Re: ssl "dyld: Library not loaded" with either cyrus-imap v2.3.7 *or* cvs-head
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi wes, looks like the problem is (related to?) the: --with-openssl=PATH use OpenSSL from PATH my understanding was that PATH == ssl INSTALL path e.g., /usr/local/ssl looking in/at SMakefile, however, i note a reference to: SSL_CONFIG=/usr/local/lib pointing, obviously, to the LIB location ... that said, i replaced: --- --with-openssl=/usr/local/ssl +++ --with-openssl=/usr/local/ssl/lib and, now, i do NOT see the errors on launch. perhaps that should have been obvious ... alas, not 2 me :-/ anyway, yay. i think. now to see if 'everything else' is working. richard - -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X against HTML email, vCards / \ & micro$oft attachments [GPG] OpenMacNews at gmail dot com fingerprint: 50C9 1C46 2F8F DE42 2EDB D460 95F7 DDBD 3671 08C6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkT/rywACgkQlffdvTZxCMZCegCfRPo/NbcQ2dQLqU70CX1Dj/L1 +hQAoLddoWibaIXyPedPmmoz4+WSdbj5 =pQ2F -END PGP SIGNATURE- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: ssl "dyld: Library not loaded" with either cyrus-imap v2.3.7 *or* cvs-head
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wes, - -- On September 6, 2006 11:49:44 PM -0400 Wesley Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, now I'm frustrated. I knew I'd seen a problem that sounded > similar reported on the list before. Here's the reference: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu/ > msg29699.html > > Reading through the two again, I'm not sure if this is the same at > all. But at least I found the reference I was looking for. No mean > feat, that. heh, that was me ;-) that gmp-related issue i made go away. no, not (exactly) the same ... but part of the seemingly never-ending struggle (well, at least 4 me ...) to get cyrus to behave w/ ssl ... like i said ... been plaguing me for awhile. richard - -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X against HTML email, vCards / \ & micro$oft attachments [GPG] OpenMacNews at gmail dot com fingerprint: 50C9 1C46 2F8F DE42 2EDB D460 95F7 DDBD 3671 08C6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkT/makACgkQlffdvTZxCMa20ACfUrCSz2wpRZshfdQdX4cTpe0W S6wAnAuNUuPn1ptsT55YYPMnnnFNjpO0 =TzU5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: ssl "dyld: Library not loaded" with either cyrus-imap v2.3.7 *or* cvs-head
On 06 Sep 2006, at 23:00, OpenMacNews wrote: that said, every other app i've built that links/uses 'my' ssl libs is problem-free. OK, now I'm frustrated. I knew I'd seen a problem that sounded similar reported on the list before. Here's the reference: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu/ msg29699.html Reading through the two again, I'm not sure if this is the same at all. But at least I found the reference I was looking for. No mean feat, that. :wes Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: ssl "dyld: Library not loaded" with either cyrus-imap v2.3.7 *or* cvs-head
hi wes,
thx for the reply!
-- On September 6, 2006 10:50:21 PM -0400 Wesley Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On 06 Sep 2006, at 21:55, OpenMacNews wrote:
i've been fighting this for awhile; i've posted b4, with no 'bites'.
I've seen other reports on the list, including solutions. One common
one was to use the instructions here:
http://cyrus-imapd.darwinports.com/
yes, i've seen this ... and note simply:
--with-openssl=${prefix}
which i've done.
without it, the make fails to even fink & link the ssl libs into the
generated executables.
