CVS _ Help

2003-04-03 Thread Aju
Hi,

I am pretty new to CVS and Linux. I need some help to
figure out something.

I have been digging into documentation and have
installed CVS on a Red Hat Linux 7.3 machine. I have
also managed to connect to the CVS Repsoitory on the
server using a WinCVS client.

At present, I have created a single user 'cvs' which
can connect to the server. However, I would want
multiple users to connect to the CVS repository. What
do I do to achieve this?

Also, I would like some of the folders in the CVS
repository to be unavailable to some of these users. I
understand that this has something to do with groups
and permissions to be set up on the Linux box, but
since I am new to this, I am not able to figure it
out.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Warm Regards
Aju





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Re: how to install cvs server in redhat 8.0?

2003-04-03 Thread Larry Jones
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> 
> I am a newbie of cvs.  I tried 2 days setting up a cvs server using :pserver but
> failed.
> 
> Does anyone know a good step-by-step tutorial?  I'm running redhat 8.0.  I
> googled but couldn't find good one.  

Follow the directions in the manual (www.cvshome.org).  If you still
have problems, follow the guidance in the Troubleshooting section and
post here if you need more help.

-Larry Jones

Hey Doc, for 10 bucks I'll make sure you see those kids in the
waiting room again real soon! -- Calvin


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how to install cvs server in redhat 8.0?

2003-04-03 Thread gejun
Hi,

I am a newbie of cvs.  I tried 2 days setting up a cvs server using :pserver but
failed.

Does anyone know a good step-by-step tutorial?  I'm running redhat 8.0.  I
googled but couldn't find good one.  

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Any suggestion or help will be greatlly appreciated.



Jun Ge



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RE: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!

2003-04-03 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 15:39:06 (-0800), Christian Bryant wrote: ]
> Subject: RE: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!
>
> Creating a new tool isn't redundant if it offers new features, and in this
> case I am going to be addressing a couple issues.

Perhaps not, but the point is to understand what might be missing from
existing tools and to see if maybe those same features might better be
included in existing tools or if a new tool is needed to accomodate
them.

This is particularly important when it comes to user interfaces since
enhancing existing interfaces has the potential to help one heck of a
lot more people.

> 1. I deal with certification for safety-related products.  IEC 61508
> requires pretty strict software lifecycle practices.  Among those are a
> tight SCM process and change tracking (bugs).  ASMAI takes its own bug
> handler and integrates CVS to create a base SCM system.
> 
> 2. ASMAI is being designed per IEEE 12207 and IEC 61508.  This means that a
> project being audited for its tools usage can point to ASMAI and state that
> the tool is compliant to these standards, as well as beig coded per MISRA C
> for safety.

Hmmm... I wish you'd said those things in this forum in the first place.

(As for MISRA C, well good luck!  Those idiots (hope you're not one of
them!) should have looked a little further outside their own field --
there are lots better languages to develop safety critical code in, and
even some that look and feel enough like C to give good C programmers a
head start.  Yes I know they recommend not using C wherever possible,
but just the same)

-- 
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RE: Info-cvs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 5

2003-04-03 Thread Matthew Herrmann
To force a Makefile file to be uncommitable, but still stay more-or-less
up-to-date with the current branch, you could put this in your build script:

"
cp Makefile Makefile_
cvs up -C -rANY_FIXED_TAG Makefile
cp Makefile_ Makefile
rm Makefile_
"

Then if anyone tries to commit changes to the file, they will get an error
since they are committing to a non-sticky tag.

And of course, never use "cvs tag" to tag versions if you are using this
technique (use "cvs rtag" instead).

HTH

Matthew Herrmann
--
VB6/SQL/Java/CVS Consultancy
Far Edge Technology
http://www.faredge.com.au/

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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:28:08 -0800
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Wade Williams wrote:
> I can't imagine I'm the only developer that makes local changes to try
> something out, but wants to be sure those changes do not end up in the
> repository.

You're not the only developer that has had to deal with a problem like this.
  I agree with others who have said that allowing CVS to circumvent its own
controls is not a wise idea.

My advice is to be more specific when you commit.  You don't need to commit
from the top-level of your project.  You likely already know where you made
changes you do want to commit.  If you've arranged your tree well, this
configuration file should be somewhere else.  In this case, commit closer to
the real changes and CVS won't try to also commit your configuration
changes.

If you happen to make changes in the same place as the configuration file,
then commit files one by one.

--
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RE: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!

