com%2Fpiper-cubeba.html&usg=AOvVaw16PA_6JHZcv668xs_hlWMz> >>> By the way can we rely on IBP where it is mentioned? >>> http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=1672 >>> Thank you. >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> Reliable document on published documents I have given you - from me >>> >>> Just my opinion as found in the Net ! Basically I have not much >>> knowledge about >>> Indian flora distribution ! But many sources says it is cultivated in >>> India ! >>> Thank you. >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> But the Prashant ji's posted plant is wild.- from me >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 at 14:04 >>> Subject: Piper cubeba in FOI >>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>> Cc: Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com>, Prashant awale <pkaw...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> Images of Piper cubeba in FOI by Prashant ji may be of some other >>> species as *Piper cubeba *L.fil. is not found in India as per Catalogue >>> of Life >>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/e021fdfaa50c5f0d3f7c24e4316ecd9b> >>> ; >>> Can it be *Piper khasianum *C.DC. 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