As I recall, another was to build your own openssl.
which i also have done ... that's my own instance in /usr/local/ssl
Frankly, this is
a pretty common problem on Mac OS X. There's a lot of open source
software that ships with the Mac that can't be used to build other
open source software.
true.
which is why i typically build my own from src ... as i'm attempting to
do tiwh cyrus, as well.
that said, every other app i've built that links/uses 'my' ssl libs is
problem-free.
just cyrus-imap that's having 'issues' atm :-/
cheers,
richard
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Re: ssl "dyld: Library not loaded" with either cyrus-imap v2.3.7 *or* cvs-head
On 06 Sep 2006, at 21:55, OpenMacNews wrote: i've been fighting this for awhile; i've posted b4, with no 'bites'. I've seen other reports on the list, including solutions. One common one was to use the instructions here: http://cyrus-imapd.darwinports.com/ As I recall, another was to build your own openssl. Frankly, this is a pretty common problem on Mac OS X. There's a lot of open source software that ships with the Mac that can't be used to build other open source software. :wes Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
ssl "dyld: Library not loaded" with either cyrus-imap v2.3.7 *or* cvs-head
i've been fighting this for awhile; i've posted b4, with no 'bites'. trying again ... i'm building Cyrus-IMAP on OSX 10.4.7. with EITHER v2.3.7 OR latest cvs-head, configured w/: setenv LDFLAGS "-L/usr/local/berkeley-db/lib -ldb -L/usr/local/cyrus-sasl/lib -lsasl2 -lresolv -L/usr/local/ssl/lib -lssl -lcrypto" setenv CPPFLAGS "-I/usr/local/berkeley-db/include -I/usr/local/cyrus-sasl/include -I/usr/local/ssl/include" ./configure \ --enable-static=no --enable-shared=yes \ --with-cyrus-user=cyrus_imap --with-cyrus-group=cyrus_imap \ --prefix=/usr/local/syrus-imap \ --with-bdb \ --with-bdb-libdir=/usr/local/berkeley-db/lib \ --with-bdb-incdir=/usr/local/berkeley-db/include \ --with-sasl=/usr/local/cyrus-sasl \ --with-openssl=/usr/local/ssl \ --with-perl=/usr/local/perl5/bin/perl \ --with-libwrap \ --with-auth=unix --without-krb \ --with-idle=idled \ --disable-gssapi --without-gss_impl \ --enable-listext \ --enable-server \ --enable-cyradm \ --disable-cmulocal \ --enable-murder \ --with-syslogfacility=LOCAL6 \ --enable-sieve \ --with-snmp=/usr/local/net-snmp \ --disable-nntp\ --with-com_err=yes subsequent: make depend make all make install are all, seemingly, w/o error, resulting in: otool -L /usr/local/cyrus-imap/libexec/imapd /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 88.1.6) /usr/local/berkeley-db/lib/libdb-4.3.dylib (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0) /usr/local/cyrus-sasl/lib/libsasl2.2.dylib (compatibility version 3.0.0, current version 3.22.0) /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 369.5.0) /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib (compatibility version 0.9.8, current version 0.9.8) /usr/local/ssl/lib/libcrypto.0.9.8.dylib (compatibility version 0.9.8, current version 0.9.8) /usr/lib/libwrap.7.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.6.0) /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) otool -L /usr/local/cyrus-imap/libexec/master /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 88.1.6) /usr/local/berkeley-db/lib/libdb-4.3.dylib (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0) /usr/local/cyrus-sasl/lib/libsasl2.2.dylib (compatibility version 3.0.0, current version 3.22.0) /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 369.5.0) /usr/local/ssl/lib/libcrypto.0.9.8.dylib (compatibility version 0.9.8, current version 0.9.8) /usr/local/net-snmp/lib/libnetsnmpmibs.9.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.1.0) /usr/local/net-snmp/lib/libnetsnmpagent.9.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.1.0) /usr/local/net-snmp/lib/libnetsnmphelpers.9.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.1.0) /usr/local/net-snmp/lib/libnetsnmp.9.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.1.0) /usr/lib/libwrap.7.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.6.0) /usr/local/perl_libs/privlib/darwin-thread-multi-2level/CORE/libperl.dylib (compatibility version 5.8.0, current version 5.8.8) /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib (compatibility version 0.9.8, current version 0.9.8) /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) when i attempt to start cyrus with: /usr/local/cyrus-imap/libexec/master \ -C /var/MailServer/Conf/Cyrus/imapd.conf \ -M /var/MailServer/Conf/Cyrus/cyrus.conf \ -p /var/MailServer/Process/cyrus_master.pid \ -D i see in console: dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/cyrus-imap//libexec/ctl_cyrusdb Reason: image not found dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/cyrus-imap//libexec/idled Reason: image not found dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/cyrus-imap//libexec/ctl_cyrusdb Reason: image not found dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/cyrus-imap//libexec/imapd Reason: image not found dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/cyrus-imap//libexec/lmtpd Reason: image not found dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/cyrus-imap//libexec/lmtpd Reason: image not found dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/cyrus-imap//libexec/imapd