2003-04-03 Thread Christian Bryant
I myself was weaned on Emacs.  As far as CVS interfaces go, I always run my
CVS session from my shell.

Creating a new tool isn't redundant if it offers new features, and in this
case I am going to be addressing a couple issues.

1. I deal with certification for safety-related products.  IEC 61508
requires pretty strict software lifecycle practices.  Among those are a
tight SCM process and change tracking (bugs).  ASMAI takes its own bug
handler and integrates CVS to create a base SCM system.

2. ASMAI is being designed per IEEE 12207 and IEC 61508.  This means that a
project being audited for its tools usage can point to ASMAI and state that
the tool is compliant to these standards, as well as beig coded per MISRA C
for safety.

3. It's fun to try new things!  I would love it if someone had created a
tool that blended bug tracking, version management, build generation and
project requirements all together with a simple shell interface.  Why not?
Stallman wasn't crazy when he started Emacs, but I know a lot of people that
said he was stupid for bothering ; )

Take care.

-Original Message-
From: Kaz Kylheku [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:08 PM
To: CVS-II Discussion Mailing List
Cc: Christian Bryant
Subject: Re: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!


On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Greg A. Woods wrote:

> [ On Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 11:00:59 (-0800), Christian Bryant wrote:
]
> > Subject: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!
> >
> > 
> > http://asmai.sourceforge.net/
> > 
> > Please take a look and email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are
interested.
> > We are trying to get the project underway and a version out by the end
of
> > the year.
> 
> Why don't y'all just learn to use Emacs and its PCL-CVS front-end to CVS?
> 
> Seriously.

And if you want stupid dialog, then use M-x doctor. ;)



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Re: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!

2003-04-03 Thread Kaz Kylheku
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Greg A. Woods wrote:

> [ On Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 11:00:59 (-0800), Christian Bryant wrote: ]
> > Subject: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!
> >
> > 
> > http://asmai.sourceforge.net/
> > 
> > Please take a look and email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested.
> > We are trying to get the project underway and a version out by the end of
> > the year.
> 
> Why don't y'all just learn to use Emacs and its PCL-CVS front-end to CVS?
> 
> Seriously.

And if you want stupid dialog, then use M-x doctor. ;)



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RE: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!

2003-04-03 Thread Mike Ayers

> From: Greg A. Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:41 PM
> [ On Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 11:00:59 (-0800), Christian 
> Bryant wrote: ]
> > Subject: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!
> >
> > 
> > http://asmai.sourceforge.net/
> > 
> > Please take a look and email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if 
> you are interested.
> > We are trying to get the project underway and a version out 
> by the end of
> > the year.
> 
> Why don't y'all just learn to use Emacs and its PCL-CVS 
> front-end to CVS?



Why don't you just learn to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to 
develop software the way you do?

Seriously.


/|/|ike


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Re: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!

2003-04-03 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 11:00:59 (-0800), Christian Bryant wrote: ]
> Subject: OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!
>
> 
> http://asmai.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Please take a look and email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested.
> We are trying to get the project underway and a version out by the end of
> the year.

Why don't y'all just learn to use Emacs and its PCL-CVS front-end to CVS?

Seriously.

Even if your fingers are programmed with VI keystrokes don't let that be
a deterrent to you -- Emacs has a perfectly usable VI emulation

Then if you find there's some feature you'd like that's not in PCL-CVS
it can maybe be added without too much fuss.

Using Emacs with PCL-CVS for coding and version control is, IMNSHO,
better than many of the so-called "integrated development environments"
I've seen out there over the years.

Using Emacs also means that your programmers are already trained to use
the same tools they can use in a GUI environment too -- Emacs works fine
in X11 and is easy for X11 users to use.

-- 
Greg A. Woods

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OpenSource CVS-related project Needs Developers!

2003-04-03 Thread Christian Bryant

http://asmai.sourceforge.net/

Please take a look and email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested.
We are trying to get the project underway and a version out by the end of
the year.

Thanks!



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RE: WinCVS in french

2003-04-03 Thread Mike Ayers

From: Samuel Blanchet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:20 PM

> I would like to know if WinCVS exist in french ???


Hello,

Please send only plain text messages to technical mailing lists.  No HTML or 
Rich Text, please.

I had a look at the WinCVS home page at http://wincvs.org and could not tell 
if there is a French version shipped.  I do know, however, that there are many French 
users of it.  I suggest you join the WinCVS mailing list (link is WAY at the bottom of 
the home page), and ask there.  They will know.


/|/|ike


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