Re: shared \seen flags on shared folders

[Gavin McCullagh]

Hi,

sorry for the very late reply.

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Wesley Craig wrote:

> On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:17, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> >I gather courier shares the \seen flag between users sharing a
> >folder.  Is it possible to do this on cyrus?
> 
> I believe "sharedseen" does what you're looking for.  See "man cyradm":

>   "sharedseen"
>Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages rather than
>a per-user \Seen flag.  The ’s’ right in the mailbox ACL still
>controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.

Brilliant, thanks.  I hadn't noticed that.

> The Kolab client may have direct support for managing sharedseen, so
> you might take a look at that, as well.

It has a sufficiently new cyradm to support sharedseen, but it doesn't seem
to have a web-based way to do this.  

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Admin API? [Was: Re: shared \seen flags on shared folders]

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 10:59 +0100, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> Hi,
> sorry for the very late reply.
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Wesley Craig wrote:
> > On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:17, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> > >I gather courier shares the \seen flag between users sharing a
> > >folder.  Is it possible to do this on cyrus?
> > I believe "sharedseen" does what you're looking for.  See "man cyradm":
> > "sharedseen"
> >Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages rather 
> > than
> >a per-user \Seen flag.  The ’s’ right in the mailbox ACL 
> > still
> >controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.
> Brilliant, thanks.  I hadn't noticed that.
> > The Kolab client may have direct support for managing sharedseen, so
> > you might take a look at that, as well.
> It has a sufficiently new cyradm to support sharedseen, but it doesn't seem
> to have a web-based way to do this.  

This is a constant pain (cyradm isn't very help-desk friendly).

Does anyone know of a, even abandoned, project to implement the cyradm
capabilities as a network API?  SOAP, XML-RPC, REST, whatever  It
would be really nice to be able to manage a Cyrus server via an API (and
make building clients for that task way easier).
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Re: shared \seen flags on shared folders

[André Schild]

Adam Tauno Williams schrieb:

On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 10:59 +0100, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
  

Hi,
sorry for the very late reply.
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Wesley Craig wrote:


On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:17, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
  

I gather courier shares the \seen flag between users sharing a
folder.  Is it possible to do this on cyrus?


I believe "sharedseen" does what you're looking for.  See "man cyradm":
"sharedseen"
   Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages rather than
   a per-user \Seen flag.  The ’s’ right in the mailbox ACL still
   controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.
  

Brilliant, thanks.  I hadn't noticed that.


The Kolab client may have direct support for managing sharedseen, so
you might take a look at that, as well.
  

It has a sufficiently new cyradm to support sharedseen, but it doesn't seem
to have a web-based way to do this.  



This is a constant pain (cyradm isn't very help-desk friendly).

Does anyone know of a, even abandoned, project to implement the cyradm
capabilities as a network API?  SOAP, XML-RPC, REST, whatever  It
would be really nice to be able to manage a Cyrus server via an API (and
make building clients for that task way easier).
  


I started a small project a few years ago for this in java...

https://sourceforge.net/projects/jcyrusapi/

It still does what we need (And we don't needed much at that time...)

additionally a search on SF returns a list:

https://sourceforge.net/search/?words=cyrus&type_of_search=soft&words=cyrus&search=Search



André





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Re: Admin API? [Was: Re: shared \seen flags on shared folders]

[OBATA Akio]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:47:42 +0900, Adam Tauno Williams 
 wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 10:59 +0100, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
>> Hi,
>> sorry for the very late reply.
>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Wesley Craig wrote:
>> > On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:17, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
>> > >I gather courier shares the \seen flag between users sharing a
>> > >folder.  Is it possible to do this on cyrus?
>> > I believe "sharedseen" does what you're looking for.  See "man cyradm":
>> >"sharedseen"
>> >Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages rather 
>> > than
>> >a per-user \Seen flag.  The ?s? right in the mailbox ACL 
>> > still
>> >controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.
>> Brilliant, thanks.  I hadn't noticed that.
>> > The Kolab client may have direct support for managing sharedseen, so
>> > you might take a look at that, as well.
>> It has a sufficiently new cyradm to support sharedseen, but it doesn't seem
>> to have a web-based way to do this.
>
> This is a constant pain (cyradm isn't very help-desk friendly).
>
> Does anyone know of a, even abandoned, project to implement the cyradm
> capabilities as a network API?  SOAP, XML-RPC, REST, whatever  It
> would be really nice to be able to manage a Cyrus server via an API (and
> make building clients for that task way easier).