Re: sieve doesn't work [auf Viren überprüft]
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: There will only be connections from localhost (as You can see in my config, sieve only listens to localhost) since if there will ever be a websieve or the like, it's going to run on the same machine. In you first post I can't see information about "sasl" and/or "STARTTLS" You are absolutely right, I do not get any sasl-methods and/or STARTTLS. I did use to get STARTTLS until I disabled it via the certificate-line. This just brings up more questions - how to I even enable sasl for sieve? Or is it enabled but not announced? From configuring postfix I know You can configure the MTA to only announce SASL after STARTTLS but this probably isn't the case here? If I can provide any more information, please let me know. Nobody any ideas? Am I the only one on debian sarge who's sieve doesn't offer SASL login w/o TLS and sieve_sasl_minimum_layer=0? Or is the option maybe called sasl_minimum_layer_sieve? Is there any documentation on the sasl-options in imapd.conf? I read the man pages for timsieved, cyrmaster and imapd.conf but didn't find anything useful. I run Cyrus on Debain Sarge. I use the Debian packages for the sasl libraries and modules, but I compile cyrus-imapd from source. The debian packages I have installed are: ii libsasl2 2.1.19-1.5sarg Authentication abstraction library ii libsasl2-dev 2.1.19-1.5sarg Development files for authentication abstrac ii libsasl2-modul 2.1.19-1.5sarg Pluggable Authentication Modules for SASL ii sasl2-bin 2.1.19-1.5sarg Programs for manipulating the SASL users dat In my /etc/imapd.conf file, I have the following sasl-related settings: allowplaintext: 1 sasl_mech_list: PLAIN sasl_minimum_layer: 0 sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd Andy Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: How to remove IOERROR sieve log lines?
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Nikola Milutinovic wrote: Hi all. I have noticed these log lines and I'd like to get rid of them: Sep 1 00:27:24 mail lmtpunix[737]: IOERROR: fstating sieve script /var/lib/sieve/v/v^gogoljev/defaultbc: No such file or directory Sep 1 00:46:24 mail lmtpunix[910]: IOERROR: fstating sieve script /var/lib/sieve/v/v^gogoljev/defaultbc: No such file or directory I know what they are, the user has no sieve scripts and consequently no default script. Can this be turned off? Most of my users do not have Sieve scripts. Modify your syslog.conf so that it doesn't log cyrus messages at the "debug" level. You probably want everything at log level "info" and higher. Andy Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Usernames with "+" in it
That will likely prove to be far more trouble than it's worth. Both Cyrus and most Unix MTA's treat + as a seperator/extender, so info+example.com == info (but tells cyrus to try to file it into the example.com folder if permissions allow) It's certainly possible to login as that user, the problem comes in delivery, you'll need to change or disable the + separator in your MTA and in Cyrus. Then you can have usernames with + in them. Better though to just follow the 'de facto' standards, use .'s as separators in usernames. --On September 6, 2006 3:51:01 PM +0200 Sven Lepiorz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, we have to take over all mailboxes from an other provider to our own server. The login names on the old provider is nearly the full email address but with a "+" instead of "@", i.e. info+example.com. How can i deliver mail to such a user? Or is it possible to login with the username info+example.com but act as an other user? Sven Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html -- "Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors into trouble of all kinds." -- Samuel Butler Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Usernames with "+" in it
Hi, we have to take over all mailboxes from an other provider to our own server. The login names on the old provider is nearly the full email address but with a "+" instead of "@", i.e. info+example.com. How can i deliver mail to such a user? Or is it possible to login with the username info+example.com but act as an other user? Sven Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
