Thanks, Tabish ji. There has been a lot of confusion about the long spike of male plants in *Piper peepulloides*. As the id comes from Dr. Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee, there should not be any doubt about it. As per his recent publication, *Nomenclatural notes on Piper (Piperaceae) from India III <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.441.3.3>(2020)* Abstract: This paper, in continuation of earlier ones (Mukherjee 2017, 2018), deals with the taxonomic studies of the genus *Piper *Linnaeus (Piperaceae) from India. It includes information on the identity, typification and nomenclature of ten additional species. The results report four new names: *Piper courtallensis *P. K. Mukh. *nom. nov., Piper kurgianum* P. K. Mukh. *nom.nov, Piper lamarckianum *P. K. Mukh. *nom. nov*., and *Piper travancorianum *P. K. Mukh. *nom. nov.* It also deals with the lectotypification and nomenclature of *P. argyrophyllum *Miquel, *P. attenuatum* Miquel and *P. talbotii *C. de Candolle in addition to supersession of previous lectotypification with new ones for *P. leptostachyum *Miquel and *P. peepuloides *Roxburgh. Additionally, new synonyms are added for *P. obtusistigmum *C.de Candolle and* P. talbotii *C. de Candolle.* Identities of P. peepuloides Roxburgh, P. mullesua Don and P. rhytidocarpum J. D. Hooker as distinct species are reasserted.* An overall evaluation of their identity and nomenclature including synonyms is included. Necessary explanatory notes are added for each of the species which are dealt alphabetically.
He has considered Suwanpakhdee's 2016 publication in this. It says *Piper mullesua *is considered here as distinct from *P. peepuloides *because it differs in the characters of the female spikes. These are long pedicelled and spherical to ovoid in *P. mullesua *and subsessile and cylindrical in *P. peepuloides.* On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 22:29, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com> wrote: > This 2016 paper treats Piper mullesua Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don (1825, p. 20) as > synonym of Piper peepuloides Roxb. > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/307099058_Taxonomic_notes_on_the_genus_Piper_Piperaceae > The description of *Piper mullesua *at FOC > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200005578> > mentions flowers are bisexual and spikes are almost spherical. Notes in the > FOC description also talk about that species being wrongly described as > having long male inflorescence. > My understanding from all this is that *Piper peepuloides* has small > spikes which are bisexual. > Any clarification is welcome. > Tabish > > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:33 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On further checking, I found that the answer was rightly placed. >> It should be a male plant as per GBIF >> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4185920>- Specimen >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fsweetgum.nybg.org%2Fimages3%2F3613%2F499%2F04152202.jpg> >> >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 21:20, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Tabish ji. >>> Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread. >>> >>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:25, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this post: >>>> Piper peepulloides. >>>> PLM >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 12:46 >>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:351111] Fwd: Piper Var. >>>> To: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Sir, any help in this id? >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: JM Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 at 20:03 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:351111] Fwd: Piper Var. >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, 13 February 2009 17:03:11 UTC+5:30, Prashant awale wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>> >>>>> This one is a "Piper" Var (Piperaceae Family) photographed at "Sohra >>>>> Forest- Meghalaya". My guess is Piper Cubeba??. 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