I believe the protocol is IMAP.
(cyradm is just a IMAP client focused to manage cyrus IMAP Server).

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Re: Admin API? [Was: Re: shared \seen flags on shared folders]

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 14:58 +0200, André Schild wrote:
> >> It has a sufficiently new cyradm to support sharedseen, but it doesn't seem
> >> to have a web-based way to do this.  
> > This is a constant pain (cyradm isn't very help-desk friendly).
> > Does anyone know of a, even abandoned, project to implement the cyradm
> > capabilities as a network API?  SOAP, XML-RPC, REST, whatever  It
> > would be really nice to be able to manage a Cyrus server via an API (and
> > make building clients for that task way easier).
> I started a small project a few years ago for this in java...
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jcyrusapi/
> It still does what we need (And we don't needed much at that time...)

Interesting,  I'll probably poke at it.

> additionally a search on SF returns a list:
> https://sourceforge.net/search/?words=cyrus&type_of_search=soft&words=cyrus&search=Search

Yep; most of which are completely worthless.  And so many go straight to
building a WebUI that ends up tied into a myriad other things [LDAP,
MySQL, etc...] which ends up not being very general-purpose.


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Re: Admin API? [Was: Re: shared \seen flags on shared folders]

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 22:02 +0900, OBATA Akio wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:47:42 +0900, Adam Tauno Williams 
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 10:59 +0100, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> sorry for the very late reply.
> >> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Wesley Craig wrote:
> >> > On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:17, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> >> > >I gather courier shares the \seen flag between users sharing a
> >> > >folder.  Is it possible to do this on cyrus?
> >> > I believe "sharedseen" does what you're looking for.  See "man cyradm":
> >> >  "sharedseen"
> >> >Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages rather 
> >> > than
> >> >a per-user \Seen flag.  The ?s? right in the mailbox ACL 
> >> > still
> >> >controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.
> >> Brilliant, thanks.  I hadn't noticed that.
> >> > The Kolab client may have direct support for managing sharedseen, so
> >> > you might take a look at that, as well.
> >> It has a sufficiently new cyradm to support sharedseen, but it doesn't seem
> >> to have a web-based way to do this.
> > This is a constant pain (cyradm isn't very help-desk friendly).
> > Does anyone know of a, even abandoned, project to implement the cyradm
> > capabilities as a network API?  SOAP, XML-RPC, REST, whatever  It
> > would be really nice to be able to manage a Cyrus server via an API (and
> > make building clients for that task way easier).
> I believe the protocol is IMAP.
> (cyradm is just a IMAP client focused to manage cyrus IMAP Server).

Understood; but that doesn't really change the question.

mybinding.mailboxInfo(mailbox), just like "cyradm> info mailbox", is
much more approachable than...

17 GETANNOTATION user.adam.fred "*" "value.shared"
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/duplicatedeliver" ("value.shared" "false")
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/sharedseen" ("value.shared" "false")
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/condstore" ("value.shared" "false")
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/pop3newuidl" ("value.shared" "true")
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/lastpop" ("value.shared" " ")
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/lastupdate" ("value.shared" " 2-Sep-2010
09:17:54 -0400")
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/size" ("value.shared" "0")
* ANNOTATION "user.adam.fred"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/partition" ("value.shared" "default")
17 OK Complete


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Action on move to folder

[Julien Vehent]

Hello cyrus folks,

I would like to find a solution to easily feed dspam, and I was 
wondering if there would be an elegant way to trigger an action when a 
message is moved to a specific folder. ie:

move message 'm' to folder 'spam' triggers 'send m to 
s...@mydomain.net' (or even better, launch an external program with 'm' 
as an argument).

Can imapd do that ? Sieve maybe ?


Thanks,

Julien


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Re: Action on move to folder

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 22:17 +0200, Julien Vehent wrote:
> Hello cyrus folks,
> I would like to find a solution to easily feed dspam, and I was 
> wondering if there would be an elegant way to trigger an action when a 
> message is moved to a specific folder. ie:
> move message 'm' to folder 'spam' triggers 'send m to 
> s...@mydomain.net' (or even better, launch an external program with 'm' 
> as an argument).
> Can imapd do that ? Sieve maybe ?

I haven't found a way.  

It would be great; we use RabbitAMQ extensively and I've looked for a
way to *reliably* pop a message append-to-folder-XYZ into the queue.
You can scrape the logs or fad the filesystem folder, but neither ends
up being terribly *reliable*.

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