compile 2.2.12 with pts/ldap [auf Viren überpr üft]
Hi! I compiled 2.2.12 successfully before without ldap/pts (on AIX): --- 1. - export CC=gcc export CFLAGS="-O2" export CXXFLAGS="-O2" export MAKE=gmake export PATH=$PATH:/usr/vac/bin ./configure \ --prefix=/opt/mail \ --with-cyrus-prefix=/opt/mail/cyrus \ --with-service-path=/opt/mail/cyrus \ --libdir=/opt/freeware/lib \ --includedir=/opt/freeware/include \ --mandir=/opt/freeware/man \ --with-bdb-libdir=/opt/freeware/lib \ --with-bdb-incdir=/opt/freeware/include \ --with-sasl=/opt/freeware/lib \ --with-openssl=/opt/freeware \ --with-idle=idled --- 1. - Now I want to add ldap/pts. ldap*.h is in /opt/freeware/include. --- 2. - export CC=gcc export CFLAGS="-O2" export CXXFLAGS="-O2" export MAKE=gmake export PATH=$PATH:/usr/vac/bin ./configure \ --prefix=/opt/mail \ --with-cyrus-prefix=/opt/mail/cyrus \ --with-service-path=/opt/mail/cyrus \ --libdir=/opt/freeware/lib \ --includedir=/opt/freeware/include \ --mandir=/opt/freeware/man \ --with-bdb-libdir=/opt/freeware/lib \ --with-bdb-incdir=/opt/freeware/include \ --with-sasl=/opt/freeware/lib \ --with-openssl=/opt/freeware \ --with-idle=idled \ --with-ldap=/opt/freeware \ --with-pts=ldap \ --with-auth=pts --- 2. - It does not compile. --- make - ### Making all in /SOURCE/mail/cyrus-imapd-2.2.12/ptclient gmake[1]: Entering directory `/SOURCE/mail/cyrus-imapd-2.2.12/ptclient' gcc -c -I.. -I./../imap -I./../lib -I../et -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 ptexpire.c gcc -L/opt/freeware/lib -L/opt/freeware/lib -o ptexpire ptexpire.o ../imap/mutex_fake.o ../imap/cli_fatal.o ../imap/libimap.a ../lib/libcyrus.a ../lib/libcyrus_min.a -L/opt/freeware/lib/lib -lsasl2 -L/opt/freeware/lib/lib -lsasl2-L/opt/freeware/lib -ldb-4.2 -lssl -lcrypto ../et/libcom_err.a gcc -c -I.. -I./../imap -I./../lib -I../et -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 ptloader.c gcc -c -I.. -I./../imap -I./../lib -I../et -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include -I/opt/freeware/include/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 ldap.c ldap.c: In function `ptsmodule_make_authstate_attribute': ldap.c:909: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast ldap.c: In function `ptsmodule_make_authstate_filter': ldap.c:1052: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gcc -L/opt/freeware/lib -L/opt/freeware/lib -o ptloader ptloader.o ldap.o ../imap/mutex_fake.o ../master/service-thread.o -L/opt/freeware/lib -L/opt/freeware/include/lib ../imap/libimap.a ../lib/libcyrus.a ../lib/libcyrus_min.a -L/opt/freeware/lib/lib -lsasl2 -L/opt/freeware/lib/lib -lsasl2-L/opt/freeware/lib -ldb-4.2 -lssl -lcrypto ../et/libcom_err.a ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_initialize ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_set_option ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_unbind ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: ber_pvt_opt_on ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_get_option ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_err2string ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_simple_bind_s ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_start_tls_s ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_whoami_s ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ber_bvfree ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ber_free ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_memfree ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_value_free ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_msgfree ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_search_st ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_first_entry ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_first_attribute ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_get_values ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_next_attribute ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_count_entries ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .ldap_next_entry ld: 0711-345 Use the -bloadmap or -bnoquiet option to obtain more information. collect2: ld returned 8 exit status gmake[1]: *** [ptloader] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/SOURCE/mail/cyrus-imapd-2.2.12/ptclient' gmake: *** [all] Error 1 --- make - What is missing? Hans Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: sieve doesn't work [auf Viren überprüft]
On 2006-09-05 at 19:05 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: > Nobody any ideas? Am I the only one on debian sarge who's sieve doesn't > offer SASL login w/o TLS and sieve_sasl_minimum_layer=0? I'm not using Debian so can only offer generic advice and help. That's why I shut up before. When reading Andrew Morgan's post I found that the sasl modules had been split off, which made me realise just how different things are in Debian. You set allowplaintext true, you define the mechanisms, you've lowered sieve_sasl_minimum_layer, it should be fine. Does any of that change what you see when you telnet to port 2000? What happens if you use "sieve" instead of "2000" on the telnet command-line? Does it still connect? If not, /etc/services needs updating and any lookup caches (nscd?) should be flushed. > Or is the option maybe called sasl_minimum_layer_sieve? No; the snippet of configuration which I provided was a cut&paste of working config I set for the internal IMAP service at work; unless support for _ is version-dependent, it should be there. I used service-specific settings because when I tried using a different imapd.conf via a "-C" option in the service entry in cyrus.conf, and had that config @include the main config then override specific values, timsieved would crash. I think it was bus errors, but I forget. So I stuck to _. > Is there any documentation on the sasl-options in imapd.conf? Yes. In the man-page for imapd.conf are various items such as sasl_minimum_layer, whilst the documentation for the cyrus-sasl package should include html/options.html, provided that the packaging for your OS doesn't strip documentation. You might want to look at more of the documentation from the cyrus-sasl package instead of cyrus-imapd. Any of the SASL options can be set directly in imapd.conf by prefixing "sasl_" to the option name. -- "Everything has three factors: politics, money, and the right way to do it. In that order." -- Gary Donahue Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: To list admins: Reply-to address
Just for the sake of completeness: Kjetil made me aware of the fact, that cyrus mailman does indeed put in List-Post header. No idea how I could have overseen that while searching for it. If thunderbird would have the needed functionality, it could provide the user with a "List Reply" Button. We will see this behavior in TB in version 3.0 which contains base changes allowing an extention to provide that feature. But these changes have been ported back to TB 1.5 unofficially: http://open.nit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension For example a SuSE packager provides patched TB packages for SuSE 10.0 and SuSE 10.1: http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/08/thunderbird-with-reply-to-list.html Thanks and best, Daniel Daniel Eckl wrote: > Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 14:14 +0200, Daniel Eckl wrote: >>> Rudy Gevaert wrote: > yes, this is desired. read > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html How do you reply to list in thunderbird? >> I had a look, it seems there is no support for it, not even an >> extension. >> >>> Well, just assumed that thunderbird would be able to make use of that, >>> you would need a List-Reply: header field added from the mailing list >>> system. >> what is "List-Reply"? RFC 2369 specifies List-Post. >> >>> But that's considered harmful as well. >>> http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.txt >> I don't see any mention of "List-Reply" in the above text. it talks >> about the "Reply to list" function. >> >>> So there is no solution which satisfies the lazy ones as well as the >>> paranoid ones. No, I will neither say to which group I belong nor where >>> you belong to. *g* >> in a MUA which has "reply to list" conveniently available (e.g. Ctrl+L >> in Evolution, "f" in Gnus, "g" in Mutt), there is no conflict between >> being lazy and paranoid. >> > > Correct, I think List-Post is the corresponding header to the List-Reply > function I am speaking of. I burred too much with the term "List-Reply: > header field". Thanks for clarification. > > But if you don't see the term list-reply in > http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.txt > then your browser search function is seriously broken. > > A dedicated button for List Reply is a very elegant version of my wish > of making that configurable. > But to make this usable at all, cyrus mailman has to include this header > field, so a list-reply function knows what's the adress of the list and > which adresses are persons which are on To: line, too. > > At the moment, the MUA can support whatever it wants, it cannot know > what's the list address. > > Best, > Daniel > > Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus > Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu > List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
